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Old 03-12-2006, 05:31 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"~xy~" wrote

Good grief! I aparently lost a majority of gray matter last night.
What's a "foam?"


A "foam" is a damn spill chucker error...
Meant to be "foaf"

F riend
O f
A
F riend

Sweet dreams...


(laugh) I was thinking, friend of a mother? No. Friend of a ...

Should have thought, typo?

nancy


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Old 03-12-2006, 05:47 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Bob (this one) wrote in message
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barry in indy wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote

It's either brewed and held at those temps or you
won't buy it because it tastes like somebody ran
it through a llama.

Have you ever tried coffee run through a llama?

I've had some in late night truckstops that certainly
conjured thoughts like that...

I think I prefer coffee that tastes like it was run through
herbivores. The predator coffee has a distant fishy/meaty
flavor note that I think overwhelms the fine bouquet and
piquant overtones of well-aged roadhouse java. Although it
was usually hard to actually tell much at those times, end
of the evening as they were.

No, seriously...


Those visuals are just earthy enough to have caused a
great-and-severe screen spatter with a naturally brewed cup of
acidic liquid. I am asking for replacement of my keyboard,
trackball, and CD-RW. My lawyers will settle for much, much more.

BTW: Could you use a fork in those late-night truck stop drinks?

The Ranger


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Old 03-12-2006, 07:10 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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(laugh) I was thinking, friend of a mother? No. Friend of a ...

Should have thought, typo?


More likely a mis-click on the spill chucker, clicking 'change' instead of
'ignore'


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Old 03-12-2006, 07:30 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On 2 Dec 2006 02:18:03 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com wrote:


Well, you guys do have a lawsuit happy culture where you can sue for the
coffee being too hot for millions of dollars

Us 'others' get a chuckle out of that sometimes.

We know most of you are smarter than that (atleast 49%, haha), but the
labels have to satisfy the simpletons in your country to prevent being
sued.


I keep waiting for such lawsuits to banned. I'm sure I'll die waiting.


Not while we have so many lawyers as legislator, and as judges.
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:31 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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The Ranger wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote in message
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barry in indy wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote

It's either brewed and held at those temps or you
won't buy it because it tastes like somebody ran
it through a llama.

Have you ever tried coffee run through a llama?

I've had some in late night truckstops that certainly
conjured thoughts like that...

I think I prefer coffee that tastes like it was run through
herbivores. The predator coffee has a distant fishy/meaty
flavor note that I think overwhelms the fine bouquet and
piquant overtones of well-aged roadhouse java. Although it
was usually hard to actually tell much at those times, end
of the evening as they were.

No, seriously...


Those visuals are just earthy enough to have caused a
great-and-severe screen spatter with a naturally brewed cup of
acidic liquid. I am asking for replacement of my keyboard,
trackball, and CD-RW. My lawyers will settle for much, much more.


I'm not scared. I have on retainer Johnny Cochran and
Clarence Darrow.

BTW: Could you use a fork in those late-night truck stop drinks?


No. They would dissolve. The forks, I mean.

Pastorio
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:55 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Bob (this one) wrote:

Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.

-L.

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Old 04-12-2006, 12:11 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"Nancy Young" wrote in message
news

(laugh) I was thinking, friend of a mother? No. Friend of a
...

Should have thought, typo?


No, that's a "foat."

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Old 04-12-2006, 06:35 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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"-L." wrote in message
ps.com...

Bob (this one) wrote:

Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.


I have noticed this.



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Old 05-12-2006, 03:47 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:
Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.


Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information.

And after all we've meant to each other over the years...

No, seriously...

Pastorio
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:48 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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cybercat wrote:
"-L." wrote

Bob (this one) wrote:
Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.

I have noticed this.


And...? Noticed anything else?

Pastorio
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Old 05-12-2006, 07:56 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:48:47 -0500, Bob (this one) wrote:

cybercat wrote:
"-L." wrote

Bob (this one) wrote:
Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.

I have noticed this.


And...? Noticed anything else?


yeserday I went to this party and the hosts had this cute little jack
russell terrier. i didn't think he looked anything like the one on
Fraser. I would not have guessed it was the same breeed.

The little guy I saw was more like a Caucasian dachshund, but a little
taller

so cute

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Old 05-12-2006, 08:10 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Bob (this one) wrote:
-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:
Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio


Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.


Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information.


I don't know if the information is accurate or not - you supplied no
sources. Either way, it isn't a big deal to me. I agree with the
jury. shrug Even though you claim all coffee is made the same way, I
have had coffee that is *way* hotter than it should have been - way
hotter than most other coffees I have ever had. If it's all made the
*exact* same way, as you claim, how can that be? It can't. And don't
tell me you want me to quote exact temperatures because you know damn
well people don't measure the temp of their coffee with a thermometer.
Extremely too ****ing hot is extremely too ****ing hot. And I'm not a
hot coffee pussy. I like my java smokin'.


And after all we've meant to each other over the years...

No, seriously...


The problem is you can't argue without adding a personal attack. Did I
attack you personally - ever? No. Why? - because you usually don't
deserve it.

