I like some cheesecakes, but I am picky. Don't necessarily need a crust,
but I hate sour cream and I hate a really creamy, whipped consistency to the
cake. I also only like cherry topping on my cheesecake. So I was wondering
if anyone has had success at making some sort of a cream cheese thing with
sugar free cherry Jell-O? I was thinking along the lines of mixing some
sweetener in the cream cheese and then somehow combining it with the Jell-O.
But I'm also thinking this might just make a mucky mess.

My Mom used to make a salad using a layer of lime Jell-O with pineapple or
pears in it, topped with a layer of lemon Jell-O that had been whipped with
either cream cheese or cottage cheese. I liked this, but there's that pesky
bottom layer with fruit in it that I don't want for my cheesecake-like
thingie.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

In article , "Julie Bove"
writes:

I like some cheesecakes, but I am picky. Don't necessarily need a crust,
but I hate sour cream and I hate a really creamy, whipped consistency to the
cake. I also only like cherry topping on my cheesecake. So I was wondering
if anyone has had success at making some sort of a cream cheese thing with
sugar free cherry Jell-O? I was thinking along the lines of mixing some
sweetener in the cream cheese and then somehow combining it with the Jell-O.
But I'm also thinking this might just make a mucky mess.

Julie, see if you can get a small bottle of Davinci Sugar Free Cherry syrup,
sweetened with splenda.. that would work for the cherry topping..
As always YMMV and this is JMO
Jeanne Type 2 Diagnosed 05/28/02
189/154/120

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:20:08 -0500, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I like some cheesecakes, but I am picky. Don't necessarily need a crust,
but I hate sour cream and I hate a really creamy, whipped consistency to the
cake.

You hate sour cream cooking into things? Or you hate sour cream as a
topping on a cheese cake? And I'm not sure what consistency you're looking
for. A dense, heavy cheesecake that's rich and thick? Like NY style?

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

I've seen the recipe before, but I can't stand even a tiny bit of sour cream
in my food.

Do you like yogurt? If so, try substituting Yogurt for sour cream. The cherry
topping is a different story tho. You could try melting some "sugar free"
cherry preserves and use that for a topping. I use Polaners All Fruit in small
amounts because I hate sugar free preserves. Melting it makes it go a bit
farther. All the low carb cheesecake recipes that I've seen turn out like jello
or a mousse. If you find one that is heavy and thick. Let me know.

Bill

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
...
I like some cheesecakes, but I am picky. Don't necessarily need a crust,
but I hate sour cream and I hate a really creamy, whipped consistency to
the
cake. I also only like cherry topping on my cheesecake. So I was
wondering
if anyone has had success at making some sort of a cream cheese thing with
sugar free cherry Jell-O? I was thinking along the lines of mixing some
sweetener in the cream cheese and then somehow combining it with the
Jell-O.
But I'm also thinking this might just make a mucky mess.

My Mom used to make a salad using a layer of lime Jell-O with pineapple or
pears in it, topped with a layer of lemon Jell-O that had been whipped
with
either cream cheese or cottage cheese. I liked this, but there's that
pesky
bottom layer with fruit in it that I don't want for my cheesecake-like
thingie.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/



Julie, here's a sugar-free, carb-friendly cheesecake I developed from a
Junior's Cheesecake recipe. You can cut down the carbs even more by using
full-fat or reduced fat Philadelphia cream cheese (or use half
full/reduced-fat, half fat-free). I chose to use all fat-free for this
recipe simply because I'm trying to cut down on saturated fats. The more
fat in the recipe, the less the top will crack. If you use all fat-free,
the top will crack and look "alligatored", but it won't affect the taste in
the slightest, and a topping would cover it up anyway. (I did try using a
water bath while the cheesecake was baking to see if it would cut down on
the cracking, but there was no difference.)

As for the cherry topping: Could you use sugar-free cherry jam or
preserves, or something like Comstock Lite Cherry Pie Filling? True,
they'll add some carbs, but not as many as the regular sweet stuff.

I hope this is helpful to you. I know what it's like to miss a favorite
dish!

