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My mum gave me one of her old cast aluminium saucepans (made by Club)
which is older than I am. This week the handle on the lid came off
and the threads inside the handle have been stripped so it won't screw
back on.
I've bought a new pyrex lid from a kitchen shop but it's not very good
as it doesn't fit very well despite being just bigger than the pan and
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where I can find a new handle
for the orginal lid.

I've searched ebay: nothing in the UK where I am but there's one in
the USA but is probably going to cost more than the new lid which I
bought! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=200077793221)

A new, similar pan was £30-£40 in the shop I got the lid from which I
don't want to pay as I have an almost perfectly good one at the
moment.

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On 10 Feb 2007 05:33:34 -0800, "naked_draughtsman"
> wrote:

>My mum gave me one of her old cast aluminium saucepans (made by Club)
>which is older than I am. This week the handle on the lid came off
>and the threads inside the handle have been stripped so it won't screw
>back on.
>I've bought a new pyrex lid from a kitchen shop but it's not very good
>as it doesn't fit very well despite being just bigger than the pan and
>I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where I can find a new handle
>for the orginal lid.


Have you tried inserting pieces of toothpick inside the threads to
give the screw something to bit on?

If that fails and you don't care that the handle will never come off
the lid again, it can be easily repaired by using epoxy glue (2 part
glue) to glue the lid and handle. The epoxy glue will secure pretty
much anything to anything. A small two tube kit of 5 minute epoxy
costs about $5 in the US.

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On Feb 10, 4:19 pm, Cape Cod Bob >
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> If that fails and you don't care that the handle will never come off
> the lid again, it can be easily repaired by using epoxy glue (2 part
> glue) to glue the lid and handle. The epoxy glue will secure pretty
> much anything to anything. A small two tube kit of 5 minute epoxy
> costs about $5 in the US.


My only concern about glueing it is that the screw thread will get hot
- is epoxy glue OK at quite high temperatures?

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"naked_draughtsman" > wrote:
> My mum gave me one of her old cast aluminium saucepans (made by Club)
> which is older than I am. This week the handle on the lid came off
> and the threads inside the handle have been stripped so it won't screw
> back on.
> I've bought a new pyrex lid from a kitchen shop but it's not very good
> as it doesn't fit very well despite being just bigger than the pan and
> I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where I can find a new handle
> for the orginal lid.


Something you might want to try is buying a knob for a kitchen drawer or
cabinet and using it to replace the original knob on the lid. You might have
to get a shorter screw than comes with the new knob, because it only has to
go through the thin lid rather than the thicker cabinet front. You can
either cut the supplied screw to the required length, or get a replacement
screw of the correct length.

The potential downside of this method is most cabinet knobs are metal, so
would get hot. But you should be able to find a wood knob that would do the
job. As long as you aren't planning on putting the pan in the oven, most
knob materials would work fine.

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naked_draughtsman wrote:
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> My mum gave me one of her old cast aluminium saucepans (made by Club)
> which is older than I am.


I've got one of those too. A bright green dutch oven. Funny thing is
that we use the lid more than the pot, because it fits "just right"
on my wifes favorite saute pan.

> This week the handle on the lid came off
> and the threads inside the handle have been stripped so it won't screw
> back on.... I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where I can find a new handle
> for the orginal lid.


I can't imagine it would be easy to find at this late date.

Maybe put a 'heli-coil' insert in your old handle? Such inserts are used
in cars all the time. Do you have a friend who is a mechanic? Or is there
a machine shop nearby?

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On Feb 10, 9:17 pm, Walter Spector >
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> naked_draughtsman wrote:
>
> > My mum gave me one of her old cast aluminium saucepans (made by Club)
> > which is older than I am.

>
> I've got one of those too. A bright green dutch oven. Funny thing is
> that we use the lid more than the pot, because it fits "just right"
> on my wifes favorite saute pan.
>
> > This week the handle on the lid came off
> > and the threads inside the handle have been stripped so it won't screw
> > back on.... I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where I can find a new handle
> > for the orginal lid.

>
> I can't imagine it would be easy to find at this late date.
>
> Maybe put a 'heli-coil' insert in your old handle? Such inserts are used
> in cars all the time. Do you have a friend who is a mechanic? Or is there
> a machine shop nearby?
>
> W.


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> On Feb 10, 4:19 pm, Cape Cod Bob >
> wrote:
>
>> If that fails and you don't care that the handle will never come off
>> the lid again, it can be easily repaired by using epoxy glue (2 part
>> glue) to glue the lid and handle. The epoxy glue will secure pretty
>> much anything to anything. A small two tube kit of 5 minute epoxy
>> costs about $5 in the US.

