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"~xy~" wrote Good grief! I aparently lost a majority of gray matter last night. What's a "foam?" A "foam" is a damn spill chucker error... Meant to be "foaf" F riend O f A F riend Sweet dreams... (laugh) I was thinking, friend of a mother? No. Friend of a ... Should have thought, typo? nancy |
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Bob (this one) wrote in message
... barry in indy wrote: "Bob (this one)" wrote It's either brewed and held at those temps or you won't buy it because it tastes like somebody ran it through a llama. Have you ever tried coffee run through a llama? I've had some in late night truckstops that certainly conjured thoughts like that... I think I prefer coffee that tastes like it was run through herbivores. The predator coffee has a distant fishy/meaty flavor note that I think overwhelms the fine bouquet and piquant overtones of well-aged roadhouse java. Although it was usually hard to actually tell much at those times, end of the evening as they were. No, seriously... Those visuals are just earthy enough to have caused a great-and-severe screen spatter with a naturally brewed cup of acidic liquid. I am asking for replacement of my keyboard, trackball, and CD-RW. My lawyers will settle for much, much more. BTW: Could you use a fork in those late-night truck stop drinks? The Ranger |
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(laugh) I was thinking, friend of a mother? No. Friend of a ...
Should have thought, typo? More likely a mis-click on the spill chucker, clicking 'change' instead of 'ignore' |
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On 2 Dec 2006 02:18:03 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com wrote: Well, you guys do have a lawsuit happy culture where you can sue for the coffee being too hot for millions of dollars Us 'others' get a chuckle out of that sometimes. We know most of you are smarter than that (atleast 49%, haha), but the labels have to satisfy the simpletons in your country to prevent being sued. I keep waiting for such lawsuits to banned. I'm sure I'll die waiting. Not while we have so many lawyers as legislator, and as judges. |
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The Ranger wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote in message ... barry in indy wrote: "Bob (this one)" wrote It's either brewed and held at those temps or you won't buy it because it tastes like somebody ran it through a llama. Have you ever tried coffee run through a llama? I've had some in late night truckstops that certainly conjured thoughts like that... I think I prefer coffee that tastes like it was run through herbivores. The predator coffee has a distant fishy/meaty flavor note that I think overwhelms the fine bouquet and piquant overtones of well-aged roadhouse java. Although it was usually hard to actually tell much at those times, end of the evening as they were. No, seriously... Those visuals are just earthy enough to have caused a great-and-severe screen spatter with a naturally brewed cup of acidic liquid. I am asking for replacement of my keyboard, trackball, and CD-RW. My lawyers will settle for much, much more. I'm not scared. I have on retainer Johnny Cochran and Clarence Darrow. BTW: Could you use a fork in those late-night truck stop drinks? No. They would dissolve. The forks, I mean. Pastorio |
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Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. -L. |
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"-L." wrote in message ps.com... Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. I have noticed this. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information. And after all we've meant to each other over the years... No, seriously... Pastorio |
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cybercat wrote:
"-L." wrote Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. I have noticed this. And...? Noticed anything else? Pastorio |
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:48:47 -0500, Bob (this one) wrote:
cybercat wrote: "-L." wrote Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. I have noticed this. And...? Noticed anything else? yeserday I went to this party and the hosts had this cute little jack russell terrier. i didn't think he looked anything like the one on Fraser. I would not have guessed it was the same breeed. The little guy I saw was more like a Caucasian dachshund, but a little taller so cute -- "The bill would create a centralized and open facility for gene and brain banking, which is essential for scientific progress in autism. ""--senator hayworth |
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Bob (this one) wrote: -L. wrote: Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information. I don't know if the information is accurate or not - you supplied no sources. Either way, it isn't a big deal to me. I agree with the jury. shrug Even though you claim all coffee is made the same way, I have had coffee that is *way* hotter than it should have been - way hotter than most other coffees I have ever had. If it's all made the *exact* same way, as you claim, how can that be? It can't. And don't tell me you want me to quote exact temperatures because you know damn well people don't measure the temp of their coffee with a thermometer. Extremely too ****ing hot is extremely too ****ing hot. And I'm not a hot coffee pussy. I like my java smokin'. And after all we've meant to each other over the years... No, seriously... The problem is you can't argue without adding a personal attack. Did I attack you personally - ever? No. Why? - because you usually don't deserve it. -L. |
