Had the Archadeck folks out to give us an estimate on a deck (two level,
one for relaxing and the other for the hot tub we're getting) and
wondered if putting a "fixed" permanent gas grill in the plans might be
a good idea at this point? We use a gas grill now but one of those
large portable ones. Do the built in ones perform any better? Higher
BTU's or whatever? Does anyone have any recommendations? Any features
in particular to look for?
Thanks
Goomba

Did you have a budget in mind? I have a higher end Weber gas grill. I
love it. It is stainless works like a charm. Amazon also has many good
reviews you may want to read up on. I chose Weber because I knew I
could get replacement parts for it. I wanted to buy 1 decent gas grill
rather than an inexpensive one that would need to be replaced in time.

jay wrote:

Check this site. You can compare many different models. GO natural gas if
you have it available..same for the HOT tub.

Yes! Natural gas is what I meant when I asked about permanent gas
grills. I grew up with one that was built in original to the house. It
was a solid monster yet simple grill with the cement patio poured around
the base and it worked off the house gas. But that was many years ago
and I haven't seen one like that since. We use a portable propane tank
type gas grill now. I've rarely used charcoal so have no complaints with
cooking on the gas grill. One man I knew won't eat at a cookout unless
the food is grilled on charcoal. LOL.


I didn't know about natural gas for the hot tub, no one at the Sundance
spa placed mentioned this option?

"Goomba38" wrote in message
. ..

Had the Archadeck folks out to give us an estimate on a deck (two level,
one for relaxing and the other for the hot tub we're getting) and wondered
if putting a "fixed" permanent gas grill in the plans might be a good idea
at this point? We use a gas grill now but one of those large portable
ones. Do the built in ones perform any better? Higher BTU's or whatever?
Does anyone have any recommendations? Any features in particular to look
for?
Thanks
Goomba

Budget? You can spend from $1000 to $10,000 for a nice setup. Many of the
built in units are simply the regular grill minus the cart part so the
performance is the same. They can sure look nice though.

Good brands to consider are Vermont Castings, Modern Home Products (MHP) and
Napoleon.

Goomba38 wrote:
Had the Archadeck folks out to give us an estimate on a deck (two level,
one for relaxing and the other for the hot tub we're getting) and
wondered if putting a "fixed" permanent gas grill in the plans might be
a good idea at this point? We use a gas grill now but one of those
large portable ones. Do the built in ones perform any better? Higher
BTU's or whatever? Does anyone have any recommendations? Any features
in particular to look for?

I wouldn't place any kind of grill directly on a deck that's
combustable... check with your local fire marshall, you'll find out
that placing a grill within a certain distance from a combustable
structure is a big no no... your homeowner insurance policy agent will
tell you not to do it too... if your grill is not installed to code and
it burns your house down your insurance won't pay.

Grills are installed/situated *off* the deck, on the ground or on a
masonary patio, and usually some 15" from combustable structures...
check with your fire marshall for proper distances... and be certain to
notifiy your homeowner insurance agent of any permanent grill
installation, they will send an inspector and your premium rate will be
increased regardless that's it's set to code. If your portable grill
ignites your house and it's determined that it was set too close at the
time then you're plum out of luck, insurance won't pay. And be sure to
follow code for gas supply too, proper bottles, and if natural gas have
it plumbed by a properly licenced contractor.


Sheldon

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Budget? You can spend from $1000 to $10,000 for a nice setup. Many of the
built in units are simply the regular grill minus the cart part so the
performance is the same. They can sure look nice though.

Good brands to consider are Vermont Castings, Modern Home Products (MHP) and
Napoleon.

Thank you for giving me some brand names to investigate. Having a grill
tied into the house gas line (hence no need for the "cart part" as you
say) would be convenient. One touch turn on, and no refilling of those
tanks! I welcome that alone!

Goomba38 wrote:

I didn't know about natural gas for the hot tub, no one at the Sundance
spa placed mentioned this option?

Then you'd be wise not to buy there. Propane can be used to heat spas
too.

jay said...