Karen
Type 2

CHEESECAKE

1 cup Splenda granular (or 24 packets) (do not use Equal or other aspartame
sweetener, as the sweetness breaks down and becomes bitter in the baking
process)
2 tablespoons sifted cornstarch
4 8-oz. packages Philadelphia fat-free cream cheese, softened (do not use
store brand, as the taste and texture are inferior)
1 large egg
1/2 cup fat-free half and half (adds a trivial amount of sugar; may use
regular half & half or heavy cream instead if you prefer)
1 teaspoon vanilla extract

1. Preheat the oven to 350°. Generously butter the bottom and sides of a 8-
or 9-inch springform pan.

2. In a large bowl, combine the Splenda and the cornstarch. Beat in the
cream cheese. Beat in the egg. Slowly drizzle in the half and half, beating
constantly. Add the vanilla and stir well. Pour (spread) the mixture into
the prepared pan. Bake until the top is golden, 45 to 55 min. (Top will
crack, but this doesn't affect taste or texture.) Cool in the pan on a wire
rack for 3 hrs. Remove springform collar; refrigerate.

Serves 8 very generously.

Approx. 144 calories and 12 grams of carbohydrate per serving.

Karen wrote:

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
...
I like some cheesecakes, but I am picky. Don't necessarily need a crust,
but I hate sour cream and I hate a really creamy, whipped consistency to
the
cake. I also only like cherry topping on my cheesecake. So I was
wondering
if anyone has had success at making some sort of a cream cheese thing with
sugar free cherry Jell-O? I was thinking along the lines of mixing some
sweetener in the cream cheese and then somehow combining it with the
Jell-O.
But I'm also thinking this might just make a mucky mess.

My Mom used to make a salad using a layer of lime Jell-O with pineapple or
pears in it, topped with a layer of lemon Jell-O that had been whipped
with
either cream cheese or cottage cheese. I liked this, but there's that
pesky
bottom layer with fruit in it that I don't want for my cheesecake-like
thingie.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/



Julie, here's a sugar-free, carb-friendly cheesecake I developed from a
Junior's Cheesecake recipe. You can cut down the carbs even more by using
full-fat or reduced fat Philadelphia cream cheese (or use half
full/reduced-fat, half fat-free). I chose to use all fat-free for this
recipe simply because I'm trying to cut down on saturated fats. The more
fat in the recipe, the less the top will crack. If you use all fat-free,
the top will crack and look "alligatored", but it won't affect the taste in
the slightest, and a topping would cover it up anyway. (I did try using a
water bath while the cheesecake was baking to see if it would cut down on
the cracking, but there was no difference.)

As for the cherry topping: Could you use sugar-free cherry jam or
preserves, or something like Comstock Lite Cherry Pie Filling? True,
they'll add some carbs, but not as many as the regular sweet stuff.

I hope this is helpful to you. I know what it's like to miss a favorite
dish!

Karen
Type 2

CHEESECAKE

1 cup Splenda granular (or 24 packets) (do not use Equal or other aspartame
sweetener, as the sweetness breaks down and becomes bitter in the baking
process)
2 tablespoons sifted cornstarch
4 8-oz. packages Philadelphia fat-free cream cheese, softened (do not use
store brand, as the taste and texture are inferior)
1 large egg
1/2 cup fat-free half and half (adds a trivial amount of sugar; may use
regular half & half or heavy cream instead if you prefer)
1 teaspoon vanilla extract

1. Preheat the oven to 350°. Generously butter the bottom and sides of a 8-
or 9-inch springform pan.

2. In a large bowl, combine the Splenda and the cornstarch. Beat in the
cream cheese. Beat in the egg. Slowly drizzle in the half and half, beating
constantly. Add the vanilla and stir well. Pour (spread) the mixture into
the prepared pan. Bake until the top is golden, 45 to 55 min. (Top will
crack, but this doesn't affect taste or texture.) Cool in the pan on a wire
rack for 3 hrs. Remove springform collar; refrigerate.

Serves 8 very generously.

Approx. 144 calories and 12 grams of carbohydrate per serving.

From a Canadian...

What the heck is fat free half and half? That's an oxymoron!

Vicki

"Vicki Beausoleil" wrote in message
...
..
snip
From a Canadian...

What the heck is fat free half and half? That's an oxymoron!

Vicki

I did a double-take when I saw "fat-free" half and half (generic store
brand) in our grocery store, but there it was! Land O Lakes also has
fat-free half and half; don't know if that's available in your area. Here's
a link to LOL's web site with a news release about their FF half and half,
which debuted in March:
http://www.landolakesinc.com/OurComp...?ArticleID=159

Your grocery store may be able to special-order the FF half and half if
you're interested.

