Nicky wrote in message ...speaking of Neanderthin

That book's been on my wish-list for ages, and keeps getting
superceded by other things - is it worth moving it up the priority?

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Honestly Nicky, there's nothing in the book that you don't already
know about nutrition. Neanderthin adds fruits, but doesn't allow any
type of processed foods whatsoever, no artificial sweeteners, no
coffee, no dairy etc., which would be very hard for me to follow: I
would have a hard time giving up coffee, and all dairy products as
well. :-)

The list of things you CAN'T have on the diet:

Grains, corn, wheat, barley, rye, rice, oats, millet, and all products
made from them.

Beans, including all varieties of hard beans, lima beans, green beans,
wax been, peas peanuts, chocolate, soy, fava beans and all products
made from them.

Potatoes, all varieties, yams, beets, taro cassava, turnips, and all
products made from them.

Dairy, milk, cheese, yougurt, whey, butter, and all products made from
them, no matter what kind of animal milk was used to produce them.

Coffee, not advised, even caffeine free.

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:53:45 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom
wrote:

Dairy, milk, cheese, yougurt, whey, butter, and all products made from
them, no matter what kind of animal milk was used to produce them.

Coffee, not advised, even caffeine free.

Urr! You're right, no way am I giving up coffee or cheese, yoghurt,
butter, cream... OK, thanks, I'll continue to ignore the book

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:04:47 -0500, Andy q wrote:

Alan S said...

What do you eat for breakfast? And what numbers do you get?


I used to eat dinner for breakfast!!!

This AM:

FBG 98 mg/dl

Canned tuna (2 oz.) mixed with garlic hummus with sharp cheddar cheese on
whole grain/whole wheat toast, grilled cheesed in safflower oil.

1PP 130 mg/dl
2PP 111 mg/dl

Andy

Cut the toast in half and you'll be under 120 at 1PP:-)

While I agree with your choices, I'm surprised you thought
Nick's was unusual.

You may like this.

In a small skillet I saute in EVOO some chopped ginger,
onion and garlic, add some stir-fry mix
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...salad-mix.html
and gently cook until soft. While that's happening I beat
one egg (sometimes two) and add a pinch of turmeric, a
grating of black pepper and a slosh of fish sauce to the egg
mix. I drain and empty an 85gm can of tuna into the veges
and heat through, then add the egg mix and lightly cover
with grated cheese. It goes under the grill(broiler to you)
until the cheese bubbles and browns.

Usually the 1PP is much the same, or less, than fasting.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

Alan S said...

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:04:47 -0500, Andy q wrote:

Alan S said...

What do you eat for breakfast? And what numbers do you get?


I used to eat dinner for breakfast!!!

This AM:

FBG 98 mg/dl

Canned tuna (2 oz.) mixed with garlic hummus with sharp cheddar cheese on
whole grain/whole wheat toast, grilled cheesed in safflower oil.

1PP 130 mg/dl
2PP 111 mg/dl

Andy

Cut the toast in half and you'll be under 120 at 1PP:-)


Alan,

I do open-faced sandwiches alot. I splurge every so often! :9



While I agree with your choices, I'm surprised you thought
Nick's was unusual.

You may like this.

snipped for brevity


Nick is consuming an enormous amount of saturated fat. I can't handle that
type of fat intake.

Andy

"Andy" q wrote in message ...
Alan S said...

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:04:47 -0500, Andy q wrote:

Alan S said...

What do you eat for breakfast? And what numbers do you get?


I used to eat dinner for breakfast!!!

This AM:

FBG 98 mg/dl

Canned tuna (2 oz.) mixed with garlic hummus with sharp cheddar cheese on
whole grain/whole wheat toast, grilled cheesed in safflower oil.

1PP 130 mg/dl
2PP 111 mg/dl

Andy

Cut the toast in half and you'll be under 120 at 1PP:-)


Alan,

I do open-faced sandwiches alot. I splurge every so often! :9



While I agree with your choices, I'm surprised you thought
Nick's was unusual.

You may like this.

snipped for brevity


Nick is consuming an enormous amount of saturated fat. I can't handle that
type of fat intake.

He had grilled chicken, you had cheese?

On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:13:59 +1000, "Ozgirl"
wrote:


"Andy" q wrote in message ...
Alan S said...

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:04:47 -0500, Andy q wrote:

Alan S said...

What do you eat for breakfast? And what numbers do you get?


I used to eat dinner for breakfast!!!

This AM:

FBG 98 mg/dl

Canned tuna (2 oz.) mixed with garlic hummus with sharp cheddar cheese on
whole grain/whole wheat toast, grilled cheesed in safflower oil.

