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Old 31-10-2006, 05:57 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Brablo
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i buy dry, hard kidney beans from an indian grocery store. i never buy
the
canned ones, because it has chemicals such as calcium chloride and
other things. also, it's more expensive.

when i make kidney bean curry (called rajma in indian), i soak it
overnight with a little salt and garam masala spice powder. this way,
as the hard rajma beans expand, it absorbs some of the garam masala and
salt.


my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


is this normal, or is my pressure cooker not working? my pressure
cooker is made by "mantra corporation" (made in india, bought in the
USA).

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Old 31-10-2006, 08:20 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
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Brablo wrote:
i buy dry, hard kidney beans from an indian grocery store. i never buy
the
canned ones, because it has chemicals such as calcium chloride and
other things. also, it's more expensive.

when i make kidney bean curry (called rajma in indian), i soak it
overnight with a little salt and garam masala spice powder. this way,
as the hard rajma beans expand, it absorbs some of the garam masala and
salt.


my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


is this normal, or is my pressure cooker not working? my pressure
cooker is made by "mantra corporation" (made in india, bought in the
USA).


Ditch the salt. It prevents the beans from softening. Also, how much
garam masala are the beans absorbing during the soak? Little or none I
suspect, especially if the beans aren't softening appreciably while
soaking. Ditch it, too.

-bwg

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Old 31-10-2006, 11:37 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Brablo
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Barry,

Is my pressure-cooking for 5.5 hours normal or abnormal? Do you think
that I have something wrong with my pressure cooker?

Thanks for your great advice.


-bwg wrote:
Brablo wrote:
i buy dry, hard kidney beans from an indian grocery store. i never buy
the
canned ones, because it has chemicals such as calcium chloride and
other things. also, it's more expensive.

when i make kidney bean curry (called rajma in indian), i soak it
overnight with a little salt and garam masala spice powder. this way,
as the hard rajma beans expand, it absorbs some of the garam masala and
salt.


my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


is this normal, or is my pressure cooker not working? my pressure
cooker is made by "mantra corporation" (made in india, bought in the
USA).


Ditch the salt. It prevents the beans from softening. Also, how much
garam masala are the beans absorbing during the soak? Little or none I
suspect, especially if the beans aren't softening appreciably while
soaking. Ditch it, too.

-bwg


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Old 01-11-2006, 08:42 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
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Brablo wrote:
Is my pressure-cooking for 5.5 hours normal or abnormal? Do you think
that I have something wrong with my pressure cooker?


Skip salt and Masala, after all beans are not meat you need to
marinate.

Job is easy if you have Microwave. In a well covered Oven bowl put them
in sufficient boiling water. With beans and water as tightly as
possible run microwave for a minute.

Now and then run microwave for a minute. After about 5 hours and five
microwave one minute run you will not need to cook in Pressure Cooker.

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Old 01-11-2006, 08:52 AM posted to rec.food.cooking
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On 31 Oct 2006 08:57:37 -0800, "Brablo"
wrote:

my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


Yikes! Kidneys take me about 10-12 minutes, twice that if they're not
soaked.

Either you've got old beans, or you're adding WAY too much salt.

I'd cook them without the salt, and salt them after cooking.

(I soak them overnight, rinse them, put them in the pressure cooker
with just enough water to cover, add a teaspoon of oil, and cook 10-12
minutes at high pressure.)

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Old 01-11-2006, 10:55 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
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Hey man...
Forget about Salt and Masala during soaking of it. Once the beans
expand Pressure cook it for 10 mins or three whitles and off the gas.
Keep it in the cooker for sometime and remove it. That's it.. if you
want a good rajma receipes visit:http://indianfoodstuff.blogspot.com
Brablo wrote:
i buy dry, hard kidney beans from an indian grocery store. i never buy
the
canned ones, because it has chemicals such as calcium chloride and
other things. also, it's more expensive.

when i make kidney bean curry (called rajma in indian), i soak it
overnight with a little salt and garam masala spice powder. this way,
as the hard rajma beans expand, it absorbs some of the garam masala and
salt.


my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


is this normal, or is my pressure cooker not working? my pressure
cooker is made by "mantra corporation" (made in india, bought in the
USA).


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Old 01-11-2006, 05:11 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Brablo
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Romanise,

It sounds that this is explosive!!!! also, food won't cook in a
microwave unless the water is exposed to the microwave rays. but since
your method, the food is covered by a container, the rajma mixture
should never heat up much, or this is very inefficient to heat up
things.

also, it sounds very very dangerous.


Romanise wrote:
Brablo wrote:
Is my pressure-cooking for 5.5 hours normal or abnormal? Do you think
that I have something wrong with my pressure cooker?


Skip salt and Masala, after all beans are not meat you need to
marinate.

Job is easy if you have Microwave. In a well covered Oven bowl put them
in sufficient boiling water. With beans and water as tightly as
possible run microwave for a minute.

Now and then run microwave for a minute. After about 5 hours and five
microwave one minute run you will not need to cook in Pressure Cooker.


