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wiring up of an electric cooker



 
 
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Old 30-01-2007, 12:57 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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New build property with a designated cooker bay with its own designated
electric cooker socket, with a little vent extraction thing in the ceiling
above it, (no gas allowed/supplied in this property), and on the other side
of the kitchen is the designated fridge/freezer bay, again with its own
electricity socket.

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot, and
the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the fridge freezer
is supposed to go?

Only reason i ask is the open plan property i want to put the cooker 2
metres further away from the living area than where they intended it to go.

cheers, sonny.


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Old 30-01-2007, 01:14 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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stepson wrote:

New build property with a designated cooker bay with its own designated
electric cooker socket, with a little vent extraction thing in the ceiling
above it, (no gas allowed/supplied in this property), and on the other side
of the kitchen is the designated fridge/freezer bay, again with its own
electricity socket.


Is non-bay connection cooker/refrigerator non-grounded
connection point? Is vent shaft extraction vertical thing?

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot, and
the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the fridge freezer
is supposed to go?


Standard connection point circuit breaker
manufacturer-recommended splice?

Only reason i ask is the open plan property i want to put the cooker 2
metres further away from the living area than where they intended it to go.


Length of conduit run greater than property line covenant
or local code restriction? Conduit run meets or exceeds
recommended diameter for outlet max. amperage?
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Old 30-01-2007, 01:53 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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A few tough questions, need to do my homework on that.

If its any help, both appliances are linked to the trip switch fuse box in
the hall (named on the trip switches) and its a new build propeerty built to
a high safety spec, they have a tiny little ventilator thing in the ceiling
just a little plastic trim on show, about 4 by 4 (inch). The ceiling is
horizontal but theres someone in the flat above so i dont know where the
vent goes from there, sideways out of the wall, who knows.. havent moved in
yet.

sonny


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stepson wrote:

New build property with a designated cooker bay with its own designated
electric cooker socket, with a little vent extraction thing in the
ceiling
above it, (no gas allowed/supplied in this property), and on the other
side
of the kitchen is the designated fridge/freezer bay, again with its own
electricity socket.


Is non-bay connection cooker/refrigerator non-grounded
connection point? Is vent shaft extraction vertical thing?

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot, and
the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the fridge
freezer
is supposed to go?


Standard connection point circuit breaker
manufacturer-recommended splice?

Only reason i ask is the open plan property i want to put the cooker 2
metres further away from the living area than where they intended it to
go.


Length of conduit run greater than property line covenant
or local code restriction? Conduit run meets or exceeds
recommended diameter for outlet max. amperage?



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Old 30-01-2007, 02:07 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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stepson wrote:

A few tough questions, need to do my homework on that.

If its any help, both appliances are linked to the trip switch fuse box in
the hall (named on the trip switches) and its a new build propeerty built to
a high safety spec, they have a tiny little ventilator thing in the ceiling
just a little plastic trim on show, about 4 by 4 (inch). The ceiling is
horizontal but theres someone in the flat above so i dont know where the
vent goes from there, sideways out of the wall, who knows.. havent moved in
yet.



I don't know where you are, but around here the fridge and the stove run on
different voltage. Fridges plug into a 120V outlet but stoves run on 220
V. If it is a rental property you had best check with the management about
running a 220 line. I doubt they will go for it.
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Old 30-01-2007, 02:26 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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stepson wrote:

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot,
and the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the
fridge freezer is supposed to go?


Since the electric cooktop plug-in is probably a 240v, it will be mighty
exciting to see the refrigerator compressor go POOF. And you amy have some
real trouble trying to run the range on 120v.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com



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Old 30-01-2007, 02:49 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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stepson wrote:

A few tough questions, need to do my homework on that.


When you do, explain it back to me. :-)
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Old 30-01-2007, 07:12 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Steve Wertz electrified us with:

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:14:10 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:

Is non-bay connection cooker/refrigerator non-grounded
connection point? Is vent shaft extraction vertical thing?
...
Standard connection point circuit breaker
manufacturer-recommended splice?
...
Length of conduit run greater than property line covenant
or local code restriction? Conduit run meets or exceeds
recommended diameter for outlet max. amperage?


WTF is all this BS?

And no mention of food-grade electricity?



OTOH we could "wire" you up and then stick you in a bathtub or something,
Sqwertz...

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT...!!!

--
Best
Greg


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Old 30-01-2007, 10:50 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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I could plug the fridge freezer into a normal socket tho, but would a cooker
be ok to work on a normal electric socket too, (I've been to the property
today and there is a faceplate where the cooker electric point should be
wired in to but no electric faceplate anywhere else so i'm assuming thats
the only place i can wire the cooker upto. (paying an electrician to do it
by the looks of it).

Sonny


"Dave Bugg" wrote in message
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stepson wrote:

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot,
and the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the
fridge freezer is supposed to go?


Since the electric cooktop plug-in is probably a 240v, it will be mighty
exciting to see the refrigerator compressor go POOF. And you amy have some
real trouble trying to run the range on 120v.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com





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Old 30-01-2007, 11:21 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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stepson wrote on 30 Jan 2007 in rec.food.cooking

I could plug the fridge freezer into a normal socket tho, but would a
cooker be ok to work on a normal electric socket too, (I've been to
the property today and there is a faceplate where the cooker electric
point should be wired in to but no electric faceplate anywhere else so
i'm assuming thats the only place i can wire the cooker upto. (paying
an electrician to do it by the looks of it).

Sonny



depends on the cooker...some are 220V some 120V some also reqire 20 amps or
more...Select model of cooker... read up on as to voltage & amperage
requirements. Then make wiring choices. Then purchase said cooker. Don't
plug cooker and fridge into same circuit...that way you won't blow fuses
and ruin stuff in an unpowered fridge.
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Old 31-01-2007, 04:19 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Mr Libido Incognito wrote:

stepson wrote on 30 Jan 2007 in rec.food.cooking

I could plug the fridge freezer into a normal socket tho, but would a
cooker be ok to work on a normal electric socket too, (I've been to
the property today and there is a faceplate where the cooker electric
point should be wired in to but no electric faceplate anywhere else so
i'm assuming thats the only place i can wire the cooker upto. (paying
an electrician to do it by the looks of it).

Sonny



depends on the cooker...some are 220V some 120V some also reqire 20 amps

or
more...Select model of cooker... read up on as to voltage & amperage
requirements. Then make wiring choices. Then purchase said cooker. Don't
plug cooker and fridge into same circuit...that way you won't blow fuses
and ruin stuff in an unpowered fridge.



This "stepson" guy is posting from the UK, right...???

If that's the case, it's doubtful there is any 120V stuff "in the
picture"...

--
Best
Greg


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Old 31-01-2007, 03:24 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Default wiring up of an electric cooker

stepson wrote:
New build property with a designated cooker bay with its own designated
electric cooker socket, with a little vent extraction thing in the ceiling
above it, (no gas allowed/supplied in this property), and on the other side
of the kitchen is the designated fridge/freezer bay, again with its own
electricity socket.

Would it be dangerous if I put the fridge freezer in the cooker slot, and
the cooker plugged into the standard electric point that the fridge freezer
is supposed to go?

Only reason i ask is the open plan property i want to put the cooker 2
metres further away from the living area than where they intended it to go.

cheers, sonny.


This posting by Panikovsky on electric samovars may be irrelevant:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...a731e2fcd5c6a6

-bwg

 




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