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Ferrante wrote:
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante I haven't, but if you use "real" bacon bits (rather than soy substitute like Bac-O's) that might work. The real ones work on top of baked potatoes, that's the only way I've tried them. Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
Ferrante wrote: I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante I haven't, but if you use "real" bacon bits (rather than soy substitute like Bac-O's) that might work. The real ones work on top of baked potatoes, that's the only way I've tried them. I've had expensive restaurants send out carbonara with no meat on them at all, so bacon bits would have been welcome. I'd say it's as okay as using bacon instead of Pancetta. --Blair "This is an artificially-flavored Usenet posting." |
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wrote: I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Store-bought "real" bacon bits seemed to be saltier than most store-bought bacon fried and crumbled. Check your batch and watch your portions and it should work. |
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Ferrante wrote:
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? I'm trying to picture a scenario where this would be desirable. What's the problem with just cooking up some bacon? I hate bacon bits, so I'm prejudiced. When I say what's the problem, I don't mean it in a snotty way, I can only assume there's some reason you can't or don't want to. nancy |
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"Ferrante" wrote in message news ![]() I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon cooked spaghetti eggs cheese Pasta water. Because the pancetta is cured and not smoked the dish has a very particular flavor. [pan-CHEH-tuh] An Italian bacon that is cured with salt and spices but not smoked. Flavorful, slightly salty pancetta comes in a sausagelike roll. It's used in Italian cooking to flavor sauces, pasta dishes, FORCEMEATS, vegetables and meats. Pancetta can be tightly wrapped and refrigerated for up to 3 weeks, or frozen up to 6 months. IMHO substituting bacon is not recommendable even if it be artificial bacon. Dimitri |
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"Dimitri" wrote in message . com...
"Ferrante" wrote in message news ![]() I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon cooked spaghetti eggs cheese Pasta water. Because the pancetta is cured and not smoked the dish has a very particular flavor. [pan-CHEH-tuh] An Italian bacon that is cured with salt and spices but not smoked. Flavorful, slightly salty pancetta comes in a sausagelike roll. It's used in Italian cooking to flavor sauces, pasta dishes, FORCEMEATS, vegetables and meats. Pancetta can be tightly wrapped and refrigerated for up to 3 weeks, or frozen up to 6 months. IMHO substituting bacon is not recommendable even if it be artificial bacon. Dimitri Mario Batali, whom is very well respected for his knowledge and appreciation of traditional Italian cuisine, once said on his show that bacon is a fine substitute for panchetta and he went on to say that the curing of bacon in America is superior to that of Italy. We shouldn't be so enamored with the ingredients when it is the process not the ingredients that is important in any cooking. |
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Vince Poroke wrote: "Dimitri" wrote in message . com... "Ferrante" wrote in message news
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon cooked spaghetti eggs cheese Pasta water. Because the pancetta is cured and not smoked the dish has a very particular flavor. [pan-CHEH-tuh] An Italian bacon that is cured with salt and spices but not smoked. Flavorful, slightly salty pancetta comes in a sausagelike roll. It's used in Italian cooking to flavor sauces, pasta dishes, FORCEMEATS, vegetables and meats. Pancetta can be tightly wrapped and refrigerated for up to 3 weeks, or frozen up to 6 months. IMHO substituting bacon is not recommendable even if it be artificial bacon. Dimitri Mario Batali, whom is very well respected for his knowledge and appreciation of traditional Italian cuisine, once said on his show that bacon is a fine substitute for panchetta and he went on to say that the curing of bacon in America is superior to that of Italy. We shouldn't be so enamored with the ingredients when it is the process not the ingredients that is important in any cooking. But, Dimitri was not speaking of curing. He was mentioning that pancetta is NOT smoked, as is much of U.S. bacon. It does make a difference. -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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Dimitri wrote: "Ferrante" wrote in message news
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon cooked spaghetti eggs cheese Pasta water. Because the pancetta is cured and not smoked the dish has a very particular flavor. [pan-CHEH-tuh] An Italian bacon that is cured with salt and spices but not smoked. Flavorful, slightly salty pancetta comes in a sausagelike roll. It's used in Italian cooking to flavor sauces, pasta dishes, FORCEMEATS, vegetables and meats. Pancetta can be tightly wrapped and refrigerated for up to 3 weeks, or frozen up to 6 months. IMHO substituting bacon is not recommendable even if it be artificial bacon. Dimitri Gee, maybe we can start a war, like fetuccine alfredo. ![]() -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:22:35 GMT, "Dimitri"
