Nicky wrote:

"Vicki Beausoleil" wrote in message
...
Labneh is the arabic word for yogurt cheese. I love the stuff.

Ah! OK, thanks. I love new words!

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/73/72Kg

Sooo, you're a linguaphile, are you?

Check this out.

http://wordsmith.org

I've been a member since my first day with internet access.

Vicki

Nicky wrote:
"Pete Romfh" wrote in
message ...
Vicki Beausoleil wrote:
It makes
labneh to die for!

What's that, Vicki?

I wish I was so blessed. I've got to cut fat, cals, and
carbs. I won't be seeing a real double cheeseburger for
a looooong time.

Um, Pete - what are you going to live on? : ) Most
diabetics find that a low-carb diet keeps the blood sugar
controlled best, although some seem to cope on a low-fat,
low-GI carb diet. Generally people pick one diet or the
other (with sensible substitutions such as watching sat
fats), not both...

Nicky.

I'm dealing with metabolic syndrome. Hyperlipidemia, Hypertension, Obesity,
and Diabetes.
It's moderately common in older males.
High blood sugar make the others twice as risky but getting fat levels down
is equally important.
So far I've brought my weight down 30 lbs, blood pressure down 40 points,
lipids in half, and HgA1c is now 6.4.
Thus I'm trying to develop dishes that aere low in both fat and carbs.
Otherwise I die from a stroke or MI.
Of course, they *might* stand over the casket and say, "Weren't his sugar
levels low? He certainly *looks* healthy."

I agree that one or the other diet would be easier but not everyone has the
luxury of choosing.
--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org

"Pete Romfh" wrote in message
...
Susan

There is when your HDL is high and you're being threatened with a heart
attack or stroke.


HDL is GOOD, you want it to be high.
Fat is only dangerous in the presence of refined carbs. Eat fat with a
little protein and lots of low carb veggies.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:36:56 -0600, "Pete Romfh"
wrote:

Cutting out carbs *and* fat is unhealthy and unsavory.
Bleah. There's no healthy reason to do both.

Susan

There is when your HDL is high and you're being threatened with a heart
attack or stroke.

There's a little too much generalisation there. There are
many types of fat; some you do want to cut, like trans-fats,
some you may not, like mono-unsaturated. Starvation is only
effective as a final and terminal method.

I hope you meant LDL; most of us want higher HDL.

Whatever the threat, panic reactions are less effective than
thoughtful reactions (unless you are in an ER:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Alan S wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:36:56 -0600, "Pete Romfh"
wrote:

Cutting out carbs *and* fat is unhealthy and unsavory.
Bleah. There's no healthy reason to do both.

Susan

There is when your HDL is high and you're being
threatened with a heart attack or stroke.

There's a little too much generalisation there. There are
many types of fat; some you do want to cut, like trans-
fats, some you may not, like mono-unsaturated. Starvation
is only effective as a final and terminal method.

I hope you meant LDL; most of us want higher HDL.

Whatever the threat, panic reactions are less effective
than thoughtful reactions (unless you are in an ER:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Yes, I meant LDL.
This isn't a panic reaction. I'm not cutting out all fats. But I'm certainly
reducing the amount of animal fat I take in based on (what I consider to be)
sound medical advice. A double cheeseburger isn't good for me any way you
slice it, with or without the bun.

A Burger King "Double Whopper with cheese" BTW works out to:
1090 cals (I'm trying to stay around 1500/day). 69g fat (I get 49/day) with
70% of it cholesterol, 56g Protein (I'm good there), 53g Carbs, and 4g fiber
and close to a gram of salt. That would pretty well wreck my diet for
several days. I'd be mainlining Zocor and HCTZ for a week exclusive of what
it would do to my glucose level.

--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:15:41 -0600, "Pete Romfh"
wrote:

Alan S wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:36:56 -0600, "Pete Romfh"
wrote:

Cutting out carbs *and* fat is unhealthy and unsavory.
Bleah. There's no healthy reason to do both.

Susan

There is when your HDL is high and you're being
threatened with a heart attack or stroke.

There's a little too much generalisation there. There are
many types of fat; some you do want to cut, like trans-
fats, some you may not, like mono-unsaturated. Starvation
is only effective as a final and terminal method.

I hope you meant LDL; most of us want higher HDL.

Whatever the threat, panic reactions are less effective
than thoughtful reactions (unless you are in an ER:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Yes, I meant LDL.
This isn't a panic reaction. I'm not cutting out all fats. But I'm certainly
reducing the amount of animal fat I take in based on (what I consider to be)
sound medical advice. A double cheeseburger isn't good for me any way you
slice it, with or without the bun.

A Burger King "Double Whopper with cheese" BTW works out to:
1090 cals (I'm trying to stay around 1500/day). 69g fat (I get 49/day) with
70% of it cholesterol, 56g Protein (I'm good there), 53g Carbs, and 4g fiber
and close to a gram of salt. That would pretty well wreck my diet for
several days. I'd be mainlining Zocor and HCTZ for a week exclusive of what
it would do to my glucose level.