1PP 130 mg/dl
2PP 111 mg/dl

Andy

Cut the toast in half and you'll be under 120 at 1PP:-)


Alan,

I do open-faced sandwiches alot. I splurge every so often! :9



While I agree with your choices, I'm surprised you thought
Nick's was unusual.

You may like this.

snipped for brevity


Nick is consuming an enormous amount of saturated fat. I can't handle that
type of fat intake.

He had grilled chicken, you had cheese?


I wandered back through some posts; couldn't find all that
sat fat.

But then, I consider duck confit as gourmet health food...


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

Cheri wrote:
Nicky wrote in message ...speaking of Neanderthin

That book's been on my wish-list for ages, and keeps getting
superceded by other things - is it worth moving it up the priority?

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Honestly Nicky, there's nothing in the book that you don't already
know about nutrition. Neanderthin adds fruits, but doesn't allow any
type of processed foods whatsoever, no artificial sweeteners, no
coffee, no dairy etc., which would be very hard for me to follow: I
would have a hard time giving up coffee, and all dairy products as
well. :-)

The list of things you CAN'T have on the diet:

Grains, corn, wheat, barley, rye, rice, oats, millet, and all products
made from them.

Beans, including all varieties of hard beans, lima beans, green beans,
wax been, peas peanuts, chocolate, soy, fava beans and all products
made from them.

Potatoes, all varieties, yams, beets, taro cassava, turnips, and all
products made from them.

Dairy, milk, cheese, yougurt, whey, butter, and all products made from
them, no matter what kind of animal milk was used to produce them.

Coffee, not advised, even caffeine free.



Now we know why the Neanderthals didn't survive. (just joking)

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Janet Wilder wrote in message speaking of all the things you can't
have on Neanderthin.

Now we know why the Neanderthals didn't survive. (just joking)

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

LOL

Cheri

On Thu, 01 May 2008 10:29:55 +1000, Alan S
wrote:

But then, I consider duck confit as gourmet health food...

ROFL - duck confit and salad, please

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Oh im a by eye sorta cook..if i had to nail it down..two cups carblose and
salt and yeast and a tablspoon oilive oil in food processor for fast or by
hand for slow needing...till u get the baby bottom feel and put it into a
oiled bowl to raise..then make into small serving size rounds and wrap in
plastic wrap and freez till needed..i make very very thin pizzas in a very
hot oven..much as alan recomends on his blog...he uses real flour i believe
and even that doesnt spike me if its thin and right time of the the the
carbalose definatly doesnt spike me and i actually went from 89 to 69..and
stayd low all day..prob too much cheese and beef on it....and my systemn
decided to work for a change..too well..lol..but as always test test test
all day to see if theres sneak rises later etc.

KROM

"Nicky" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:04 -0500, "krom"
wrote:

i made pizza with carabloos flour and homemade sauce..pre was 96..post
was
100..then was low rest of the day..lol..was good eatin!

Recipe? I've just gotten hold of a big bag of carbalose flour, and
want to play : )

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

netrition.com...best site on the net for diabetics and body builders and
healthy types..lol

i loooove erythritol sugar sub and xylitol in my coffee and the carbalose
stuff like carb quick bisquit mix....wonder if they ship to yer heathen
lands?..lol

KROM -- kids cause he luvs...lol

"Ozgirl" wrote in message
...

"krom" wrote in message
...
i made pizza with carabloos flour

Hehe, took me a bit to translate that

LOL..my wife thinks im sick if i fry bacon i save the greese and later on
make vinagrette with it and good balsmic...yum!

She about gags at the thought..lol..heaven to me!
She also thinks cheese on burgers and in salads is gross sooooo..heh..we do
the jack sprat thing..lol..she eats the lean of porkchops and gives me the
yummy bits and bone..she also is adversed to marrow..i love the stuff.


KROM

"Nicky" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 May 2008 10:29:55 +1000, Alan S
wrote:

But then, I consider duck confit as gourmet health food...

ROFL - duck confit and salad, please

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Bad for you maybe..great for others..she always says what works for you do
whats doesnt dont..so no issue there ..

KROM

"Andy" q wrote
Some people like
Susan can be so full of bad advice sometimes!

Andy

"krom" wrote:
i made pizza with carabloos flour and homemade sauce..pre was 96..post
was 100..then was low rest of the day..lol..was good eatin!

How was the crust with that 'carabloos' flour, Krom? What was your crust
recipe? Thanks.

Take care.

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Alan S wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:31:27 -0500, Andy q wrote:
Nick Cramer said...
[ . . . ]
Sounds like a good brekky to me. I've certainly had stranger
over the past few weeks. And it seemed like a good one for
Nick's BG's.

What do you eat for breakfast? And what numbers do you get?

I've kf's Andy everywhere I've run across him, Alan. The occasional quotes
I see from him are of no cansequence to me.

Take care.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~