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Old 20-04-2008, 07:44 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Karl[_4_]
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Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her
starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told she's
diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried
though) and they had carb counts of like 30.

What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?

Thanks


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Old 20-04-2008, 10:38 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:44:57 -0400, "Karl" wrote:

Hey I have a FEW dumb questions.


The dumb questions are the ones you don't ask.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried
though) and they had carb counts of like 30.


Dried beans are better than canned - better Glycemic Load. Does she
use pasta sheets? Will she test her blood glucose? Each of us react
differently to foods, so no-one will be able to say exactly how your
Mom will react. For me, I use aubergine or zucchini instead of pasta.
Beans sound like a nice addition, I might give them a try... is she
vegetarian? Lower carb can be complicated if she is...

What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?


That depends on the bread she uses, how much, and how she reacts...
Are you in the US? I like Lavash bread, which I can occasionally buy
here in England.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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Old 20-04-2008, 10:47 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Karl[_4_]
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"Nicky" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:44:57 -0400, "Karl" wrote:

Hey I have a FEW dumb questions.


The dumb questions are the ones you don't ask.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried
though) and they had carb counts of like 30.


Dried beans are better than canned - better Glycemic Load. Does she
use pasta sheets? Will she test her blood glucose? Each of us react
differently to foods, so no-one will be able to say exactly how your
Mom will react. For me, I use aubergine or zucchini instead of pasta.
Beans sound like a nice addition, I might give them a try... is she
vegetarian? Lower carb can be complicated if she is...


She isn't a vegetarian. But she stays away from beef. She isn't going to
test
her blood the doctor just told to cut back on the starches since she is 74
and
her blood sugar was borderline.


What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?


That depends on the bread she uses, how much, and how she reacts...
Are you in the US? I like Lavash bread, which I can occasionally buy
here in England.


Yeah I am in the US. Actually I make my own bread which she loves. I
started making
whole wheat bread and she slices it real thin now and she likes it.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25



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Old 20-04-2008, 11:09 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
Julie Bove
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"Karl" wrote in message ...
Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her
starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told
she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried
though) and they had carb counts of like 30.

What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?


What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told that.
Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason, be given
the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own blood
sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is "bad" for
her or not.

Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So
does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else.
And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back on.
Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other foods.
Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are starchy.


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Old 21-04-2008, 12:06 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to
cut back on starches

What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut

back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was

told that.
Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason,

be given
the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own

blood
sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is

"bad" for
her or not.



You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a
reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or
prediabetes, they should be advising her to test.

Cheri


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Old 21-04-2008, 02:03 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:CaPOj.2769$y63.800@trndny02...

"Karl" wrote in message ...
Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her
starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told
she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes dried
though) and they had carb counts of like 30.

What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?


What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told
that. Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason,
be given the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her
own blood sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what
is "bad" for her or not.

Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So
does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else.
And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back on.
Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other foods.
Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are starchy.


She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting higher.
She's 74 and he just told her to
cut back on the starches.

I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself.


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Old 21-04-2008, 02:04 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message
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Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to
cut back on starches

What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut

back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was

told that.
Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason,

be given
the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own

blood
sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is

"bad" for
her or not.



You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a
reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or
prediabetes, they should be advising her to test.

Cheri


I have her bring it up when she goes talks to her doctor.


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Old 21-04-2008, 04:56 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Karl" wrote in message ...

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
news:CaPOj.2769$y63.800@trndny02...

"Karl" wrote in message ...
Hey I have a FEW dumb questions. My Mom just the word to cut back her
starches since her blood sugar is getting high. She hasn't been told
she's diabetic but I thought someone could answer a few questions.

First are dried beans bad? She like to makes lasagna with smashed Pinto
beans, ricotta cheese, cheddar cheese and the usual tomotoe sauces.. no
meat. But I was looking at the beans in stores in cans ( she likes
dried though) and they had carb counts of like 30.

What about bread. If she eats a sandwich is that bad?


What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was told
that. Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason,
be given the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test
her own blood sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know
what is "bad" for her or not.

