Andy wrote:


Overcautious? Perhaps. It's cheaper to eat on paper and wash my whites at
the laundromat with chlorox rather than dig up the ceptic system and
field for replacing.

Oh, bull. We have a septic tank too. And for your information, I use my
washing machine on a daily basis. We have had no trouble with the septic
tank... and I sincerely doubt that dish washing detergent would cause
any more problems with the 'bacteria' in a septic tank.

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In article .com,
"Sheldon" wrote:


kilikini wrote:
Chatty Cathy wrote:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Vote now!

I wish I had a dishwasher other than myself!

But I thought you are married.

Sheldon

ROFL!!! Good point Shel'. ;-D
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"Andy" q wrote in message ...
Nancy Young said...


"Andy" q wrote

Since I'm basically a paper plate, plastic cups, knives, spoons and
forks man,

That is nothing to be bragging about.

nancy


nancy,

I chose that route because I have a ceptic system and have to take care
about using too much phosphate and bleach.

Andy

Nothing wrong with phosphate but bleach is poison for a septic system.
Ken.

"Andy" q wrote in message ...
Pete C. said...

Andy wrote:

Nancy Young said...


"Andy" q wrote

Since I'm basically a paper plate, plastic cups, knives, spoons and
forks man,

That is nothing to be bragging about.

nancy

nancy,

I chose that route because I have a ceptic system and have to take
care
about using too much phosphate and bleach.

Andy

I think you underestimate your septic system capacity unless it is
really old, improperly sized and already failing.

Pete C.


It's never failed yet. It was a new fiberglass tank when we moved in.

I HAVE seen the crystaline crust floating on top of the waste when
they've come to vacuum the tank. It does destroy the working bacteria,
slowing down the process if not kept in check.

Overcautious? Perhaps. It's cheaper to eat on paper and wash my whites at
the laundromat with chlorox rather than dig up the ceptic system and
field for replacing.

Andy
The 'crust' on the surface is normal and indicates that all is well in an
anarobic septic system.

Ken.

"kilikini" wrote in message
...
Chatty Cathy wrote:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Vote now!

I wish I had a dishwasher other than myself!

kili
Se my reply in the cast iron in the dishwasher thread.

Ken.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:04:09 +0200, Chatty Cathy
wrote:

Andy wrote:


Overcautious? Perhaps. It's cheaper to eat on paper and wash my whites at
the laundromat with chlorox rather than dig up the ceptic system and
field for replacing.

Oh, bull. We have a septic tank too. And for your information, I use my
washing machine on a daily basis. We have had no trouble with the septic
tank... and I sincerely doubt that dish washing detergent would cause
any more problems with the 'bacteria' in a septic tank.

I wasn't going to get into this discussion, but I have to add that
using paper plates, etc...fills up a landfill. It is much more
envirionmently sound to wash dishes, even by hand if you have to.

Christine

Sheldon wrote:
kilikini wrote:
Chatty Cathy wrote:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Vote now!

I wish I had a dishwasher other than myself!

But I thought you are married.

Sheldon

Yeah, therein lies the problem; I'm married to a food hound. LOL

kili
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http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

Christine Dabney wrote:


I wasn't going to get into this discussion, but I have to add that
using paper plates, etc...fills up a landfill. It is much more
envirionmently sound to wash dishes, even by hand if you have to.

I agree. But I will add this:


http://www.finish.co.uk/faq.shtml#Q44


Is FINISH Gel/tabs/powder safe for my septic tank?

All FINISH products are safe for use in homes with a septic system.


That's the stuff we get here for our dish washers...

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Little Malice said...

One time on Usenet, Andy q said:
Pete C. said...
Andy wrote:
Nancy Young said...
"Andy" q wrote

Since I'm basically a paper plate, plastic cups, knives, spoons
and forks man,

That is nothing to be bragging about.

I chose that route because I have a ceptic system and have to take
care about using too much phosphate and bleach.

I think you underestimate your septic system capacity unless it is
really old, improperly sized and already failing.

It's never failed yet. It was a new fiberglass tank when we moved in.

I HAVE seen the crystaline crust floating on top of the waste when
they've come to vacuum the tank. It does destroy the working
bacteria, slowing down the process if not kept in check.

Overcautious? Perhaps. It's cheaper to eat on paper and wash my
whites at the laundromat with chlorox rather than dig up the ceptic
system and field for replacing.

