"Anna" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

Anna wrote:

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Anna,

Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch
with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit
from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a
specially trained nutritionist.

My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a
well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator.

Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome"
where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a
one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in
the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done
for you, then perhaps you will learn something here.

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS.

So is my doctor and he would never advocate more carbs than I can handle
without spiking.

All
the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

No, the ADA advice sucks big time. They ar ein the business of keeping
diabetics ina poor state of health.

We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to
travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't
cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an
hour.

And still get the same shitty advice you are getting from your nurse. Do
yourself a favour and use your meter to the best of its abilities because
right now it seems it is all you have got.

"Nicky" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:57:04 -0900, Anna
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:21 am, Anna wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna
wrote:

I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she
had
no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
rarely am over over 115.

When do you test?

I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
I just work up and took it and it is 94.
I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
do it.

You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
I had a cat, that is.

Nicky.

--Bryan

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Uh - check who you're insulting.

Anna is quite naive and uninformed about life in general it seems.

Janet Wilder wrote:
: Anna wrote:

: My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All
: the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
: so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
: ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
: the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

: Personally, I wouldn't. The ADA is notorious for their concentration on
: low-fat and not on the carbohydrates which are the things that make the
: blood glucose numbers high.

: I have plenty of ADA recipes that are so high in carbs that they are
: laughable. Desserts that are 45 grams of carbs (the entire 3 carb-count
: servings permitted in your diet).

: The ADA does some good things and we have been members for many, many
: years, but their recipes are silly.
: --
: Janet Wilder

My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just
ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they
are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very
heavy manual labor.

Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb
units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take
ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of
amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic
complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d
that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my
guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and
stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood).

Wendy

"W. Baker" wrote in message
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My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just
ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they
are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very
heavy manual labor.

Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb
units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take
ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of
amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic
complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d
that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my
guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and
stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood).

I've been told that those recipes are intended for people with type 1 who
can shoot insulin to cover the carbs they eat.

In article ,
Anna wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

Anna wrote:

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Anna,

Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch
with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit
from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a
specially trained nutritionist.

My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a
well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator.

Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome"
where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a
one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in
the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done
for you, then perhaps you will learn something here.

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All
the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

No. The ADA is a surprisingly bad source of information for type 2
diabetics. Or are you type 1? You haven't given us any information to
go on.

We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to
travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't
cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an
hour.

Priscilla, T2, diet & exercise

Julie Bove wrote:
"W. Baker" wrote in message
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My dietician, who was no low carber, used to say that you have to just
ignore he recipes in the ADA lay magazine, Diabetes Forcast because they
are all too high in carbs fo rany but diabetics who are engaged in very
heavy manual labor.

Were I to eat the amounts you have had recommended to you, 12 15 gram carb
units a day, I would have such high bg numbers that I would have to take
ffar mor meds than the 1000mgs twice a day of Metformin EX and 1 mg of
amaryl at night to keep myself from having all kinds of diabetic
complications. For me, she recommended 8 15 gram cab units and I foun d
that too much fo rme to handle, so cut back further using my meter as my
guide, checking FBG and after meal readings. In am 20 years a type 2 and
stil wilthout such complications(knock on wood).

I've been told that those recipes are intended for people with type 1 who
can shoot insulin to cover the carbs they eat.


That would be a whole lot of insulin! There has to be a calculation of
carbs being eaten and blood glucose level made for the bolus. Type 1s
have to watch their carbs, too.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Anna wrote:

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS.

Yeah, endos do not just deal with diabetics though; diabetes is the most
common, but not the only endocrine disorder.

All
the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her.

If it were me, I'd check with the AACE rather than the ADA. The AACE is
an association of professional endocrinologists, not just a random group
of whomevers.

The AACE guidelines are evidence-based.

My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

Well, I read what the ADA had to say 20 years ago and absolutely decided
not to trust them myself. YMMV.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Dec 26 2007, 9:25*am, Anna wrote:
Mine doesn't go way way way up. It is called MODERATION.
And knowing when to stop.
Medicine controls my sugar levels.

Would you mind disclosing your most recent A1C level?