Every body is different. I find potatoes and beans work well for me. So
does some bread. But what works for me might not work for someone else.
And in fact it usually doesn't. It's also carbs she needs to cut back
on. Not just starches. There are carbs in milk, fruit, juice and other
foods. Vegetables contain carbs but in a lesser amount, unless they are
starchy.


She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting
higher. She's 74 and he just told her to
cut back on the starches.

I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself.


Sounds like the Dr. is treating her like she is an idiot senior citizen who
most likely wouldn't be compliant if he did tell her to test her blood.
Unfortunately this is very common.


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Old 21-04-2008, 04:57 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"Karl" wrote in message ...

"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message
...

Julie Bove wrote in message ...speaking of doctors telling someone to
cut back on starches

What's bad is the advice she was given. Not that it's bad to cut

back on
carbs, but because it is so vague. She needs to know why she was

told that.
Does she have diabetes? Prediabates? She needs to know the reason,

be given
the appropriate testing and follow-up and use a meter to test her own

blood
sugar at home. Until she tests herself she will not know what is

"bad" for
her or not.



You said what I was getting ready to say. Surely they gave her a
reason for cutting back on starches, and if the reason was diabetes or
prediabetes, they should be advising her to test.

Cheri


I have her bring it up when she goes talks to her doctor.


She needs to bring it up right away and not wait. If she has diabetes,
there is the potential for her to have a hypo and this could be dangerous.
She needs to have a way to monitor herself.


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Old 21-04-2008, 06:54 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Karl wrote:


: She isn't a vegetarian. But she stays away from beef. She isn't going to
: test
: her blood the doctor just told to cut back on the starches since she is 74
: and
: her blood sugar was borderline.

How about chicken and fish? These she might find acceptible. Also, if
she is worried about fat, try very lean beef. If she wants, she can buy
lean beef and grind i t herself for hamburger so she knows what she is
getting. There is also bison in many stores, which is expremely lean, if
a bit pricy.

personally, I am less worried about the fat thenan the cbs in my diet. but
if she is concerned, find lean meats to use in her diet.

Wendy
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Old 21-04-2008, 06:59 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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Karl wrote:

: She just went to the doctor and he said her blood sugar was getting higher.
: She's 74 and he just told her to
: cut back on the starches.

: I guess she should ask her doctor if she shouold start testing herself.

karl, I am 72 and proactive with my diabees. Sometimes doctors don't wat
to worry older people or think they are too old, simple, etc. to make a
proactive change in her life. I don't know if this is the case with you
mother, but it is something to be aware of. Don't let her be talked down
to. In tis ay and age she has a good chance of living happily for many
years and she needn't develpop full blown diabetes if she is able to lower
her blood ugar with diet adn exercise now. A meter will halp her adn even
if the doctor doesn't want to worry her with all that testing, get one
like tthe Walmart one which is cheaper if she doesn't get it from her
insurance.

Wendy

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Old 22-04-2008, 03:37 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"krom" wrote in message
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One touch and contour gives em away free on thier websites..


Oh I have the free one. My problem is, I just don't like it.


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Old 23-04-2008, 05:39 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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"krom" wrote:
One touch and contour gives em away free on thier websites..


I have a One Touch Ultra. I traded in my old meter and they sent it free.
They also paid the shipping for the old meter return. I'm quite pleased
with it.

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Old 23-04-2008, 08:21 AM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:18:11 GMT, "Zareth"
wrote:

As far as bread goes, wheat bread is a much healthier option.


Only if your meter says so - no difference between white and whole
grain in bg response for me.

I can occasionally buy low-carb bread, but usually make my own - I
don;t eat much any more. Low carb bagels are good to have in the
freezer, for when I have a lox-and-bagel urge : )

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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Old 24-04-2008, 12:03 PM posted to alt.food.diabetic
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I went from a ultra smart to the min..love that thing!

KROM

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"krom" wrote:
One touch and contour gives em away free on thier websites..


I have a One Touch Ultra. I traded in my old meter and they sent it free.
They also paid the shipping for the old meter return. I'm quite pleased
with it.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~



 




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