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Old 29-04-2008, 12:31 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
Oleg Lego[_2_]
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Default Chana Dal question


On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:27:46 GMT, Julie Bove posted:


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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:22:09 GMT, Julie Bove posted:


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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:04:01 GMT, Julie Bove posted:


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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling
it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me know
how
it goes!

KROM

Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.

I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.

They are nothing at all like lentils.

http://www.mendosa.com/chanadal.html

It's not a chickpea either. I quote, "This bean looks just like yellow
split peas, but is quite different because it doesn't readily boil down to
mush. It's more closely related to garbanzo beans, or chickpeas. The
differences are that chana dal is younger, smaller, split, sweeter, and
has
a much lower glycemic index. But you can substitute chana dal for garbanzo
beans in just about any recipe. "


The ones I bought at an Indian market were sold as Chana Dal, and were
chick peas.


I've been looking this up and all I get is conflicting information. One
website said it was chickpeas with the outer part removed. It even told you
how to do this. Other sites say it is a lentil.


Yes, there are definitely conflicts. The thing is, though, the ones I
have bought look like chick peas (aka garbanzo beans), and not like
lentils.

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Old 29-04-2008, 05:13 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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Default Chana Dal question

"krom" wrote:
ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me
know how it goes!


"Nick Cramer" wrote in message

[]
http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com/...an%20Flour.htm

http://mendosa.com/chanadal.html


Will do, Krom. It's also called Bengal gram. If I find it, I'll be glad to
mail you some, if you're in the USA.

Take care.

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Old 29-04-2008, 05:41 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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Default Chana Dal question

Oleg Lego wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me
know how it goes!


Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.


At this point, I'm not sure that they're identical.

Chickpeas are legumes used in the cuisines of South Asia, the Middle East,
and the Mediterranean. They provide high-quality carbohydrates and protein,
are recommended for diabetics, and are credited by some as the key to
development of human civilisation through agriculture.

There are two main types:

* Kabuli - European chickpeas, ceci, or garbanzo beans, are large,
white chickpeas that are much used throughout southern Europe and the
Middle East, but are also used in Indian cuisine for making dahls.
These chickpeas are used interchangeably with fava beans for making
falafel and hoummus (hoummus means chickpea in Arabic). Chickpeas are
ground finely to make chickpea flour. * Desi - Bengal gram, chana, or
kadalai (Tamil), are much more common in South Asian cuisine. Grinding
chana to a flour makes besan or gram flour.

Chana dal or channa dhal are split, usually also hulled (skinless)
chickpeas used in dals. The term nearly always refers to the Desi, but
sometimes also to the Kabuli - usually though, Kabuli dal are called Kabuli
chana dal. In Tamil, chana dal is called kadalai parrappu. They are often
cooked with a pinch of asafoetida to make them more easy to digest.

Garbanzo beans are readily available here in SoCal. Hmm!

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Old 29-04-2008, 05:44 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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dumb_fishie99 wrote:
Guys, it's not a wonder food. It's about on the level of lentils, in
fact, it is a lentil:

http://www.tarladalal.com/GlossaryDi...d=471&Typ=Cook

I want lentils too. I would not sit down and eat a whole pile of them.


Lentils sure make a good soup!

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Old 29-04-2008, 05:47 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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dumb_fishie99 wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:46=A0am, Nick Cramer wrote:
[]
http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com/...an%20Flour.htm

http://mendosa.com/chanadal.html


Nick, that Mendosa guy also thinks that a white potato has complex
carbs.


OK, thanks. Potatoes sure are safer than rice, for me. ;-/

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Old 29-04-2008, 08:24 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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Default Chana Dal question

On 29 Apr 2008 04:41:02 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Oleg Lego wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me
know how it goes!


Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.


At this point, I'm not sure that they're identical.

Chickpeas are legumes used in the cuisines of South Asia, the Middle East,
and the Mediterranean. They provide high-quality carbohydrates and protein,
are recommended for diabetics, and are credited by some as the key to
development of human civilisation through agriculture.

There are two main types:

* Kabuli - European chickpeas, ceci, or garbanzo beans, are large,
white chickpeas that are much used throughout southern Europe and the
Middle East, but are also used in Indian cuisine for making dahls.
These chickpeas are used interchangeably with fava beans for making
falafel and hoummus (hoummus means chickpea in Arabic). Chickpeas are
ground finely to make chickpea flour. * Desi - Bengal gram, chana, or
kadalai (Tamil), are much more common in South Asian cuisine. Grinding
chana to a flour makes besan or gram flour.


A Dahl is simply a soupy gravy made with a legume, in Indian cuisine.
You can make dahl with lentils, chickpeas, anything that comes to
hand.

The quote Nick's found, pointing you at Desi, is what Mendosa's
talking about when he talks about Chana dahl.