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Bob (this one) wrote: And...? Noticed anything else? Pastorio Yeah - I've got a freaking mosquito buzzing around my office. Little ****er just bit me on the shoulderblade. When I squish his sorry ass, should I name him Bob? -L. |
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote: And...? Noticed anything else? Pastorio Yeah - I've got a freaking mosquito buzzing around my office. Little ****er just bit me on the shoulderblade. When I squish his sorry ass, should I name him Bob? If you do, be careful. Pastorio |
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote: -L. wrote: Bob (this one) wrote: Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help... No, seriously... Pastorio Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming. Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information. I don't know if the information is accurate or not - you supplied no sources. And you made no effort to see if *any of it* was accurate. You started off by exclaiming how most people were sadly ignorant of the facts of the case and proceeded to not know details surrounding the case. I offered lots of details, some that needed corroboration and some that were logical deductions. You've dismissed everyone of them without anything to counter any of it. Here are some sources that took, oh, maybe 5 minutes of Googling. http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/brewing.htm http://www.ineedcoffee.com/brewing/ http://www.boyds.com/coffee/brewingguide.html http://www.virtualcoffee.com/may/seven.html From a spec sheet of a factory-standard Bunn coffee maker like most restaurants use: "Brewing capacity: based upon incoming water temp of 60ºF (140ºF rise) per 1/2 gallon brew time of 4 minutes." That brings brewing temperature to 200F. These are the kinds of units that McD, every other food service operation, convenience store and fancy-ass dress shop use. Some have more or fewer heater plates, but they're all operating the same way. Click on US specs. http://www.bunn.com/pages/commercl/1coffee/automatic.html Either way, it isn't a big deal to me. I agree with the jury. shrug You've dismissed anything that disputes/questions your conclusion. You decided on incomplete and faulty information, and nothing has affected any part of your decision. New data that you didn't have didn't matter. Logic and deductions didn't matter. No facts, no technical information matters to your position. Yes, I can be an asshole. Not exactly news to me or anyone who's watched me over the years. But you can be intransigent and stubborn in the face of good info that contradicts you. It's one of your hallmarks. A kind of belligerent refusal to consider anything not yours. Our major flaws bump into each other. I've seen you develop arguments with an almost scientific laying out of material. It's not what you've done with this one. Even though you claim all coffee is made the same way, I have had coffee that is *way* hotter than it should have been - way hotter than most other coffees I have ever had. If it's all made the *exact* same way, as you claim, how can that be? It can't. Of course it can. Brewing temperature isn't serving temperature. Thick ceramic mugs drop the temperature 20 or 30 degrees just because of their thermal mass. Heater plates on coffee makers wear out and don't work to the factory-spec temperature after a while. Servers walk around a restaurant with a coffee pot for 5 minutes, pouring as they go. Coffee in a pot on a home coffee machine warmer plate for 20 minutes - and the warmer plate only heats to 145F. You just came in from the cold and took a sip of coffee. You picked up a takeout coffee and drove for 7 miles before drinking it. It's a very hot day and you just took a sip of coffee. Your takeout was poured directly from a pot that finished brewing 20 seconds ago and you want to drink it now. There can be lots of reasons why it hits your mouth at variable temperatures. As for what "it should have been," that's an individual judgement, not some objective criterion. As long as there are no specific temperatures given, there can be no stable conclusions. And don't tell me you want me to quote exact temperatures because you know damn well people don't measure the temp of their coffee with a thermometer. My point exactly. So the comparisons are all situational judgements. You want it to be that we're machines with unvarying responses, so that we can judge today's cup of coffee with that one last month. Never happen. Humans are like that. In early September, a 65F day is chilly. In March, it's nice and uncharacteristically warm. In the Northern Hemisphere. Extremely too ****ing hot is extremely too ****ing hot. Sorry. No. It isn't. That's an individual, situational judgement, not some absolute. And the same individual will see the same absolute temperatures in different ways at different times and settings. And I'm not a hot coffee pussy. I like my java smokin'. What a colorful expression. Apparently you like it so it's not "extremely too ****ing hot" - whatever that means. There's only so hot it can get. Coffee noticeably steams above 185F. It's a grand total difference between that and *maximum* brewing temp of 20 degrees F. And after all we've meant to each other over the years... No, seriously... The problem is you can't argue without adding a personal attack. Did I attack you personally - ever? No. Why? - because you usually don't deserve it. I believe that somebody said that I'm really an asshole sometimes. sigh I'm crushed, of course. After all the trouble I've gone to so I can be seen as a teddy bear. No, seriously... Pastorio |
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