Have you tried septic tank treatments? This is the brand we use, but
there are lots of them out the

http://www.malibuwater.com/SepticCleaner.html

Some of these products aren't what they claim, so you might want to
check a consumer report before buying anything. But I've been happy
with Tri-Zyme (and no, I have no connection with the company that
makes it, even though it is relatively local)...


Jani,

Yes, on occasion (quarterly) I add treatment.

Andy

Ken Davey wrote:

"Andy" q wrote in message ...
Nancy Young said...


"Andy" q wrote

Since I'm basically a paper plate, plastic cups, knives, spoons and
forks man,

That is nothing to be bragging about.

nancy


nancy,

I chose that route because I have a ceptic system and have to take care
about using too much phosphate and bleach.

Andy

Nothing wrong with phosphate but bleach is poison for a septic system.
Ken.

Not in normal laundry use quantities. Pour a whole gallon of bleach into
your 1,500 gal septic tank and you'll certainly kill some of the
bacteria and it may take a week or two to recover. Pour a 1/4 cup into
your washing machines dispenser and send the resulting output into the
septic system and the bacteria will laugh at it.

Pete C.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:41:21 -0500, " BOB" wrote:

In ,
Chatty Cathy typed:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Vote now!

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Chatty Cathy

Before anyone starts analyzing the results, Yes, I own one and Yes,
I'd buy one. Mine is dieing and will soon be replaced *because* I
find it to be one of the most useful appliances in the *house*

I don't own a dishwasher, and don't want one. I don't think they get
the dishes clean enough, and if I'm gonna rinse the dishes before they
go in, I may as well just wash them and be done with it. Plus, I don't
mind washing dishes.

Serene
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"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

"Serene" wrote

I don't own a dishwasher, and don't want one. I don't think they get
the dishes clean enough, and if I'm gonna rinse the dishes before they
go in, I may as well just wash them and be done with it.

Mine gets dishes really, really clean 99% of the time, and I never
ever rinse a single one of them first.

Nothing wrong with washing your dishes by hand if you prefer,
just don't do it because dishwashers don't work. They do.

nancy

Serene wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:41:21 -0500, " BOB" wrote:

In ,
Chatty Cathy typed:
http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

Vote now!

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Before anyone starts analyzing the results, Yes, I own one and Yes,
I'd buy one. Mine is dieing and will soon be replaced *because* I
find it to be one of the most useful appliances in the *house*

I don't own a dishwasher, and don't want one. I don't think they get
the dishes clean enough, and if I'm gonna rinse the dishes before they
go in, I may as well just wash them and be done with it. Plus, I don't
mind washing dishes.

Serene
--
"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

I expect you haven't had any hands on experience with a dishwasher, or
at least not a recent one of decent quality. They get dishes cleaner
than hand washing and do so while using less water, detergent and energy
than hand washing.

Pete C.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500, "Nancy Young"
wrote:


"Serene" wrote

I don't own a dishwasher, and don't want one. I don't think they get
the dishes clean enough, and if I'm gonna rinse the dishes before they
go in, I may as well just wash them and be done with it.

Mine gets dishes really, really clean 99% of the time, and I never
ever rinse a single one of them first.

Nothing wrong with washing your dishes by hand if you prefer,
just don't do it because dishwashers don't work. They do.

None of the ones I've ever had have managed to get a whole load of
dishes clean, with no food left on, and no soapy schmutz, even the
brand-new one at Guy's house. Clearly, they don't work well enough
for my taste, and when I wash them with my own hands, I can see each
dish and know it's clean enough for me.

Serene
--
"I can't decide if I feel more like four ten-year-olds or ten four-year-olds." Laurie Anderson , on turning 40.

http://serenejournal.livejournal.com

"Serene" wrote

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500, "Nancy Young"
wrote:

Mine gets dishes really, really clean 99% of the time, and I never
ever rinse a single one of them first.

Nothing wrong with washing your dishes by hand if you prefer,
just don't do it because dishwashers don't work. They do.

None of the ones I've ever had have managed to get a whole load of
dishes clean, with no food left on, and no soapy schmutz, even the
brand-new one at Guy's house. Clearly, they don't work well enough
for my taste, and when I wash them with my own hands, I can see each
dish and know it's clean enough for me.

Just to say, I am quite fussy. I grew up being the family dishwasher,
under the oh so watchful eye of my stepmother. I don't want you to
think I'm okay with dirty, soapy dishes, myself.

nancy