Karen
Type 2

"Karen" wrote in message
news:uc5vb.256856$Tr4.803363@attbi_s03...

Julie, here's a sugar-free, carb-friendly cheesecake I developed from a
Junior's Cheesecake recipe. You can cut down the carbs even more by using
full-fat or reduced fat Philadelphia cream cheese (or use half
full/reduced-fat, half fat-free). I chose to use all fat-free for this
recipe simply because I'm trying to cut down on saturated fats. The more
fat in the recipe, the less the top will crack. If you use all fat-free,
the top will crack and look "alligatored", but it won't affect the taste
in
the slightest, and a topping would cover it up anyway. (I did try using a
water bath while the cheesecake was baking to see if it would cut down on
the cracking, but there was no difference.)

As for the cherry topping: Could you use sugar-free cherry jam or
preserves, or something like Comstock Lite Cherry Pie Filling? True,
they'll add some carbs, but not as many as the regular sweet stuff.

snip

Thanks! But that's a lot more carbs than I'm willing to eat in a dessert.
And I can't do the cherries. That's why I was thinking along the lines of
Jell-O and cream cheese because it wouldn't be very much in the way of
carbs.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
...

Thanks! But that's a lot more carbs than I'm willing to eat in a dessert.
And I can't do the cherries. That's why I was thinking along the lines of
Jell-O and cream cheese because it wouldn't be very much in the way of
carbs.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/


As I said, using the full-fat stuff will greatly reduce the carbs. And
1/8th of this cheesecake is a *very* generous serving (I often cut a slice
in half, as it's really rich). Using full-fat stuff and cutting the serving
size to 1/16th, the carb count would go like this:

Entire cheesecake: 50 carbs
16 servings at 3.1 carbs per slice

Steel's Sour Cherry Jam with no sugar added is 1.5 carbs per tablespoon.
Here's a link to nutritional info on their products:
http://www.thorpfruit.com/?pageid=2955 Or you could always spread a little
prepared sugar-free Jell-O on top of the cheesecake; it would at least give
you the cherry flavor.

Innovation is the name of the game with diabetics...and I've learned to
innovate a lot since my diagnosis last year!

Karen
Type 2

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:07:54 -0500, Vicki Beausoleil
wrote:


A NY style cheesecakes has its particular texture because of added
flour.

I've never seen a NY style cheesecake recipe that adds flour to the batter
at all. Not saying they don't exist, just that I don't think that's
authentic. The recipe I've posted here before is from the Marx Brothers
Deli in NYC. No flour. *shrug* YMMV.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

On 20 Nov 2003 15:19:55 GMT, erospam (Wmkcross) wrote:

I've seen the recipe before, but I can't stand even a tiny bit of sour cream
in my food.

Do you like yogurt? If so, try substituting Yogurt for sour cream.

OOOoh yeah, that should work just fine! That's a GREAT thought! Though I'd
make sure it was a good, real yogurt that wasn't thickened with gums just
to be sure it'd bake up right.

As for the cherry stuff, there's a canned cherry pie filling made with
Splenda.... Lucky leaf no sugar added cherry pie filling. The whole twenty
ounce can of it has only around 56 grams of carbs. So you can use that on
top of a my low carb Marx Brothers Cheesecake (made with yogurt instead of
sour cream) with NO problem.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:47:35 -0500, "Julie Bove"
wrote:


Thanks! But that's a lot more carbs than I'm willing to eat in a dessert.
And I can't do the cherries. That's why I was thinking along the lines of
Jell-O and cream cheese because it wouldn't be very much in the way of
carbs.

Ok, so here's my recipe only with yogurt instead of sour cream. 1/16th of
it is 7 carbs, if you add on top 1/3 cup of the Lucky Leaf no sugar added
cherry pie filling, that adds another 8 carbs, making the whole thing 15
carbs for a slice of cherry cheesecake.