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Old 01-11-2006, 05:44 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Romanise
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Brablo wrote:
Romanise,

It sounds that this is explosive!!!! also, food won't cook in a
microwave unless the water is exposed to the microwave rays. but since
your method, the food is covered by a container, the rajma mixture
should never heat up much, or this is very inefficient to heat up
things.

also, it sounds very very dangerous.


Are you unfamiliar with microwave?

Pyrex Casseroles work both in all kinds of ovens, in microwave
included.

Lokk at them
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/8607027.htm

If you can see them, we use largest to make our bengan bhurta, takes 12
minutes.

Covering makes cooking faster. .

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Old 01-11-2006, 05:50 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Brablo
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Dipsee,

If it only takes you a few minutes and it takes me a few hours, this
VERIFIES that there is something wrong with my pressure cooker!

I'm quite angry thinking about this now.

I am sure that it should *NOT* take 5.5 hours to cook rajma, but more
like 30 minutes or so.

Are you sure that you use the "HARD" rajma (hard as stones) that's dry?


Dipsee wrote:
Hey man...
Forget about Salt and Masala during soaking of it. Once the beans
expand Pressure cook it for 10 mins or three whitles and off the gas.
Keep it in the cooker for sometime and remove it. That's it.. if you
want a good rajma receipes visit:http://indianfoodstuff.blogspot.com
Brablo wrote:
i buy dry, hard kidney beans from an indian grocery store. i never buy
the
canned ones, because it has chemicals such as calcium chloride and
other things. also, it's more expensive.

when i make kidney bean curry (called rajma in indian), i soak it
overnight with a little salt and garam masala spice powder. this way,
as the hard rajma beans expand, it absorbs some of the garam masala and
salt.


my problem is that it takes me a very, very long time to make rajma.
in fact, it takes about 5.5 hours IN A PRESSURE COOKER. moreover, i
must use about 8 cups of water to 1 cup of rajma.


is this normal, or is my pressure cooker not working? my pressure
cooker is made by "mantra corporation" (made in india, bought in the
USA).


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Old 01-11-2006, 06:01 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
anupama.ahuja@gmail.com
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Hey

How do you make Bengan Bhurta in these pans... I am quite curious. I
usually end up baking the bengan in oven...

Thanks
A



Are you unfamiliar with microwave?

Pyrex Casseroles work both in all kinds of ovens, in microwave
included.

Lokk at them
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/8607027.htm

If you can see them, we use largest to make our bengan bhurta, takes 12
minutes.

Covering makes cooking faster. .


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Old 01-11-2006, 06:27 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Romanise
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Brablo wrote:
Dipsee,

If it only takes you a few minutes and it takes me a few hours, this
VERIFIES that there is something wrong with my pressure cooker!

I'm quite angry thinking about this now.

I am sure that it should *NOT* take 5.5 hours to cook rajma, but more
like 30 minutes or so.


Have you calculated how much water will vaporize in 5.5 hours at
whatever heat you are putting your cooker?

I would say about 4 litres of water will disappear.


Are you sure that you use the "HARD" rajma (hard as stones) that's dry?


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Old 01-11-2006, 06:56 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Brablo
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Romanise,

Your estimate is not that far off. Since I use a very very small
flame, it vaporizes roughly 1 cup (~10 oz.) of water an hour.

I'm going to have to invest in a new pressure cooker. No more Manttra
cookers for me - this is the second one that has failed on me.


Romanise wrote:
Brablo wrote:
Dipsee,

If it only takes you a few minutes and it takes me a few hours, this
VERIFIES that there is something wrong with my pressure cooker!

I'm quite angry thinking about this now.

I am sure that it should *NOT* take 5.5 hours to cook rajma, but more
like 30 minutes or so.


Have you calculated how much water will vaporize in 5.5 hours at
whatever heat you are putting your cooker?

I would say about 4 litres of water will disappear.


Are you sure that you use the "HARD" rajma (hard as stones) that's dry?


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Old 01-11-2006, 07:13 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
Romanise
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Brablo wrote:
Romanise,

Your estimate is not that far off. Since I use a very very small
flame, it vaporizes roughly 1 cup (~10 oz.) of water an hour.

I'm going to have to invest in a new pressure cooker. No more Manttra
cookers for me - this is the second one that has failed on me.


Pressure coocker works on principle of buiding up pressure. That is why
they say 'for so many whistles'. If one wants to save fuel and has time
she can stand by the cooker and keep flame just right so the weight on
cooker dances but does not let steam off and give out whistle.

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Old 01-11-2006, 08:25 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,rec.food.cooking
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Brablo wrote:
Is my pressure-cooking for 5.5 hours normal or abnormal? Do you think
that I have something wrong with my pressure cooker?


Very abnormal!

Beans should not take more than 20 to 30 minutes.

20 is standard for beans from dry if you get the liquid to dry bean
ration right. It's generally 2 parts liquid to 1 part beans. I add a
little extra liquid for pressure cooking, or more if I'm making soup.
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