-L.

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Old 05-12-2006, 08:12 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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Bob (this one) wrote:

And...? Noticed anything else?

Pastorio


Yeah - I've got a freaking mosquito buzzing around my office. Little
****er just bit me on the shoulderblade.

When I squish his sorry ass, should I name him Bob?

-L.

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Old 05-12-2006, 03:04 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:
And...? Noticed anything else?

Pastorio


Yeah - I've got a freaking mosquito buzzing around my office. Little
****er just bit me on the shoulderblade.

When I squish his sorry ass, should I name him Bob?


If you do, be careful.

Pastorio
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:56 PM posted to rec.food.cooking
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-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:
-L. wrote:
Bob (this one) wrote:
Maybe drink iced coffee from now on. I'm just trying to help...

No, seriously...

Pastorio
Ya know, you're really an asshole sometimes. It's not becoming.


Translation: I was wrong and I appreciate the new information.


I don't know if the information is accurate or not - you supplied no
sources.


And you made no effort to see if *any of it* was accurate.
You started off by exclaiming how most people were sadly
ignorant of the facts of the case and proceeded to not know
details surrounding the case. I offered lots of details,
some that needed corroboration and some that were logical
deductions. You've dismissed everyone of them without
anything to counter any of it. Here are some sources that
took, oh, maybe 5 minutes of Googling.

http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/brewing.htm
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/brewing/
http://www.boyds.com/coffee/brewingguide.html
http://www.virtualcoffee.com/may/seven.html

From a spec sheet of a factory-standard Bunn coffee maker
like most restaurants use:
"Brewing capacity: based upon incoming water temp of 60ºF
(140ºF rise) per 1/2 gallon brew time of 4 minutes." That
brings brewing temperature to 200F. These are the kinds of
units that McD, every other food service operation,
convenience store and fancy-ass dress shop use. Some have
more or fewer heater plates, but they're all operating the
same way.

Click on US specs.
http://www.bunn.com/pages/commercl/1coffee/automatic.html

Either way, it isn't a big deal to me. I agree with the
jury. shrug


You've dismissed anything that disputes/questions your
conclusion. You decided on incomplete and faulty
information, and nothing has affected any part of your
decision. New data that you didn't have didn't matter. Logic
and deductions didn't matter. No facts, no technical
information matters to your position.

Yes, I can be an asshole. Not exactly news to me or anyone
who's watched me over the years. But you can be intransigent
and stubborn in the face of good info that contradicts you.
It's one of your hallmarks. A kind of belligerent refusal to
consider anything not yours. Our major flaws bump into each
other.

I've seen you develop arguments with an almost scientific
laying out of material. It's not what you've done with this one.

Even though you claim all coffee is made the same way, I
have had coffee that is *way* hotter than it should have been - way
hotter than most other coffees I have ever had. If it's all made the
*exact* same way, as you claim, how can that be? It can't.


Of course it can. Brewing temperature isn't serving
temperature. Thick ceramic mugs drop the temperature 20 or
30 degrees just because of their thermal mass. Heater plates
on coffee makers wear out and don't work to the factory-spec
temperature after a while. Servers walk around a restaurant
with a coffee pot for 5 minutes, pouring as they go. Coffee
in a pot on a home coffee machine warmer plate for 20
minutes - and the warmer plate only heats to 145F. You just
came in from the cold and took a sip of coffee. You picked
up a takeout coffee and drove for 7 miles before drinking
it. It's a very hot day and you just took a sip of coffee.
Your takeout was poured directly from a pot that finished
brewing 20 seconds ago and you want to drink it now. There
can be lots of reasons why it hits your mouth at variable
temperatures.

As for what "it should have been," that's an individual
judgement, not some objective criterion. As long as there
are no specific temperatures given, there can be no stable
conclusions.

And don't
tell me you want me to quote exact temperatures because you know damn
well people don't measure the temp of their coffee with a thermometer.


My point exactly. So the comparisons are all situational
judgements. You want it to be that we're machines with
unvarying responses, so that we can judge today's cup of
coffee with that one last month. Never happen. Humans are
like that.

In early September, a 65F day is chilly. In March, it's nice
and uncharacteristically warm. In the Northern Hemisphere.

Extremely too ****ing hot is extremely too ****ing hot.


Sorry. No. It isn't. That's an individual, situational
judgement, not some absolute. And the same individual will
see the same absolute temperatures in different ways at
different times and settings.

And I'm not a hot coffee pussy. I like my java smokin'.


What a colorful expression. Apparently you like it so it's
not "extremely too ****ing hot" - whatever that means.
There's only so hot it can get. Coffee noticeably steams
above 185F. It's a grand total difference between that and
*maximum* brewing temp of 20 degrees F.

And after all we've meant to each other over the years...

No, seriously...


The problem is you can't argue without adding a personal attack. Did I
attack you personally - ever? No. Why? - because you usually don't
deserve it.


I believe that somebody said that I'm really an asshole
sometimes. sigh I'm crushed, of course. After all the
trouble I've gone to so I can be seen as a teddy bear.

No, seriously...

Pastorio
 




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