Anna wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:53 -0500, Jackie Patti
wrote:
And I do have recipes in which a TB of blackstrap molasses is used in a
marinade or something. Very teeny, tiny amounts of sugar spread over
several servings. And yeah, that doesn't spike my bg. But I'd hardly
start a thread announcing that diabetics can all eat molasses.

Now that is interesting about the molasses. I do limit what I eat and
even my weight has dropped considerably too which helps too.
Ive used the Splenda in things and not told my husband and he doesn't
know the difference.

My husband doesn't like aspartame or sucralose, which is why I use
stevia more often.

He was drinking stevia-sweetened lemonade for months before he noticed I
hadn't made a "regular" and "diet" version - that he was drinking mine.

He also hasn't yet noticed that my cole slaw and homemade relishes and
pickles only come in one version now too.

It's more noticeable in some things than others; when no one can tell
the difference, I leave the sugar out.

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http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates.

I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I
was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've
noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a
shot and eating whatever.

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AmyW wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in carbohydrates.

I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I
was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've
noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a
shot and eating whatever.


No, I don't think that the general public believes that at all. Most
people are exposed to T2 Diabetics who don't use insulin. I think most
of the general public, including many cookbook authors, think that just
substituting a sugar replacement makes any dessert okay for a Diabetic.
They remain clueless about the added carbohydrates of the flour, fruit,
milk, etc. (Too many DMs aren't properly educated and think the same,
unfortunately)

After writing to the editor of one of the Reiman Publication cooking
magazines several times in regard to their "Diabetic-Friendly" recipes
that contained 45 or more grams of carbohydrates per serving to explain
that *all* carbohydrates must be considered in a recipe for Diabetics, I
finally canceled my subscription.

I would have kept it up for some of the other recipes, but their failure
to respond led me to believe that they just didn't care.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

i am Not a doc.
i am never going to treat you ....
my question is not how happy you and doc are
so i will repeat for argument sake
why be a "moderate" type 2 diabetic?

"Janet Wilder" wrote in message
...
AmyW wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

What most of these patients are not told is that a single slice of
Wonder Bread is the equivalent of a tablespoon of sugar in
carbohydrates.

I'll have to agree with that. I hadn't a clue about potatoes until I
was diagnosed and started keeping track of my blood sugar. And I've
noticed most of the general public just picture a diabetic taking a
shot and eating whatever.


No, I don't think that the general public believes that at all. Most
people are exposed to T2 Diabetics who don't use insulin. I think most of
the general public, including many cookbook authors, think that just
substituting a sugar replacement makes any dessert okay for a Diabetic.
They remain clueless about the added carbohydrates of the flour, fruit,
milk, etc. (Too many DMs aren't properly educated and think the same,
unfortunately)

After writing to the editor of one of the Reiman Publication cooking
magazines several times in regard to their "Diabetic-Friendly" recipes
that contained 45 or more grams of carbohydrates per serving to explain
that *all* carbohydrates must be considered in a recipe for Diabetics, I
finally canceled my subscription.

I would have kept it up for some of the other recipes, but their failure
to respond led me to believe that they just didn't care.

I have to agree with you there. I've yet to meet anyone who knew that we
had to watch our carbs unless perhaps they had an immediate family member
with diabetes. And even then, they didn't necessarily realize that the
carbs were the culprit. I've often heard people say things like "Brown rice
or bread is good! White rice or bread is bad!" They also seem to think
that cereal is good so long as it doesn't contain sugar. What they don't
seem to realize is that they have to watch portion size.

"fellaj.s." wrote in message
...
i am Not a doc.
i am never going to treat you ....
my question is not how happy you and doc are
so i will repeat for argument sake
why be a "moderate" type 2 diabetic?

There is no such term.

if you can eat "in moderation" and be a diabetic
ergo
a "moderate diabetic"

"fellaj.s." " wrote in message
...
if you can eat "in moderation" and be a diabetic
ergo
a "moderate diabetic"

That makes no sense. If you could eat in moderation and have moderate BG
that would make sense. But it just doesn't work that way.