I'm glad you clarified that.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

My fast food demon is Big Macs

--

Thank Ye Kindly,

Dale aka Night Spirit
"Pete Romfh" wrote in message
...
Alan S wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:36:56 -0600, "Pete Romfh"
wrote:

Cutting out carbs *and* fat is unhealthy and unsavory.
Bleah. There's no healthy reason to do both.

Susan

There is when your HDL is high and you're being
threatened with a heart attack or stroke.

There's a little too much generalisation there. There are
many types of fat; some you do want to cut, like trans-
fats, some you may not, like mono-unsaturated. Starvation
is only effective as a final and terminal method.

I hope you meant LDL; most of us want higher HDL.

Whatever the threat, panic reactions are less effective
than thoughtful reactions (unless you are in an ER:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Yes, I meant LDL.
This isn't a panic reaction. I'm not cutting out all fats. But I'm
certainly
reducing the amount of animal fat I take in based on (what I
consider to be)
sound medical advice. A double cheeseburger isn't good for me any
way you
slice it, with or without the bun.

A Burger King "Double Whopper with cheese" BTW works out to:
1090 cals (I'm trying to stay around 1500/day). 69g fat (I get
49/day) with
70% of it cholesterol, 56g Protein (I'm good there), 53g Carbs, and
4g fiber
and close to a gram of salt. That would pretty well wreck my diet
for
several days. I'd be mainlining Zocor and HCTZ for a week exclusive
of what
it would do to my glucose level.

--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org

"Vicki Beausoleil" wrote in message
...
http://wordsmith.org

Oh, cool, thanks! I've been enjoying Google's word-a-day thing, but words
that come to me are even better : )

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/73/72Kg

"Pete Romfh" wrote in message
...
I'm dealing with metabolic syndrome. Hyperlipidemia, Hypertension,
Obesity,
and Diabetes.

They're all one syndrome, don't panic! And inflammation is the link. Try
researching about the Cypriot diet or the Polymath diet, which specifically
target all the areas you're worried about, without being low fat. You'd have
to see what your meter says about individual items and your blood sugar
levels.

So far I've brought my weight down 30 lbs,

Well, that's the big key! Congratulations, and may you achieve and maintain
goal weight : ) What exercise routine are you following?

I agree that one or the other diet would be easier but not everyone has
the
luxury of choosing.

Hyperlipidaemia, hypertension and high bgs are the usual condition for
diabletics, along with the weight. Pretty well everyone who does low spike
as a diet improves ALL their markers. The choice of what goes in to
low-spike requires a bit of intelligence - I read everything Quentin writes,
and eat pretty well what he recommends. It ends up a low sat, moderate unsat
fat, lowish carb diet that meets 100% of RDA for everything - and tastes
good : )

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/73/72Kg

Nicky wrote:
"Pete Romfh" wrote in
message ...
I'm dealing with metabolic syndrome. Hyperlipidemia,
Hypertension, Obesity,
and Diabetes.

They're all one syndrome, don't panic! And inflammation
is the link. Try researching about the Cypriot diet or
the Polymath diet, which specifically target all the
areas you're worried about, without being low fat. You'd
have to see what your meter says about individual items
and your blood sugar levels.

So far I've brought my weight down 30 lbs,

Well, that's the big key! Congratulations, and may you
achieve and maintain goal weight : ) What exercise
routine are you following?

I agree that one or the other diet would be easier but
not everyone has the
luxury of choosing.

Hyperlipidaemia, hypertension and high bgs are the usual
condition for diabletics, along with the weight. Pretty
well everyone who does low spike as a diet improves ALL
their markers. The choice of what goes in to low-spike
requires a bit of intelligence - I read everything
Quentin writes, and eat pretty well what he recommends.
It ends up a low sat, moderate unsat fat, lowish carb
diet that meets 100% of RDA for everything - and tastes
good : )

Nicky.

Thanks for the info. I'm counting daily steps (6000 average) and hitting the
treadmill (2, 20 min miles) at least 3X/week.
I got attacked by an Indian buffet and 2 cookies during a business
conference yesterday. Today we're having the TG Potluck in the office.
Everyone waits to see what "the chef" will bring.

This time it's vegetable-cornbread dressing (from the ideas discussed on
A.S.D.) and roasted-garlic mashed cauliflower.
If it's successful I'll write up the recipe for the dressing and post it.

The cauliflower recipe is available at: http://www.bigoven.com/recipe159985


--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org

"Pete Romfh" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info. I'm counting daily steps (6000 average) and hitting
the
treadmill (2, 20 min miles) at least 3X/week.

Nice start!

I got attacked by an Indian buffet and 2 cookies during a business
conference yesterday.

Lol! Nice image : )

Today we're having the TG Potluck in the office.
Everyone waits to see what "the chef" will bring.

This time it's vegetable-cornbread dressing (from the ideas discussed on
A.S.D.) and roasted-garlic mashed cauliflower.

The dressing sounds good. The cauli will be a hit, I'm sure - I haven't met
anyone who doesn't like it!

