After having looked at so many dishwashers, I wonder what everyone else's
opinion is of the best unit(s) for washing long-stemmed glasses (champagne,
wine, etc.). I'm almost tempted to chuck the stems and go for the stemless
variety, as this is the most frustrating aspect of residential dishwashers
(commercial dishwashers have a dedicated plastic rack that holds the glasses
100% upright). The GE Profile looks good with hooks/clips to hold the
glasses, and the Bosch unit looks good too (square retainers to keep the
glasses from sliding to horizontal). Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
type dishwashers for this?

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:

>After having looked at so many dishwashers, I wonder what everyone else's
>opinion is of the best unit(s) for washing long-stemmed glasses (champagne,
>wine, etc.).

The best solution is to buy the stemware racks sold by specialist wine equipment
catalogs (like Wine Enthusiast, at http://tinyurl.com/sytvn). Each one holds two
glasses of any length up to 11" inverted, in whichever rack has sufficient
vertical space. Use them with a gel dishwasher soap (so you don't get etching
from undissolved powder) and a good wetting agent, and voila!

-- Larry

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:

>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>type dishwashers for this?
>


Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
by hand.

And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.


I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.

On Sat 04 Mar 2006 08:21:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ward
Abbott?

> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:
>
>>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>>type dishwashers for this?
>>
>
>
> Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
> by hand.
>
> And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.
>
>
> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.

Well, I can't afford Lupe and Juanita, but with soft water and only a
teaspoon of gel detergent, I have never experienced any damage to fine
crystal, and I don't hestitate putting it in there. Been doing it for 30
years, even before there was gel detergent. The key is using very little.

--
Wayne Boatwright o¿o
____________________

BIOYA

On Sat 04 Mar 2006 04:25:27p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it So'n'so?

> After having looked at so many dishwashers, I wonder what everyone
> else's opinion is of the best unit(s) for washing long-stemmed glasses
> (champagne, wine, etc.). I'm almost tempted to chuck the stems and go
> for the stemless variety, as this is the most frustrating aspect of
> residential dishwashers (commercial dishwashers have a dedicated plastic
> rack that holds the glasses 100% upright). The GE Profile looks good
> with hooks/clips to hold the glasses, and the Bosch unit looks good too
> (square retainers to keep the glasses from sliding to horizontal).
> Anybody have an opinion on the drawer type dishwashers for this?

Several manufacturers have retaining clips and adjustable racks to accomodate
stemware. I think you need to take samples of your stemware to a showroom
and check out the various options in order to be sure.

--
Wayne Boatwright o¿o
____________________

BIOYA

"Ward Abbott" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:
>
>>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>>type dishwashers for this?
>>
>
>
> Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
> by hand.
>
> And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.
>
>
> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.
>
>

I can say...'Amen' to that ! :-))
--
Bigbazza (Barry)..Oz

What is gel detergent? I don't think I've seen that in Australia. Is it
just for dishwashers?

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> On Sat 04 Mar 2006 08:21:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ward
> Abbott?
>
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:
>>
>>>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>>>type dishwashers for this?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
>> by hand.
>>
>> And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.
>>
>>
>> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
>> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.
>
> Well, I can't afford Lupe and Juanita, but with soft water and only a
> teaspoon of gel detergent, I have never experienced any damage to fine
> crystal, and I don't hestitate putting it in there. Been doing it for 30
> years, even before there was gel detergent. The key is using very little.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright o¿o
> ____________________
>
> BIOYA

In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote:

> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.

I've been washing my stemware in the dishwasher for years and I've
never had a problem with etching, either. Etching typically is
caused by using too much or too harsh a detergent.

And, FWIW, my ASKO (Swedish) has a built-in flip-down which
accommodates half-a-dozen pieces of stemware. They stay put, they do
not touch each other, and they clean and dry completely.

sd

On Sun 05 Mar 2006 03:19:24a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Viviane?

> What is gel detergent? I don't think I've seen that in Australia. Is
> it just for dishwashers?

Yes, it's very thick liquid, almost gel-like in consistency, and made
specifically for automatic dishwashers.

Here's an example:

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p27913527?sourceid=3

> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>> On Sat 04 Mar 2006 08:21:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ward
>> Abbott?
>>
>>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>>>>type dishwashers for this?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
>>> by hand.
>>>
>>> And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
>>> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.
>>
>> Well, I can't afford Lupe and Juanita, but with soft water and only a
>> teaspoon of gel detergent, I have never experienced any damage to fine
>> crystal, and I don't hestitate putting it in there. Been doing it for
>> 30 years, even before there was gel detergent. The key is using very
>> little.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright o¿o ____________________
>>
>> BIOYA
>
>
>



--
Wayne Boatwright o¿o
____________________

BIOYA

Thanks. I've never seen it here - we only have powder or tablets for the
dishwasher.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> On Sun 05 Mar 2006 03:19:24a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Viviane?
>
>> What is gel detergent? I don't think I've seen that in Australia. Is
>> it just for dishwashers?
>
> Yes, it's very thick liquid, almost gel-like in consistency, and made
> specifically for automatic dishwashers.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p27913527?sourceid=3
>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
>> 28.19...
>>> On Sat 04 Mar 2006 08:21:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ward
>>> Abbott?
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:25:27 GMT, "So'n'so" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Anybody have an opinion on the drawer
>>>>>type dishwashers for this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lupe and Juanita wash all our Waterford, Baccarat and Libby stemware
>>>> by hand.
>>>>
>>>> And then dry them with Irish Linen cloths to eliminate the lint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would never consider putting any "good" glassware in a machine. The
>>>> glass will be "etched" and will never look proper again.
>>>
>>> Well, I can't afford Lupe and Juanita, but with soft water and only a
>>> teaspoon of gel detergent, I have never experienced any damage to fine
>>> crystal, and I don't hestitate putting it in there. Been doing it for
>>> 30 years, even before there was gel detergent. The key is using very
>>> little.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Boatwright o¿o ____________________
>>>
>>> BIOYA
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright o¿o
> ____________________
>
> BIOYA