Siobhan's Version of Marx Brothers Cheesecake

1/4 cup plus 2 tbsp butter, room temperature
2.5 cups *finely* ground nuts (I use walnuts, their effective carbs are
close enough to nil so as not to count) Toasted before grinding if you
prefer the flavour

6 8-ounce packages cream cheese, room temperature (I didn't say it was low
fat, nonfat cream cheese doesn't bake up as nicely and has more carbs)
2 cups plus 2 tbsp Splenda
4 large eggs and 1 large egg yolk
1 tbsp vanilla extract (you can use 2 tsp if you prefer, I like my vanilla
strong)
1/2 cup yogurt

Preheat oven to 250 degrees. Rub 2 tbsp butter on bottom and sides of 10
inch springform pan (a 9 inch pan works fine too) with 3 inch high sides.
Take some of the ground nuts and "dust" the bottom and sides of the pan
(like you would with flour). Mix 2 tbsp Splenda in with the rest of the
nuts. Mix the rest of the butter with the rest of the nuts until crumbly,
and press the nut mixture into the *bottom* of the pan and set aside.

Beat cream cheese in large bowl until softened, add eggs and yolk, then
beat until thoroughly mixed. Add Splenda one cup at a time (mixing between
additions), mix in vanilla, then set to high and beat until smooth and a
little fluffy. FOLD in yogurt. Spread batter in prepared pan and bake in
preheated oven (DO NOT OPEN THE OVEN DOOR DURING BAKING) until a *knife*
inserted 2 inches from the center comes out clean (this takes 1.5 hours).
Turn off the oven and leave the cheesecake in the oven for another 20
minutes. Take the cheesecake from the oven and allow to cool completely on
the counter before covering and putting in the fridge over night. You can
cut this into 8ths, but that's a BIG piece of cheesecake. Better to cut it
into 16ths because it's so rich and dense.

A 16th of this cake only has roughly 7 carbs, an 8th is roughly 14 carbs
(allowing for rounding error).

--
Siobhan Perricone
"Who would have thought that a bad Austrian artist who's obsessed with the human physical ideal could assemble such a rabid political following?"
- www.theonion.com

In article ,
Siobhan Perricone wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:07:54 -0500, Vicki Beausoleil
wrote:


A NY style cheesecakes has its particular texture because of added
flour.

I've never seen a NY style cheesecake recipe that adds flour to the batter
at all. Not saying they don't exist, just that I don't think that's
authentic. The recipe I've posted here before is from the Marx Brothers
Deli in NYC. No flour. *shrug* YMMV.

I've always viewed the difference between NY style cheesecake and non-NY
style as being that the NY style has more cream cheese and is baked,
making it heavier; the other has gelatin, and is lighter in texture.
But, no, I've never seen a recipe with flour. I can imagine that someone
might have made one, in an effort to defat the recipe; 4 8 oz bricks of
full-fat cream cheese is a *lot*.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

"Siobhan Perricone" wrote in message
...
On 20 Nov 2003 15:19:55 GMT, erospam (Wmkcross) wrote:

I've seen the recipe before, but I can't stand even a tiny bit of sour
cream
in my food.

Do you like yogurt? If so, try substituting Yogurt for sour cream.

OOOoh yeah, that should work just fine! That's a GREAT thought! Though I'd
make sure it was a good, real yogurt that wasn't thickened with gums just
to be sure it'd bake up right.

As for the cherry stuff, there's a canned cherry pie filling made with
Splenda.... Lucky leaf no sugar added cherry pie filling. The whole twenty
ounce can of it has only around 56 grams of carbs. So you can use that on
top of a my low carb Marx Brothers Cheesecake (made with yogurt instead of
sour cream) with NO problem.

Yogurt and sour cream are equally yucky in my book and I really can't eat
the cherries.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

"Karen" wrote in message
news:lRevb.62674$Dw6.334872@attbi_s02...
As I said, using the full-fat stuff will greatly reduce the carbs. And
1/8th of this cheesecake is a *very* generous serving (I often cut a slice
in half, as it's really rich). Using full-fat stuff and cutting the
serving
size to 1/16th, the carb count would go like this:

Entire cheesecake: 50 carbs
16 servings at 3.1 carbs per slice

I can't imagine cutting a cheesecake into 16 pieces. If it were a good
cheesecake, my husband would easily eat at least half of it in one sitting.
He has been known to eat an entire cheesecake. Just him and a fork.

Steel's Sour Cherry Jam with no sugar added is 1.5 carbs per tablespoon.
Here's a link to nutritional info on their products:
http://www.thorpfruit.com/?pageid=2955 Or you could always spread a
little
prepared sugar-free Jell-O on top of the cheesecake; it would at least
give
you the cherry flavor.

Innovation is the name of the game with diabetics...and I've learned to
innovate a lot since my diagnosis last year!

I've tried few products from Steel's and didn't care for them. Don't they
use fructose?

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/