I have an older Kitchen Aid that is working fine but is too small for
my needs (making double batches of cookies, making bread occasionally
etc). I've heard the newer KA's aren't the greatest, so I'm looking
elsewhere. These are my 3 choices:

Bosch Concept 7 (MUM7010)

Viking 7 QT

Electrolux DLX


Any advice/opinions etc? I need a good all around, heavy duty mixer.
Not just for breads. I do have some issues with each one and Im not
sure which is more important:

Bosch---plastic bowl, base.....is it sturdy? And the center post..is
that easy to clean/does it get in the way etc

Viking--How easy/hard is it to add ingredients? IS it basically like a
bigger KA? Does it mix well or do I have to scrap the bottom of the
bowl like my KA?
Electrolux---the roller/scraper thing has me curious.

Thanks!
Susan

wrote in message
...
I have an older Kitchen Aid that is working fine but is too small for
my needs (making double batches of cookies, making bread occasionally
etc). I've heard the newer KA's aren't the greatest, so I'm looking
elsewhere. These are my 3 choices:

Bosch Concept 7 (MUM7010)

Viking 7 QT

Electrolux DLX


Any advice/opinions etc? I need a good all around, heavy duty mixer.
Not just for breads. I do have some issues with each one and Im not
sure which is more important:

Bosch---plastic bowl, base.....is it sturdy? And the center post..is
that easy to clean/does it get in the way etc

Viking--How easy/hard is it to add ingredients? IS it basically like a
bigger KA? Does it mix well or do I have to scrap the bottom of the
bowl like my KA?
Electrolux---the roller/scraper thing has me curious.

The Viking is a new (to me) machine that no one has reported first-hand
experience with here. I think it has potential, but looks can be deceiving.
I would wait on that one. The only negatives I recall about the Electrolux
is that it doesn't do a very good job on small batches, but since you have a
KA, that shouldn't be an issue. It is a machine that has a good track
record, unlike the Viking which is an unknown.

If you are serious about the Bosch but the plastic is a deal breaker, you
might consider the stainless steel version. Although they are pricey, I
have seen several at the Frontgate Outlet store here in Cincinnati. As I
recall, they were asking around $450. I think they were discontinued from
their catalog. Their website now shows the Viking mixer instead of the
Bosch. You can get contact information he
http://www.frontgate.com/fg/cs.jsp?tId=63 You can see the Bosch Solitaire
mixer he
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/bos..._mum_7400.html

wrote in message
...
I have an older Kitchen Aid that is working fine but is too small for
my needs (making double batches of cookies, making bread occasionally
etc). I've heard the newer KA's aren't the greatest, so I'm looking
elsewhere. These are my 3 choices:

Bosch Concept 7 (MUM7010)

Viking 7 QT

Electrolux DLX


Any advice/opinions etc? I need a good all around, heavy duty mixer.
Not just for breads. I do have some issues with each one and Im not
sure which is more important:

Bosch---plastic bowl, base.....is it sturdy? And the center post..is
that easy to clean/does it get in the way etc

I have one and with high hydration bread doughs with long kneading, dough
works its way into the central shaft area and it's a b---h to clean out.
I'm ordering a SS bowl soon for these doughs. Otherwise it's a well built
mixer that hardly gets warm with large batches of conventional bread dough.


Viking--How easy/hard is it to add ingredients? IS it basically like a
bigger KA? Does it mix well or do I have to scrap the bottom of the
bowl like my KA?

This is being made in the old Kenwood factory in the UK and is much more
powerful than the KAs. There are no reviews yet AFAIK. I used my old
Kenwood last night to knead a special dough for 20 minutes. It was warm at
the end but not enough to consider shutting it off for a while to cool down.

Graham

" wrote in news:cb9fo6
:

I have an older Kitchen Aid that is working fine but is too small for
my needs (making double batches of cookies, making bread occasionally
etc). I've heard the newer KA's aren't the greatest, so I'm looking
elsewhere. These are my 3 choices:

Bosch Concept 7 (MUM7010)

Viking 7 QT

Electrolux DLX


Any advice/opinions etc? I need a good all around, heavy duty mixer.
Not just for breads. I do have some issues with each one and Im not
sure which is more important:

Bosch---plastic bowl, base.....is it sturdy? And the center post..is
that easy to clean/does it get in the way etc

Viking--How easy/hard is it to add ingredients? IS it basically like a
bigger KA? Does it mix well or do I have to scrap the bottom of the
bowl like my KA?
Electrolux---the roller/scraper thing has me curious.

Thanks!
Susan

On general principles I would never buy a mixer with a center post
mechanism, for the same reason I hate to grease and flour an angelfood
cake pan and avoid dishwashers with a center post like the plague.
They're awkward and inconvenient to use and clean.

Planetary action mixers are tried and true, albeit different than the
center post models. I've never been disappointed in my Kitchenaid K5A,
although mine was made by Hobart.

The new Viking, made in the old Kenwood factory, is probably a good bet,
although I haven't read any reviews on it.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

We have a Kenwood and wouldn't consider anything else. In fact, while
waiting for my husband at the shopping centre today I was looking at a
Kitchen Aid and cannot believe how ugly those machines are. I can only hope
they work better than they look.

"graham" wrote in message
news:Sn_Bc.816666$Pk3.588019@pd7tw1no...

wrote in message
...
I have an older Kitchen Aid that is working fine but is too small for
my needs (making double batches of cookies, making bread occasionally
etc). I've heard the newer KA's aren't the greatest, so I'm looking
elsewhere. These are my 3 choices:

Bosch Concept 7 (MUM7010)

Viking 7 QT

Electrolux DLX


Any advice/opinions etc? I need a good all around, heavy duty mixer.
Not just for breads. I do have some issues with each one and Im not
sure which is more important:

Bosch---plastic bowl, base.....is it sturdy? And the center post..is
that easy to clean/does it get in the way etc

I have one and with high hydration bread doughs with long kneading, dough
works its way into the central shaft area and it's a b---h to clean out.
I'm ordering a SS bowl soon for these doughs. Otherwise it's a well built
mixer that hardly gets warm with large batches of conventional bread
dough.


Viking--How easy/hard is it to add ingredients? IS it basically like a
bigger KA? Does it mix well or do I have to scrap the bottom of the
bowl like my KA?

This is being made in the old Kenwood factory in the UK and is much more
powerful than the KAs. There are no reviews yet AFAIK. I used my old
Kenwood last night to knead a special dough for 20 minutes. It was warm
at
the end but not enough to consider shutting it off for a while to cool
down.

Graham

***snip***
I have one and with high hydration bread doughs with long kneading,
dough
works its way into the central shaft area and it's a b---h to clean
out.
I'm ordering a SS bowl soon for these doughs. Otherwise it's a well
built
mixer that hardly gets warm with large batches of conventional bread
dough

Is the SS bowl less likely to get dough in the central shaft? Its
really hard making a decision since I can't see these in person!
Thanks
Susan

wrote in message
...
***snip***
I have one and with high hydration bread doughs with long kneading,
dough
works its way into the central shaft area and it's a b---h to clean
out.
I'm ordering a SS bowl soon for these doughs. Otherwise it's a well
built
mixer that hardly gets warm with large batches of conventional bread
dough

Is the SS bowl less likely to get dough in the central shaft? Its
really hard making a decision since I can't see these in person!
Thanks
Susan

The SS bowl doesn't have a central column. The mixing arm is different to
that used in the plastic bowl version and attaches to a very short spindle
in the base of the bowl and the "prongs" point upwards. Inthe plastic
version, the arm attaches to the top of a central column and the "prongs"
point downwards.
HTH
Graham