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/73/72Kg

"Night Spirit" wrote in news:b0Aef.716$wf.455
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

My fast food demon is Big Macs


I love those. I order them without the middle bun to make it more carb
friendly. Yeah, I know you can take the middle bun off yourself, but
then you lose all the dressing that they put on the middle bun!

Sherry

"Pete Romfh" wrote in
:

snip
Thanks for the info. I'm counting daily steps (6000 average) and
hitting the treadmill (2, 20 min miles) at least 3X/week.
I got attacked by an Indian buffet and 2 cookies during a business
conference yesterday. Today we're having the TG Potluck in the
office. Everyone waits to see what "the chef" will bring.

This time it's vegetable-cornbread dressing (from the ideas
discussed on A.S.D.) and roasted-garlic mashed cauliflower.
If it's successful I'll write up the recipe for the dressing and
post it.

The cauliflower recipe is available at:
http://www.bigoven.com/recipe159985




The cauliflower sounds good - but I'd stay away from the cornbread
since it can be high in sugar plus it has plain white flour. Looking
at some recipes, a serving is about 30 grams of carbs. Unless you can
find a low-carb version of cornbread, of course. (Love the stuff and
crave good cornbread dripping with butter and honey.......)

Taking another look at the cauliflower recipe - I see there's a smidgen
of potato flakes in it. That sounds even tastier yet!

Sherry

Sherry wrote:
"Pete Romfh" wrote in
:

snip
Thanks for the info. I'm counting daily steps (6000
average) and hitting the treadmill (2, 20 min miles) at
least 3X/week. I got attacked by an Indian buffet and 2
cookies during a business conference yesterday. Today
we're having the TG Potluck in the office. Everyone
waits to see what "the chef" will bring.

This time it's vegetable-cornbread dressing (from the
ideas discussed on A.S.D.) and roasted-garlic mashed
cauliflower. If it's successful I'll write up the recipe
for the dressing and post it.

The cauliflower recipe is available at:
http://www.bigoven.com/recipe159985




The cauliflower sounds good - but I'd stay away from the
cornbread since it can be high in sugar plus it has plain
white flour. Looking at some recipes, a serving is about
30 grams of carbs. Unless you can find a low-carb
version of cornbread, of course. (Love the stuff and
crave good cornbread dripping with butter and
honey.......)

Taking another look at the cauliflower recipe - I see
there's a smidgen of potato flakes in it. That sounds
even tastier yet!

Sherry

Keep in mind that this was a dish for a group of office folks. While it was
lower in carbs than traditional dressing it wasn't intended for diabetic
diners. The folks cleared out both the dressing and the cauliflower.

I held out fairly well with mostly "good" choices until later in the
afternoon. a medium brownie w/ no frosting) kept calling out softly, "I'm
here! Come eat me!". So, extra time on the treadmill this evening and
lower-than-average diet tomorrow.

--
Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org

Sherry wrote:

"Pete Romfh" wrote in
:

snip
Thanks for the info. I'm counting daily steps (6000 average) and
hitting the treadmill (2, 20 min miles) at least 3X/week.
I got attacked by an Indian buffet and 2 cookies during a business
conference yesterday. Today we're having the TG Potluck in the
office. Everyone waits to see what "the chef" will bring.

This time it's vegetable-cornbread dressing (from the ideas
discussed on A.S.D.) and roasted-garlic mashed cauliflower.
If it's successful I'll write up the recipe for the dressing and
post it.

The cauliflower recipe is available at:
http://www.bigoven.com/recipe159985

The cauliflower sounds good - but I'd stay away from the cornbread
since it can be high in sugar plus it has plain white flour. Looking
at some recipes, a serving is about 30 grams of carbs. Unless you can
find a low-carb version of cornbread, of course. (Love the stuff and
crave good cornbread dripping with butter and honey.......)

Taking another look at the cauliflower recipe - I see there's a smidgen
of potato flakes in it. That sounds even tastier yet!

Sherry

Real southern cornbread doesn't have sugar or flour.

2 cups cornmeal
2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 beaten eggs
2 cups buttermilk (no substitutions)
2 tablespoons melted bacon drippings, veg. oil or melted butter

Heat oven to 450. Grease a well-seasoned 9 inch cast iron skillet with 2
tablespoons oil or bacon drippings. Leave oil in bottom of pan. Place
pan in oven to heat. Combine ingredients using the muffin method and mix
well. Pour into hot skillet. Batter will sizzle. Bake at 450 for 35
minutes or until golden brown. For a crispier bottom crust, sprinkle a
little cornmeal into pan before adding batter. Serves 6 to 8

Muffin method: Combine dry ingredients, mix. Combine wet ingredients,
mix. Add wet to dry and mix.

8 servings with 30 grams carbs per serving. Cornbread has enough
character that 'cutting' it with low-carb veggies is a great way to go
for stuffing. Even saturated with liquid, it holds its own.

---

Using the potato flakes in the cauliflower gives it a more potato-y
mouth feel. Low carbers achieve the same result by adding full fat cream
cheese, about 4 oz. per head of cauliflower.

Vicki