This is how I use it - delicious - feel free to swap out the obvious
no-nos in the veg list, and add in whatever you enjoy. Plain curry
powder is also a fair replacement for the whole spices. You may or may
not need water to mix, depending on how watery your grated veg turn
out to be. The mix should not be dry, and should stick together, but
is thicker than a batter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/da...on_12732.shtml

Served with a recipe like this (generally with parsley instead of
beans) and a salad, it's a great family-pleasing meal.
http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/24078/

Nicky.
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D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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Old 29-04-2008, 12:04 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
krom
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Default Chana Dal question

yep its a lentil yelow lookin but ive only got brown here in my stores..and
they spike me..

KROM

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me know
how
it goes!

KROM


Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.


I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.



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Old 29-04-2008, 12:08 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
krom
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Sure if we can agree on what it is first..LOL

Ive read its a tiny bean like a small yellow lentil..and now others are
saying its a garbonzo and otheres a split pea....grrrr...

KROM

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"krom" wrote:
ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me
know how it goes!


"Nick Cramer" wrote in message

[]
http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com/...an%20Flour.htm

http://mendosa.com/chanadal.html


Will do, Krom. It's also called Bengal gram. If I find it, I'll be glad to
mail you some, if you're in the USA.

Take care.

--
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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~



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Old 29-04-2008, 12:13 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
Nick Cramer
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"krom" wrote:
Sure if we can agree on what it is first..LOL

Ive read its a tiny bean like a small yellow lentil..and now others are
saying its a garbonzo and otheres a split pea....grrrr...


"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
"krom" wrote:

[]
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message

[]
http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com/...an%20Flour.htm

http://mendosa.com/chanadal.html


Will do, Krom. It's also called Bengal gram. If I find it, I'll be glad
to mail you some, if you're in the USA.


It's Dal, not Dahl. I've been trying to remember where that Indian store
was. It's been a while. ;-/

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Old 29-04-2008, 06:23 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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On 4/29/08 4:04 AM, in article , "krom"
wrote:

yep its a lentil yelow lookin but ive only got brown here in my stores..and
they spike me..

KROM

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:BHlRj.6737$r12.1480@trndny03...

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me know
how
it goes!

KROM

Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.


I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.



When we lived in California (before the flood), you could buy the white ones
in cans labeled garbanzo beans. Maybe you still can.

--
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:58 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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On 29 Apr 2008 11:13:38 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

It's Dal, not Dahl. I've been trying to remember where that Indian store
was. It's been a while. ;-/


No, it's either one.

Nicky.
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D&E, 100ug thyroxine
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:17 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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"MI" wrote in message
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On 4/29/08 4:04 AM, in article , "krom"
wrote:

yep its a lentil yelow lookin but ive only got brown here in my
stores..and
they spike me..

KROM

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:BHlRj.6737$r12.1480@trndny03...

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling
it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me know
how
it goes!

KROM

Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.

I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.



When we lived in California (before the flood), you could buy the white
ones
in cans labeled garbanzo beans. Maybe you still can.


The Chana Dal was labeled as Garbanzo Beans?


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Old 29-04-2008, 11:18 PM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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"Nicky" wrote in message
...
On 29 Apr 2008 11:13:38 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

It's Dal, not Dahl. I've been trying to remember where that Indian store
was. It's been a while. ;-/


No, it's either one.


Oh sure. Make us even MORE confused. Now watch somebody say it could also
be Channa!


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Old 30-04-2008, 04:54 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
MI
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On 4/29/08 3:17 PM, in article 18NRj.1155$Bd1.870@trndny09, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


"MI" wrote in message
...



On 4/29/08 4:04 AM, in article , "krom"
wrote:

yep its a lentil yelow lookin but ive only got brown here in my
stores..and
they spike me..

KROM

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:BHlRj.6737$r12.1480@trndny03...

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores selling
it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me know
how
it goes!

KROM

Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.

I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.



When we lived in California (before the flood), you could buy the white
ones
in cans labeled garbanzo beans. Maybe you still can.


The Chana Dal was labeled as Garbanzo Beans?


Someone in an earlier post stated that white dal in some places was called
garbanzo beans. I just pointed out that you could buy garbanzo beans in a
can as he could not fine white dal.

--
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1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

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Old 30-04-2008, 04:58 AM posted to alt.support.diabetes,alt.food.diabetic
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"MI" wrote in message
...



On 4/29/08 3:17 PM, in article 18NRj.1155$Bd1.870@trndny09, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


"MI" wrote in message
...



On 4/29/08 4:04 AM, in article , "krom"
wrote:

yep its a lentil yelow lookin but ive only got brown here in my
stores..and
they spike me..

KROM

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:BHlRj.6737$r12.1480@trndny03...

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:42:43 -0500, krom posted:

ive been very interested in it but have found no local stores
selling
it
and
no online stores im familliar with i.e trust with my info..let me
know
how
it goes!

KROM

Chana Dal is chick peas with the seed coat removed.

I don't think so. I think it's a type of lentil.



When we lived in California (before the flood), you could buy the white
ones
in cans labeled garbanzo beans. Maybe you still can.


The Chana Dal was labeled as Garbanzo Beans?


Someone in an earlier post stated that white dal in some places was called
garbanzo beans. I just pointed out that you could buy garbanzo beans in a
can as he could not fine white dal.


But I still don't think they are the same thing. Garbanzo Beans are not
purported to have the same G.I.


 




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