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:40:11 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:

Does anyone have any recommendations? Any features
in particular to look for?
Thanks
Goomba

I have owned one of these for about 5 years and have NO complaints.
Mine is a cart model (it is one piece NOT a grill sitting on a cart
like some are) plumbed to natural gas. I highly recommend them.

http://www.lynxgrills.com/


WHOA!!! The Cadillac of bbq grills. Just about fainted when I saw the
prices.

I'd definitely order one of the rotisserie models!

I'm due for a new bbq grill for next season. I'll probably try a Weber
kettle with lump charcoal.

Andy

If you want high BTUs and you're not on a tight budget, check out the
various grills with infrared burners. Google "infrared grill" and you
should come up with links to several manufacturers' and informational
sites.

I've only had hands-on experience with an infrared back-mounted
rotisserie burner, but it worked well and I could see the advantages for
general grilling, again, if you can afford the hefty price difference
over conventional gas burners.

Built-ins don't necessarily perform any better, but they tend to be more
convenient because the islands they're built into usually feature
larger, more solid and often heat-proof work surfaces and more enclosed
storage areas, even including small refrigerators, ice makers, etc.

Bob
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In article , goomba38
@comcast.net says...

Had the Archadeck folks out to give us an estimate on a deck (two level,
one for relaxing and the other for the hot tub we're getting) and
wondered if putting a "fixed" permanent gas grill in the plans might be
a good idea at this point? We use a gas grill now but one of those
large portable ones. Do the built in ones perform any better? Higher
BTU's or whatever? Does anyone have any recommendations? Any features
in particular to look for?
Thanks
Goomba

You can't go wrong with a Weber kettle. I would recommend springing for
the "One-Touch" model in the size you want. I recently got an 18½-inch
One-Touch kettle for quick grilling jobs, and am very pleased with it.
The ash collection pan makes housekeeping very neat and convenient
compared to the basic models.

I'm not sure lump makes all that much difference in the Webers if you're
not doing "real" low and slow, indirect cooked bbq. True, you'll avoid
the coal byproduct additives found in Kingsford and similar briquets,
but once the briquets get up to temp for direct grilling, they seem to
burn as clean and hot as lump, for less money. The briquets do produce
quite a bit more ash, but with the one-touch feature, this is much less
of a nuisance than it would otherwise be.

Bob
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In article , Andy q says...

I'm due for a new bbq grill for next season. I'll probably try a Weber
kettle with lump charcoal.

Andy

My recommendation is, I've never seen a grill that lasted a life time so
don't purchase one with a once in a lifetime price.

Muddle said...

My recommendation is, I've never seen a grill that lasted a life time so
don't purchase one with a once in a lifetime price.


I see Ace Hardware sells the One-Touch Silver Kettle (18-1/2") for $65.00.
If it only lasts for five seasons, it's still a bargain.

Andy

I'm 47 years old and have burned through a dozen of them of various prices.
The only grill designed to last a lifetime if you take good care of it is a
cast iron Hibachi.
http://bbq.about.com/cs/portablegrills/a/aa101803a.htm
I've a huge one made out of a Cast Iron Kettle with a steel lid and even it
requires some welding, seasoning and exterior coating with Kettle Black from
time to time. I use it when I want to cook on a jet engine not some whimpy
grill. With it I can sear a steak on the outside and have it nice and rare
inside in about four min. Since the grill grate is a diamond pattern I
don't even have to turn the meat to make a crosshatch pattern brand on a
steak. Two min on one side and two min on the other then serve.

"jay" wrote in message
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:05:23 GMT, Muddle wrote:

My recommendation is, I've never seen a grill that lasted a life time so


How would you know this? lol

"Muddle" wrote

My recommendation is, I've never seen a grill that lasted a life time so
don't purchase one with a once in a lifetime price.

And don't be suckered into one with a two year price,
either, but Goomba knows that.

nancy

"Nancy Young" wrote in message
. ..

"Muddle" wrote

My recommendation is, I've never seen a grill that lasted a life time so
don't purchase one with a once in a lifetime price.

And don't be suckered into one with a two year price,
either, but Goomba knows that.

nancy


Truth be told, the taste your seeking is nothing more than a bunch of rocks
in a circle with a grate designed to last longer than it takes to cook the
meat.