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Old 16-01-2004, 12:54 AM
Pat
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I was wondering if anyone has tried the Calphalon Contemporary knives
and what they thought of them? Apparently these are Friedrich Dick
knives sold under the name of Calphalon. They are made in China using
German steel.

Thanks,
Pat
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Old 16-01-2004, 02:02 PM
Steve B
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Pat wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has tried the Calphalon Contemporary knives
and what they thought of them? Apparently these are Friedrich Dick
knives sold under the name of Calphalon. They are made in China using
German steel.

Thanks,
Pat


I have sharpened a few Calphalon knives, and they seem to be fine from
the steel point of view, but I have not used them so I cannot comment on
use.

Steve
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Tools by Steve Bottorff Copyright January 2002 Knife World Publications
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Old 17-01-2004, 02:35 AM
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"Pat" wrote in message
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I was wondering if anyone has tried the Calphalon Contemporary knives
and what they thought of them? Apparently these are Friedrich Dick
knives sold under the name of Calphalon. They are made in China using
German steel.

Thanks,
Pat


Calphalon knives are made in China but I don't think F. Dick knives are.
Let's just say they are Chinese imports.

Fred
Knife Outlet
http://www.knifeoutlet.com


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Old 17-01-2004, 06:30 PM
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Fred wrote:

Calphalon knives are made in China but I don't think F. Dick knives are.
Let's just say they are Chinese imports.

Fred
Knife Outlet
http://www.knifeoutlet.com


Whenever a US cookware distributor starts selling a knife line, often
the rumor is that they are F. Dick. I have heard that about Calphalon,
Chef'sChoice and Tupperware.

Steve

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Tools by Steve Bottorff Copyright January 2002 Knife World Publications
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Old 18-01-2004, 05:35 AM
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Whenever a US cookware distributor starts selling a knife line, often
the rumor is that they are F. Dick. I have heard that about Calphalon,
Chef'sChoice and Tupperware.

There is a review on Consumer Search which states that Friedrich Dick
knives are also sold under the name Calphalon Professional Cutlery.
The website for this review is
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/ki...fullstory.html

Pat
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Old 20-01-2004, 12:15 AM
Jack Denver
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I think that when the Calphalon knives first came out the were indeed
relabeled F. Dick. I have a couple of these that I got as a promotional set
for a very good price because they were odd sizes - a 7" chefs and a 4 1/2"
parer. They are labeled "made in Germany" and appear to me to be identical
to F. Dick forged knives. They are very good.

However at some point Calphalon must have shopped the bid and gotten a
better deal (if not a better knife) from a Chinese factory. The current
Calphalon knives are labeled made in China and are certainly not the same
German made knives that are sold under the "F. Dick" label.

Even if the Chinese Calphalons are made with German steel, the raw material
is but one small aspect of the craft of knifemaking and this doesn't
necessarily make them the equivalent of F. Dick knives. They may be very
good in their own right (or maybe not) but they ain't F.Dick anymore.




"Pat" wrote in message
m...
Whenever a US cookware distributor starts selling a knife line, often
the rumor is that they are F. Dick. I have heard that about Calphalon,
Chef'sChoice and Tupperware.

There is a review on Consumer Search which states that Friedrich Dick
knives are also sold under the name Calphalon Professional Cutlery.
The website for this review is
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/ki...fullstory.html

Pat



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Old 20-01-2004, 07:04 AM
Dee Randall
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"Pat" wrote in message
m...
Whenever a US cookware distributor starts selling a knife line, often
the rumor is that they are F. Dick. I have heard that about Calphalon,
Chef'sChoice and Tupperware.

There is a review on Consumer Search which states that Friedrich Dick
knives are also sold under the name Calphalon Professional Cutlery.
The website for this review is
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/ki...fullstory.html

Pat


Thanks for the url for this article which states:
Two reviewers rave about Tramontina, saying you get the best of both
worlds: they're forged using the same materials and methods as German and
French knives, but they're made in Brazil and thus sell for much less than a
Wusthof-Trident or Henckels. Reviewers say Tramontina knives reportedly dull
faster than more expensive brands, but are easy to re-sharpen.



I'm assuming that Tramontina is a brand, but does anyone know if it
is also their copyright for their type of steel as well. In other words,
are only the Tramontina-brand knives made of "tramontina" steel?

Thanks for the article.

Dee




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Old 21-01-2004, 06:10 PM
Jack Denver
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Default Calphalon knives

One of the key attributes of a knife is hardness and edge retention. If you
say knife x is "just as good" as Henckels, but it dulls more rapidly, that's
doubletalk. Generally, in knives, harder is better. If I made my knife out
of copper like a cave man, it would be extremely easy to sharpen - I'd know
because I'd be pausing to sharpen it every 5 minutes. No modern (metal)
knife is "hard" to re-sharpen because none will resist diamond abrasives.

"Tramontina" is the name of a company, just like Henkels or Ford. There is
no such thing as "tramontina steel", or even for that matter "Tramontina
steel" - Tramontina buys its steel from steel mills, the same as everyone
else. The type of steel is only a starting point -there are many steps in
turning a chunk of steel into a knife. Everyone starts with more or less the
same cows milk when making cheese, but the end results can differ greatly.
No one can make a generic "tramontina" knife anymore than I can make a
generic "maytag" refrigerator, but the Tramontina company makes knives in
many different grades. I have a set of 4 Tramontina paring knives that I
bought at a dollar store - that's right - 25 cents/knife. I use them as
steak knives. They're of course cheap stamped stainless knives with plastic
handles. That being said, they work pretty well - whenever they dull (which
is often) I run them thru my Chef's Choice sharpener. Probably in another 5
or 10 years they'll be ground down too far, but by then I think I will have
gotten my money's worth out of them.


"Dee Randall" deedoveyatshenteldotnet wrote in message
...

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Two reviewers rave about Tramontina, saying you get the best of both
worlds: they're forged using the same materials and methods as German and
French knives, but they're made in Brazil and thus sell for much less than

a
Wusthof-Trident or Henckels. Reviewers say Tramontina knives reportedly

dull
faster than more expensive brands, but are easy to re-sharpen.



I'm assuming that Tramontina is a brand, but does anyone know if

it
is also their copyright for their type of steel as well. In other words,
are only the Tramontina-brand knives made of "tramontina" steel?

Thanks for the article.

Dee






 




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