>
> My only concern about glueing it is that the screw thread will get hot
> - is epoxy glue OK at quite high temperatures?
>


No, epoxy will become soft. There might be some high temperature epoxies
around but don't know any. The toothpick thing may work but I never had much
luck with it as it usually comes apart, given enough time.

I just fixed one for my MIL. She bought a repair handle kit but took me
about 1/2 hour to put it together. I had to grind the existing threaded stud
on the cover off and drill a new hole to receive the new handle. But the
inside thread (female) on the new handle stripped too so I had to tap
(re-thread) out the handle, drill a larger hole on the cover and find a
matching screw. Now its better than new.

She has now a bunch of covers with broken handles for me to fix but she has
no idea of how much time require to fix it and I'm not going to tell her. I
think I'm going to invest in a plastic welder. :-)






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"Jack" > wrote:
>> My only concern about glueing it is that the screw thread will get hot
>> - is epoxy glue OK at quite high temperatures?
>>

>
> No, epoxy will become soft. There might be some high temperature epoxies
> around but don't know any. The toothpick thing may work but I never had
> much luck with it as it usually comes apart, given enough time.


Most epoxies should be able to take the heat, and certainly a high
temperature one would. The peak temperature for a lid would be limited to
about 212 degrees F, the boiling point of water. If one is planning on
putting the lid in the oven, then the temperature could go higher of course,
but most knobs on lids are probably not designed for that to begin with,
except on a few products like Le Creuset's "dutch" ovens.

Here is a list of epoxies by Master Bond, and all have service temperatures
of at least 250 degrees F. Some are in the 400 to 500 degree F range, while
one is 600 degrees F, not that you are going to find it at your local
hardware store. I wouldn't worry about not taking the heat for any stovetop
application.

http://www.masterbond.com/sg/masterbond_2ptsg.pdf

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On Feb 10, 4:19 pm, Cape Cod Bob >
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> Have you tried inserting pieces of toothpick inside the threads to
> give the screw something to bit on?


I didn't have any toothpics so I trimmed some slices off a clothes peg
and it's doing the trick for now although it's difficult to screw down
tight as there's nothing to hold the bolt/screw with as you turn the
handle.

Next time it goes I think I'll try someone's idea of a door knob from
a hardware store - if only to see the reaction when I ask what they
recommend for my situation!

peter

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Feb 2007 05:33:34 -0800, naked_draughtsman wrote:

> I've searched ebay: nothing in the UK where I am but there's one in
> the USA but is probably going to cost more than the new lid which I
> bought! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=200077793221)


Is that really so very expensive for a matching knob? If the seller
doesn't try to make a profit on the shipping, they can send it Global
Priority Mail for $5.25 (about 2.70 GBP), and you'll have it in about a
week. Your total cost, about 7.32 GBP.

In the U.S. generic replacement pot knobs are easily found at just about
any hardware or kitchen supply store. Have you tried equivalent stores
in the UK?

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On Feb 13, 9:07 pm, Seth Goodman > wrote:
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> Feb 2007 05:33:34 -0800, naked_draughtsman wrote:
>
> > I've searched ebay: nothing in the UK where I am but there's one in
> > the USA but is probably going to cost more than the new lid which I
> > bought! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > ViewItem&item=200077793221)

>
> Is that really so very expensive for a matching knob? If the seller
> doesn't try to make a profit on the shipping, they can send it Global
> Priority Mail for $5.25 (about 2.70 GBP), and you'll have it in about a
> week. Your total cost, about 7.32 GBP.
>
> In the U.S. generic replacement pot knobs are easily found at just about
> any hardware or kitchen supply store. Have you tried equivalent stores
> in the UK?


I've never seen pot knobs in hardware stores here, although they do
have wooden/metal ones for cabinets and doors. We don't have a decent
kitchen store here, I got the lid from a department store in town
(6.99 GBP!).

My bits of wood solution is working for now even after washing the
lid. If it goes again I'll try gluing it on or taking the handle off
the new lid!

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"Seth Goodman" > wrote:
> In the U.S. generic replacement pot knobs are easily found at just about
> any hardware or kitchen supply store. Have you tried equivalent stores
> in the UK?


I can't say I've ever seen them in the USA, not that I ever specifically
looked for them. But I do an awful lot of browsing in stores looking at
what's available in all kinds of categories.

Things might have changed in the past few years with regards to availability
of certain things. About a year ago I went into a local Lowe's looking for
replacement glass for an outdoor lighting fixture. I was amazed that the
entire section for replacement glass (both indoor and outdoor fixtures) was
gone! The only thing they had was new glass to mate with new fixtures, so
you could customize something like a new ceiling fan. I guess they weren't
making much money on the replacement glass, so they decided to get rid of
the section completely. I guess if you need replacement glass, you have to
buy a whole new lighting fixture now.

