On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:30:36 -0500, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

"Siobhan Perricone" wrote in message
.. .

I'm hoping Julie will post her very very incredibly helpful post in
response to this, but really, a great resource (for BOTH of you) to start
with is "The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes" by Gretchen Becker.

The information in there is invaluable.

If they don't have it at your library, see if they can get it through
interlibrary loan, or go out and buy a copy. I imagine you'll want to have
it around.

I think you mean Jennifer. Not that I would give bad advice mind you, but
she does have very good information for newbies.

Yeah *grin* Sorry 'bout that.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:24:33 -0500, "BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net
wrote:

Becky, thanks for the link. I am experimenting daily with what works for him
and not. Since the quack didn't tell us, I figure about three hours after
eating, run a test and see how badly we messed up and what we figure we
could cut out.

Really, get the book I recommended earlier. "The First Year: Type 2
Diabetes" by Gretchen Becker. It is well worth it and it tells you the
things you really need to know right now.

I got some wheat flour and will give pancakes a shot. Ordered some maple
syrup online made with Splenda. Soon as it arrives we'll give it a try.
Will let you know if it was worth the $6 shipping charges.

This will probably be fine after he's got his diabetes under control, but
not while he's still trying to get it under control.

Another thing that has helped us keep our diabetes under control is walking
within an hour after every meal for at least ten minutes. It's not as time
consuming as you might think, and it's definately worth commiting to doing.
We're both completely undercontrol with out any meds at all (both of us for
a year now) using just dietary modifications and exercise.

Think proteins for breakfasts. Sausages, eggs, bacon, cheese, small amounts
of cottage cheese, even sugar free jello makes a nice breakfast. I often
have just some mixed nuts for breakfast. The thing is getting your head
out of the standard high carb breakfast foods (doughnuts, pancakes,
waffles, danishes, cereals are all terribly high in carbs).

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:15:37 -0500, "BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net
wrote:

I will call the Quack in the morning and get some suggestions for finding
the appropriate dietician. He is really a nice fella and quite a good Doc
but I think he shortchanged us. And you know I will make this quite clear
when I speak to him.
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions.

This is not all that uncommon, and you shouldn't call him a quack. Most
family practice doctors are not diabetes specialists, and there's a lot of
complicated information out there, some of it is even contradictory. That's
because everyone's needs and metabolism is different in some way. I can eat
things that would probably send Julie's BG into a spike, and possibly vice
versa. That's just how it is, and that's one thing that makes it difficult
to develop a real across-the-board standard of treatment for diabetes.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

Walking would be wonderful if he could do any for any length of time. He was
just released from ICU. He was there for 12 days with severe blood loss. He
received 18 pints of blood. The whole lining of his stomach was spewing
blood. He is on O2 24/7 and 70 years old. Not in great physical shape to
begin with.
I am impressed when he moves his buns to go into a convenience store to get
his own coffee.

--


BetsyB
"Siobhan Perricone" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:24:33 -0500, "BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net
wrote:

Becky, thanks for the link. I am experimenting daily with what works for
him
and not. Since the quack didn't tell us, I figure about three hours after
eating, run a test and see how badly we messed up and what we figure we
could cut out.

Really, get the book I recommended earlier. "The First Year: Type 2
Diabetes" by Gretchen Becker. It is well worth it and it tells you the
things you really need to know right now.

I got some wheat flour and will give pancakes a shot. Ordered some maple
syrup online made with Splenda. Soon as it arrives we'll give it a try.
Will let you know if it was worth the $6 shipping charges.

This will probably be fine after he's got his diabetes under control, but
not while he's still trying to get it under control.

Another thing that has helped us keep our diabetes under control is
walking
within an hour after every meal for at least ten minutes. It's not as time
consuming as you might think, and it's definately worth commiting to
doing.
We're both completely undercontrol with out any meds at all (both of us
for
a year now) using just dietary modifications and exercise.

Think proteins for breakfasts. Sausages, eggs, bacon, cheese, small
amounts
of cottage cheese, even sugar free jello makes a nice breakfast. I often
have just some mixed nuts for breakfast. The thing is getting your head
out of the standard high carb breakfast foods (doughnuts, pancakes,
waffles, danishes, cereals are all terribly high in carbs).

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the
human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:19:09 -0500, "BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net
wrote:

Walking would be wonderful if he could do any for any length of time. He was
just released from ICU. He was there for 12 days with severe blood loss. He
received 18 pints of blood. The whole lining of his stomach was spewing
blood. He is on O2 24/7 and 70 years old. Not in great physical shape to
begin with.
I am impressed when he moves his buns to go into a convenience store to get
his own coffee.

Ok, Betsy you just lost me. Have a fun time playing with people.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

I'm sorry Betsy .....I did not know .
Bless his heart ....I bet this diabetes IS hard on him then .
Becky

"BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net wrote in message
...
Walking would be wonderful if he could do any for any length of time. He
was
just released from ICU. He was there for 12 days with severe blood loss.
He
received 18 pints of blood. The whole lining of his stomach was spewing
blood. He is on O2 24/7 and 70 years old. Not in great physical shape to
begin with.
I am impressed when he moves his buns to go into a convenience store to
get
his own coffee.

--


BetsyB
"Siobhan Perricone" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:24:33 -0500, "BetsyB" betsy959atoptonline.net
wrote:

Becky, thanks for the link. I am experimenting daily with what works
for
him
and not. Since the quack didn't tell us, I figure about three hours
after
eating, run a test and see how badly we messed up and what we figure we
could cut out.

Really, get the book I recommended earlier. "The First Year: Type 2
Diabetes" by Gretchen Becker. It is well worth it and it tells you the
things you really need to know right now.

I got some wheat flour and will give pancakes a shot. Ordered some
maple
syrup online made with Splenda. Soon as it arrives we'll give it a
try.
Will let you know if it was worth the $6 shipping charges.

This will probably be fine after he's got his diabetes under control,
but
not while he's still trying to get it under control.

Another thing that has helped us keep our diabetes under control is
walking
within an hour after every meal for at least ten minutes. It's not as
time
consuming as you might think, and it's definately worth commiting to
doing.
We're both completely undercontrol with out any meds at all (both of us
for
a year now) using just dietary modifications and exercise.

Think proteins for breakfasts. Sausages, eggs, bacon, cheese, small
amounts
of cottage cheese, even sugar free jello makes a nice breakfast. I
often
have just some mixed nuts for breakfast. The thing is getting your head
out of the standard high carb breakfast foods (doughnuts, pancakes,
waffles, danishes, cereals are all terribly high in carbs).

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with
the
human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

"Becky" wrote in message
...

go to a dietitian