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Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'



 
 
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:15 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:32 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

On 05 May 2008 07:15:59 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


Make up your own sauce. I use a very simple one - commercial
full-fat old-fashioned mayo (egg and oil) mixed in equal
parts with plain home-made yoghurt, season with cracked
pepper, mix with the sliced cabbage and shredded carrot.

Your dim sums, if they are like the ones down here, are
likely to be encased in a dumpling. That's more of a problem
than the sauces.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
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and Cambodia
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:32 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

On 05 May 2008 07:15:59 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


Dim sum with sweet sauce
poor food for diabetics
coleslaw with sugar?

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:15 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that
other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


The coleslaw would probably be fine if subbed the sugar in the dressing with
splenda. The culprit was the dim sum, I personally would not be having even
one.


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Old 05-05-2008, 09:16 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Ozgirl
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

I didn't see the "sauces" first time round. Just use a bit of soy and some
wasabi for dipping, but still keep away from the dim sums

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that
other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~



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Old 05-05-2008, 09:58 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Alan S
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:32:51 +0100, Nicky
wrote:

On 05 May 2008 07:15:59 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


Dim sum with sweet sauce
poor food for diabetics
coleslaw with sugar?


An American thing. Surprised me too when I was there. I had
forgotten what KFC coleslaw, my only previous experience of
US-style slaw sauce, did to my BGs when I was first testing.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:17 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

Alan S wrote:
wrote:

FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186.
Four hour 159. ;-( []

Make up your own sauce. I use a very simple one - commercial
full-fat old-fashioned mayo (egg and oil) mixed in equal
parts with plain home-made yoghurt, season with cracked
pepper, mix with the sliced cabbage and shredded carrot.

Your dim sums, if they are like the ones down here, are
likely to be encased in a dumpling. That's more of a problem
than the sauces.


Yes. Perhaps a taro dough, from the consistancy. That's about what I'd do,
if I was making my own coleslaw, although I'd use sour cream instead of
yoghurt.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:18 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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Alan S wrote:
wrote:

FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186.
Four hour 159. ;-( []

Make up your own sauce. I use a very simple one - commercial
full-fat old-fashioned mayo (egg and oil) mixed in equal
parts with plain home-made yoghurt, season with cracked
pepper, mix with the sliced cabbage and shredded carrot.

Your dim sums, if they are like the ones down here, are
likely to be encased in a dumpling. That's more of a problem
than the sauces.


Yes. Perhaps a taro dough, from the consistancy. That's about what I'd do,
if I was making my own coleslaw, although I'd use sour cream instead of
yoghurt.


I use plain ranch dressing for coleslaw.


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Old 05-05-2008, 10:19 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

Nicky wrote:
On 05 May 2008 07:15:59 GMT, Nick Cramer


Dim sum with sweet sauce
poor food for diabetics
coleslaw with sugar?


groan I'm learning. Not too slowly, I hope. ;-(

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:23 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Ozgirl" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message


FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?).
The sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour
186. Four hour 159. ;-(

[ . . . ]
The coleslaw would probably be fine if subbed the sugar in the dressing
with splenda. The culprit was the dim sum, I personally would not be
having even one.


Thanks, Ozgirl. The coleslaw came with the dressing and it had been so
long . . .

I think you're right about the dim sum, too. Maybe a half, next time.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:36 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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Default Dim sum & Japanese coleslaw 'snack'

"Ozgirl" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message

[]
The coleslaw would probably be fine if subbed the sugar in the dressing
with splenda. The culprit was the dim sum, I personally would not be
having even one.


I also have this, which I haven't tried yet, from another cyberfriend:

Cole Slaw, Becky's

There really are no set measurements in this recipe, though. I start with
about a cup of Hellman's mayo, add enough apple cider vinegar to make it
very creamy when whisked (maybe between 1/4-1/3 cup), dry mustard, celery
seed, Tabasco, and a bit of Splenda (or sugar, maybe 1/4 teaspoon or more).
Then it's just shredded cabbage, red bell pepper, and Italian parsley.
Dressing poured over, and tossed. It's better the next day!

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:16 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message

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The coleslaw would probably be fine if subbed the sugar in the dressing
with splenda. The culprit was the dim sum, I personally would not be
having even one.


I also have this, which I haven't tried yet, from another cyberfriend:

Cole Slaw, Becky's

There really are no set measurements in this recipe, though. I start with
about a cup of Hellman's mayo, add enough apple cider vinegar to make it
very creamy when whisked (maybe between 1/4-1/3 cup), dry mustard, celery
seed, Tabasco, and a bit of Splenda (or sugar, maybe 1/4 teaspoon or
more).
Then it's just shredded cabbage, red bell pepper, and Italian parsley.
Dressing poured over, and tossed. It's better the next day!


That would be wonderful!


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Old 05-05-2008, 04:12 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that
other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


I can not do Japanese coleslaw. I think it has a ton of sugar in it or
something.


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Old 05-05-2008, 04:14 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Julie Bove
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"Alan S" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:32:51 +0100, Nicky
wrote:

On 05 May 2008 07:15:59 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


Dim sum with sweet sauce
poor food for diabetics
coleslaw with sugar?


An American thing. Surprised me too when I was there. I had
forgotten what KFC coleslaw, my only previous experience of
US-style slaw sauce, did to my BGs when I was first testing.


We have many different kinds of coleslaw and it's not always sweet. But most
of it is.


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Old 05-05-2008, 04:15 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Julie Bove
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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FBG 88. Had a snack of dim sum and Japanese cole slaw* (Sunomono?). The
sauces were sweet. One hour PP BG 158. Two hour 240! Three hour 186. Four
hour 159. ;-(

Well, I thought I had exercised portion control. Three dim sum. One with
spinach filling, one Mung beans and one incognito. Three tablespoons of
coleslaw. Next time, one dim sum and no coleslaw. I was gonna have steak
for dinner. I guess I'll skip it and have it tomorrow instead of that
other
'stuff'. Or just commit seppuku.

*Japanese cole slaw Haiku

Cabbage head, solo,
or tangled up with spirals
of blushing carrot.


The coleslaw would probably be fine if subbed the sugar in the dressing
with splenda. The culprit was the dim sum, I personally would not be
having even one.


That doesn't always work. I have tried that many times and it often has a
bad, bitter aftertaste. Something with the Splenda reacting with the
cabbage I think.


 




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