I think this wholesale elimination of certain kinds of repair and
replacement merchandise is becoming more and more common. You are just
supposed to throw the old item out and get a whole new one now.

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> I can't say I've ever seen them in the USA, not that I ever specifically
> looked for them. But I do an awful lot of browsing in stores looking at
> what's available in all kinds of categories.
>


Try a neighborhood hardware store - *not* a big box store. They'll have
a cooking section that includes replacement pot knobs. Or google for
"replacement pot knob". There does seem to be only one brand ("Fitz-
all"), but it appears to be widely available, in a number of different
styles.

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"Seth Goodman" > wrote:
> Try a neighborhood hardware store - *not* a big box store. They'll have
> a cooking section that includes replacement pot knobs. Or google for
> "replacement pot knob". There does seem to be only one brand ("Fitz-
> all"), but it appears to be widely available, in a number of different
> styles.


Unfortunately, my neighborhood hardware store doesn't have them either. Not
that I need the knobs personally, as all my pots have welded or riveted on
handles. The market for a lot of things is just fading out as we move to a
throw away society. Just buy a whole new item, don't repair the old one.

My neighborhood hardware store does have a lot of things the big box stores
don't have. One thing I like is their "screw room". The walls are lined with
boxes of screws and other small hardware that are sold by the piece. When
you need just one screw of a certain diameter and thread, of a certain
length, in a certain material, they have it. I hate having to buy a
multipack of screws at a big box store when I know I am only going to use
just one. They also have a wider selection of light bulbs of all sorts than
the big box stores.

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wff_ng_7 wrote:

> "Seth Goodman" > wrote:
>
>> In the U.S. generic replacement pot knobs are easily found at just about
>> any hardware or kitchen supply store. Have you tried equivalent stores
>> in the UK?

>
>
> I can't say I've ever seen them in the USA, not that I ever specifically
> looked for them. But I do an awful lot of browsing in stores looking at
> what's available in all kinds of categories.
>
> Things might have changed in the past few years with regards to
> availability of certain things. About a year ago I went into a local
> Lowe's looking for replacement glass for an outdoor lighting fixture. I
> was amazed that the entire section for replacement glass (both indoor
> and outdoor fixtures) was gone! The only thing they had was new glass to
> mate with new fixtures, so you could customize something like a new
> ceiling fan. I guess they weren't making much money on the replacement
> glass, so they decided to get rid of the section completely. I guess if
> you need replacement glass, you have to buy a whole new lighting fixture
> now.
>
> I think this wholesale elimination of certain kinds of repair and
> replacement merchandise is becoming more and more common. You are just
> supposed to throw the old item out and get a whole new one now.
>

Don't go to the big box stores, go to a local hardware store. We have
four in the area, family run, they always have replacement glass. May
not be a perfect match but will fit the fixture easily. Same with stove
knobs, electric stove burners, spill pans, etc.

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"George Shirley" > wrote:
> Don't go to the big box stores, go to a local hardware store. We have four
> in the area, family run, they always have replacement glass. May not be a
> perfect match but will fit the fixture easily.


Not always true. As it turns out, the last place I saw the particular
replacement glass I needed was a big box store. But that's somewhat beside
the point. Certain items of replacement glass cannot be gotten from any
source because they are no longer manufactured. Other items can only be mail
ordered or special ordered due to the low demand. And I'm not talking
Victorian era glass, or glass from the early 20th century. I'm talking glass
for fixtures produced and commonly used in the 1960s.

Both the interior and exterior fixtures on my house use glass globes that
have a 3 inch threaded neck rather than using 3 set screws to secure them.
The design was common at the time the houses were built, but is long gone.
The exterior 6 inch diameter globes are still available, but only by special
order. The larger interior 8 inch diameter globes have not been manufactured
in a while. I occassionally scout the neighborhood when people are doing
remodeling, and have managed to secure two 8 inch globes as spares.

I wanted to keep those particular light fixtures because the echo the
outdoor grounds lighting in our development, and I also wanted to maintain
certain "period" aspects of my house. One can get a new glass globe fixture
that looks very similar, but uses the 3 screw attachment method. I did get a
new one temporarily until I acquired a replacement globe for the old one.
The construction quality of the new fixture was abysmal compared to the old
one. Much thinner metal, thinner plating, plastic vs. porcelain socket, etc.
The saying "they don't build them like they used to" is so true, though I'm
sure people in the 1960s were saying that when comparing with things made in
the 1920s.

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