[OT and probably all very silly. You were warned. Proceed no further if
you don't like to be annoyed.]









This has always prodded my curiosity since it all began, and the previous
thread leads me to . . .

"The Original Inspiration"

Ever since Starbucks first made its way north, the name has always prodded
me to think of the BG character "Starbuck" and whether or not this was where
the company name originated. Of course, the original business may pre-date
the movie, thus rendering the point moot. But then again, maybe not.

Now a thread on alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise says the Starbuck character in
the new TV movie is "a dyke". (I missed the show and can't even confirm if
this is true). Cross-reference this to the decor, atmosphere, and
especially, the staff at Starbucks and I think you have a case for a
full-blown conspiracy/cult phenomenon in our very urban midst.

So you have Starbucks and its very distinctive image. How to describe?
Start with the icon. Female, goddess-like, iconographic. Perhaps the name
leads back somewhere in mythology? The names for the products. They force
you to say "extra hot no-whipped caramalized machiatto" instead of "medium
chocolate thingie", so many times you cease to question the rationale. The
names of the snacks. Their choice of music. The observation that if a guy
is working the counter there, he probably could pass for gay.

The whole thing leans towards an atmosphere your average upscale,
gay-leaning urbanite would find comfortable. Not that there's anything
wrong with that. But does this correlate to the entire sea change in
attitudes towards gays and gay culture? Is it a response, or the catalyst?
Is it all subtle and subliminal social engineering? Would your average
redneck homophobe deign to cross the threshold of a Starbucks? Would they
feel threatened?

All I know is a generation ago, a place like Starbucks could not get
established in most North American cities. People wouldn't know what to
make of it. Now they're everywhere and I can't go three days without a
latte.

"Joe" wrote in message
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[OT and probably all very silly. You were warned. Proceed no further if
you don't like to be annoyed.]









This has always prodded my curiosity since it all began, and the previous
thread leads me to . . .

"The Original Inspiration"

Ever since Starbucks first made its way north, the name has always prodded
me to think of the BG character "Starbuck" and whether or not this was
where
the company name originated. Of course, the original business may
pre-date
the movie, thus rendering the point moot. But then again, maybe not.

Now a thread on alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise says the Starbuck character in
the new TV movie is "a dyke". (I missed the show and can't even confirm if
this is true). Cross-reference this to the decor, atmosphere, and
especially, the staff at Starbucks and I think you have a case for a
full-blown conspiracy/cult phenomenon in our very urban midst.

So you have Starbucks and its very distinctive image. How to describe?
Start with the icon. Female, goddess-like, iconographic. Perhaps the
name
leads back somewhere in mythology? The names for the products. They
force
you to say "extra hot no-whipped caramalized machiatto" instead of "medium
chocolate thingie", so many times you cease to question the rationale.
The
names of the snacks. Their choice of music. The observation that if a
guy
is working the counter there, he probably could pass for gay.

The whole thing leans towards an atmosphere your average upscale,
gay-leaning urbanite would find comfortable. Not that there's anything
wrong with that. But does this correlate to the entire sea change in
attitudes towards gays and gay culture? Is it a response, or the
catalyst?
Is it all subtle and subliminal social engineering? Would your average
redneck homophobe deign to cross the threshold of a Starbucks? Would they
feel threatened?

All I know is a generation ago, a place like Starbucks could not get
established in most North American cities. People wouldn't know what to
make of it. Now they're everywhere and I can't go three days without a
latte.

ROTFLMAO!
we're doomed......

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"Joe" wrote in message
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[OT and probably all very silly. You were warned. Proceed no further
if
you don't like to be annoyed.]









This has always prodded my curiosity since it all began, and the
previous
thread leads me to . . .

"The Original Inspiration"

Ever since Starbucks first made its way north, the name has always
prodded
me to think of the BG character "Starbuck" and whether or not this was
where
the company name originated. Of course, the original business may
pre-date
the movie, thus rendering the point moot. But then again, maybe not.

Now a thread on alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise says the Starbuck character
in
the new TV movie is "a dyke". (I missed the show and can't even confirm
if
this is true). Cross-reference this to the decor, atmosphere, and
especially, the staff at Starbucks and I think you have a case for a
full-blown conspiracy/cult phenomenon in our very urban midst.

So you have Starbucks and its very distinctive image. How to describe?
Start with the icon. Female, goddess-like, iconographic. Perhaps the
name
leads back somewhere in mythology? The names for the products. They
force
you to say "extra hot no-whipped caramalized machiatto" instead of
"medium
chocolate thingie", so many times you cease to question the rationale.
The
names of the snacks. Their choice of music. The observation that if a
guy
is working the counter there, he probably could pass for gay.

The whole thing leans towards an atmosphere your average upscale,
gay-leaning urbanite would find comfortable. Not that there's anything
wrong with that. But does this correlate to the entire sea change in
attitudes towards gays and gay culture? Is it a response, or the
catalyst?
Is it all subtle and subliminal social engineering? Would your average
redneck homophobe deign to cross the threshold of a Starbucks? Would
they
feel threatened?

All I know is a generation ago, a place like Starbucks could not get
established in most North American cities. People wouldn't know what to
make of it. Now they're everywhere and I can't go three days without a
latte.

ROTFLMAO!
we're doomed......

Err, wasn't there also a Starbuck in Moby Dick?


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Joe wrote:


Now a thread on alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise says the Starbuck character in
the new TV movie is "a dyke".


I've seen the show, and the new Stabuck character may be a tough chick,
but she had an affair with Adama's son in flight school. So she's not a
"dyke".

Sorta makes the rest of your fevered imaginings pointless.

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"Straker" schreef in bericht
.. .
In article , Wouter Valentijn
wrote:

Err, wasn't there also a Starbuck in Moby Dick?

Must you wreck perfectly good rants by bringing in literary precedents?

That was a perfectly good rant?


--
Wouter Valentijn

www.zeppodunsel.nl www.nksf.nl

"That's right. I'm back. And I'm a BLOODY ANIMAL!"

Spike in "Doomed" ("Buffy The Vampire Slayer", 4x11)

"Straker" schreef in bericht
.. .
In article , Wouter Valentijn
wrote:

Err, wasn't there also a Starbuck in Moby Dick?

Must you wreck perfectly good rants by bringing in literary precedents?

That was a perfectly good rant?


--
Wouter Valentijn

www.zeppodunsel.nl www.nksf.nl

"That's right. I'm back. And I'm a BLOODY ANIMAL!"

Spike in "Doomed" ("Buffy The Vampire Slayer", 4x11)

Joe wrote:

Now they're everywhere and I can't go three days without a
latte.

Shockingly, I've managed to go 52 years without one.

OTOH, I've heard they are so many Starbucks now that they recently
opened a new Starbucks inside a Starbucks.

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

"Straker" schreef in bericht
.. .
In article , Wouter Valentijn
wrote:

Err, wasn't there also a Starbuck in Moby Dick?

Must you wreck perfectly good rants by bringing in literary precedents?

That was a perfectly good rant?

For small values of "perfectly good".