wrote: Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon Those of us who don't like pancetta can substitute bacon... we think the taste isn't the same, it's better. |
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"alzelt" wrote in message ... Dimitri wrote: "Ferrante" wrote in message news
I'm almost afraid to ask this, but has anyone substituted bacon bits in place of frying bacon when making Spaghetti Carbonara? If so, how did it taste? Mark Anthony Ferrante Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon cooked spaghetti eggs cheese Pasta water. Because the pancetta is cured and not smoked the dish has a very particular flavor. [pan-CHEH-tuh] An Italian bacon that is cured with salt and spices but not smoked. Flavorful, slightly salty pancetta comes in a sausagelike roll. It's used in Italian cooking to flavor sauces, pasta dishes, FORCEMEATS, vegetables and meats. Pancetta can be tightly wrapped and refrigerated for up to 3 weeks, or frozen up to 6 months. IMHO substituting bacon is not recommendable even if it be artificial bacon. Dimitri Gee, maybe we can start a war, like fetuccine alfredo. ![]() -- Alan :-) lol Dimitri |
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"sf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:22:35 GMT, "Dimitri" wrote: Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon Those of us who don't like pancetta can substitute bacon... we think the taste isn't the same, it's better. Then call it smoked carbonara or bacon carbonara. That is like saying, I like Asian pears better that apples so I'm going to make an apple pie using Asian pears but I'll continue to call it an apple pie. Carbonara is made with Pancetta not bacon, not ham, not sausage, not molinari, not Genoa, it's made with Pancetta. For goodness sake make it with salmon jerky if you like but call it something else. Dimitri. |
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"Dimitri" wrote in message
. com... "sf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:22:35 GMT, "Dimitri" wrote: Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon Those of us who don't like pancetta can substitute bacon... we think the taste isn't the same, it's better. Then call it smoked carbonara or bacon carbonara. That is like saying, I like Asian pears better that apples so I'm going to make an apple pie using Asian pears but I'll continue to call it an apple pie. Carbonara is made with Pancetta not bacon, not ham, not sausage, not molinari, not Genoa, it's made with Pancetta. For goodness sake make it with salmon jerky if you like but call it something else. Unfortunately for your claims, Dmitri, carbonara sauce is properly and traditionally made with smoked American style bacon. In fact it has been suggested that the sauce originated in WW2 when American soldiers would take bacon to local women and ask them to make a sauce with it. In Italy it is usually made with smoked bacon but in Rome the bacon is sometimes replaced with pork jowl. The use of pancetta is a substitute for the pork jowl. This information comes from Marcella Hazan's cookbook. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... "Dimitri" wrote in message . com... "sf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:22:35 GMT, "Dimitri" wrote: Just to be clear the original recipe has the following: Pancetta not bacon Those of us who don't like pancetta can substitute bacon... we think the taste isn't the same, it's better. Then call it smoked carbonara or bacon carbonara. That is like saying, I like Asian pears better that apples so I'm going to make an apple pie using Asian pears but I'll continue to call it an apple pie. Carbonara is made with Pancetta not bacon, not ham, not sausage, not molinari, not Genoa, it's made with Pancetta. For goodness sake make it with salmon jerky if you like but call it something else. Unfortunately for your claims, Dmitri, carbonara sauce is properly and traditionally made with smoked American style bacon. In fact it has been suggested that the sauce originated in WW2 when American soldiers would take bacon to local women and ask them to make a sauce with it. In Italy it is usually made with smoked bacon but in Rome the bacon is sometimes replaced with pork jowl. The use of pancetta is a substitute for the pork jowl. This information comes from Marcella Hazan's cookbook. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... Unfortunately for your claims, Dmitri, carbonara sauce is properly and traditionally made with smoked American style bacon. In fact it has been suggested that the sauce originated in WW2 when American soldiers would take bacon to local women and ask them to make a sauce with it. In Italy it is usually made with smoked bacon but in Rome the bacon is sometimes replaced with pork jowl. The use of pancetta is a substitute for the pork jowl. This information comes from Marcella Hazan's cookbook. -- Peter Aitken Actually the legend of the origin of Carbonara and it's origin come from the "charcoal makers" el carbonari (I believe) who were looking to easily transportable food for their trek into the mountains to make the charcoal. Dry Pasta, Pancetta and cheese need no refrigeration and eggs can be readily found along the way. The sauce did not originate in WW II - that is a myth; See : http://www.theartisan.net/FauxPas_Frameset.htm click on carbonara. |
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