On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna
wrote:

I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
rarely am over over 115.

When do you test?

I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
I just work up and took it and it is 94.
I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
do it.

You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
I had a cat, that is.

Nicky.

--Bryan

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna
wrote:

I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
rarely am over over 115.

When do you test?

I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
I just work up and took it and it is 94.
I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
do it.

You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
I had a cat, that is.

Nicky.

--Bryan

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Anna wrote:

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Anna,

Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch
with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit
from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a
specially trained nutritionist.

My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a
well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator.

Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome"
where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a
one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in
the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done
for you, then perhaps you will learn something here.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:22:54 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:

Anna wrote:

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Anna,

Have you considered the fact that your own doctor might be out of touch
with the current treatment programs? Most Diabetics these days benefit
from a team approach with an endocrinologist, a Diabetic Educator and a
specially trained nutritionist.

My DH would not see any doctor for his Diabetes who did not have a
well-trained and accessible Diabetic Educator.

Many patients suffer from what I call "General Practitioner Syndrome"
where they are given a diagnosis, a drug, a sheet of paper with a
one-size fits all diet, and instructions to test their blood glucose in
the morning once a day, if at all. If this is what your doctor has done
for you, then perhaps you will learn something here.

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All
the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????
We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to
travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't
cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an
hour.

Anna wrote:

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS. All
the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

Personally, I wouldn't. The ADA is notorious for their concentration on
low-fat and not on the carbohydrates which are the things that make the
blood glucose numbers high.

I have plenty of ADA recipes that are so high in carbs that they are
laughable. Desserts that are 45 grams of carbs (the entire 3 carb-count
servings permitted in your diet).

The ADA does some good things and we have been members for many, many
years, but their recipes are silly.
We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to
travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't
cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an
hour.



--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:57:04 -0900, Anna
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:38 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
wrote:

On Dec 26, 10:21*am, Anna wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:45:35 +0000, Nicky
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:13:01 -0900, Anna
wrote:

I"m diabetic and eat sugar all the time. My blood sugar levels are
very well. I told my doctor I eat everything in moderation and she had
no problem with because my sugar levels are betwee 80-120. I very
rarely am over over 115.

When do you test?

I test each morning and then some time throughout the day.
I don't eat cake and candy everyday. EVERYTHING in moderation.
I take glucophage and that helps control the sugar level also.
I just work up and took it and it is 94.
I ate potatoes for dinner BUt had nothing after that.
My doctor is very pleased with all my readings. I was straight up with
her about eating carbs and sugar and she said as long as I don't over
do it.

You folks in a.f.diabetic should be aware that this Anna idiot also
advocates sucking down Cool Whip.
I wouldn't trust her to sift the shit out of my cat's litter box. If
I had a cat, that is.

Nicky.

--Bryan

why not leave me alone. It is nice that there are so many know it alls
here and doctors. I should be paying you instead of my doctor for the
advice.
Nicky you are the only thing that SUCKS around here.

Uh - check who you're insulting.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Anna" wrote in message
...

My dr. is an endocrinologist. THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH DIABETICS.

That's not true. They also see people with thyroid problems, Cushing's
syndrome and all other forms of endocrine problems.

All the information she has given me has been checked by ME with the ADA
so yes I do trust her. My sister has a nurse friend who works for the
ADA and I check on anything my doctor says with her. She has been with
the ADA for 24 years. Should I trust her????

I wouldn't trust the ADA for much of anything but taking your money. I've
also been to one VERY bad Endo. and another who was not so great. Both of
them allowed me to run hyper thyroid and I had to suffer the consequenses of
it.

We don't have any nutritionists here in Fairbanks. I would have to
travel to Anchorage which is 500 miles south and our insurance won't
cover the trip or the nutritionist because they charge almost $300 an
hour.

$300 an hour? That sounds rather excessive. But the consult shouldn't take
an hour. Mine have been anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes.