Once again, think twice and thrice before feeding your kids Mountain
Dew soda, Sunkist or other orange-colored soda, Artificial
cherry-flavored soda, or bottled salad dressing containing the
infamous sequestering agent calcium disodium EDTA (a known
kidney toxin).

Tree huggers should stay away from civilization.....
You cannot find peace in the modern world....
Your unenviable life living in fear on what you eat daily is To be
laden with things that you abhor is creating more stress in your
lifestyle.....
you cannot change the modern world you live in nor can you find harmony
in it...youir life is full of paranoia....
There is only one place for you to live in the modern society... The
INSANE ASYLUM.

On 23 Mar 2006 19:28:10 -0800, wrote:

Mark Thorson wrote:
wrote:

Mark Thorson wrote:
Like what? Why don't you quote the best evidence
they have that Red 40 is carcinogenic?

The evidence against Red 40 is pretty cut-and-dry.
It convinced a lot of European governments.

But you can't quote any of it?

Is the best evidence against Red 40
the unsupported assertions of a
scaremongering website?

You and the boron guy seem to be advocates of the additive-laden
food industry.

Yeah, I have raised three children on a diet of nothing but additives.
No foodstuffs allowed. It is the additives that got them on the Dean's
List, I'm sure. I cannot tell you how difficult it is to prepare
meals with nothing other than additives to work with, you dumb cluck.


Here's a peer-reviewed article where the authors
examined
various studies of food dyes and their impact on behavior. This study
is from Columbia University:

You idiot. If you do not have the slightest comprehension of what you
are reading, why bother to post it?

As I mentioned previously, you can find sub-sets people who are
sensitive to almost anything. YOU, on the other hand, claimed the
following:
***********************************************
I have read of a couple studies showing that the banning of
artificial colorings from school cafeteria food resulted in the
reduction of behavioral problems among students in the
school. They seemed to concentrate more and seemed
less hyperactive.
******************************

The study below refers very specifically to children with "hyperactive
syndrome," and is not a general population study.

Get a clue.

Schab DW, Trinh NH. Do artificial food colors promote hyperactivity in
children with hyperactive syndromes? A meta-analysis of double-blind
placebo-controlled trials.
J Dev Behav Pediatr. 2004 Dec;25(6):423-34. Columbia University,
Department of Psychiatry & The New York State Psychiatric Institute,
New York, New York 10032, USA. ABSTRACT:
Burgeoning estimates of the prevalence of childhood
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) raise the possibility
of a widespread risk factor. We seek to assess whether artificial food
colorings (AFCs) contribute to the behavioral symptomatology of
hyperactive syndromes. We searched ten electronic databases for
double-blind placebo-controlled trials evaluating the effects of AFCs.
Fifteen trials met the primary inclusion criteria. Meta-analytic
modeling determined the overall effect size of AFCs on hyperactivity to
be 0.283 (95% CI, 0.079 to 0.488), falling to 0.210 (95% CI, 0.007 to
0.414) when the smallest and lowest quality trials were excluded.
Trials screening for responsiveness before enrollment demonstrated the
greatest effects. Despite indications of publication bias and other
limitations, this study is consistent with accumulating evidence that
neurobehavioral toxicity may characterize a variety of widely
distributed chemicals. Improvement in the identification of responders
is required before strong clinical recommendations can be made.


Once again, think twice and thrice before feeding your kids Mountain
Dew soda, Sunkist or other orange-colored soda, Artificial
cherry-flavored soda, or bottled salad dressing containing the
infamous sequestering agent calcium disodium EDTA (a known
kidney toxin).

Think twice about posting to Usenet.Fewer people will think you have
terminal idiocy.

Boron

Chembake wrote:
Once again, think twice and thrice before feeding your kids Mountain
Dew soda, Sunkist or other orange-colored soda, Artificial
cherry-flavored soda, or bottled salad dressing containing the
infamous sequestering agent calcium disodium EDTA (a known
kidney toxin).

Tree huggers should stay away from civilization.....
You cannot find peace in the modern world....
Your unenviable life living in fear on what you eat daily is To be
laden with things that you abhor is creating more stress in your
lifestyle.....
you cannot change the modern world you live in nor can you find
harmony in it...youir life is full of paranoia....
There is only one place for you to live in the modern society... The
INSANE ASYLUM.

I have to disagree. While I for one am not about to launch into a
macrobiotic diet, I think that avoiding ingesting such things as pesticides,
artificial food additives, and dyes is a wise precaution for which there is
ample evidence.

On 23 Mar 2006 18:11:39 , wrote

Mark Thorson wrote:
Like what? Why don't you quote the best evidence
they have that Red 40 is carcinogenic?

You have been hoodwinked by health charlatans
trying to sell you stuff you don't need.

The evidence against Red 40 is pretty cut-and-dry. It convinced
a lot of European governments. If you are one of those who
eat a lot of processed, additive-laden foods, and you're proud
of it, well, we will just have to agree to disagree.

However, I would encourage you to try the following experiment:
For an entire week, eat nothing but unsweetened oatmeal with
water, fresh walnuts, Japanese green tea, and fresh apples.
You will likely experience the equivalent of a religious
revelation, the great revolution that comes when one makes the
transition from the processed American diet to the more
macrobiotic diet.

--Alf

Where is your degree in dietary science or nutrition that
can allow you to make such malnutricious suggestions.

PS: Are you aware that consumption of dairy products like milk
and cheese can saturate the body with foreign animal proteins,
triggering an immune response commonly known as rheumatoid
arthritis?


Actually that is totally unclear. In some people with particular
problems that may be the case but it is far from a general rule.

You are either a dupe of diet quacks or a troll.

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

wrote:

Mark Thorson wrote:
wrote:

Mark Thorson wrote:
Like what? Why don't you quote the best evidence
they have that Red 40 is carcinogenic?

The evidence against Red 40 is pretty cut-and-dry.
It convinced a lot of European governments.

But you can't quote any of it?

Is the best evidence against Red 40
the unsupported assertions of a
scaremongering website?

You and the boron guy seem to be advocates of the additive-laden
food industry. Here's a peer-reviewed article where the authors
examined
various studies of food dyes and their impact on behavior. This study
is from Columbia University:

That has nothing to do with the untrue assertion
that Red 40 is carcinogenic.

May I now assume that the ONLY evidence
you have that Red 40 is carcinogenic
is the unsupported assertions of a
scaremongering website?

You have swallowed those assertions
hook, line, and sinker WITHOUT any
scientific evidence.

That makes you a fool. An ignorant,
hoodwinked fool.

wrote:

I am not paranoid if anything I am too rational.
Those who are too rational are often thought of as
being at least somewhat non-sane.

For sure they cause the LOON ALERT sign
to start flashing.

Especially when they start ranting and
raving about EMULSIFIERS.

have to disagree. While I for one am not about to launch into a
macrobiotic diet, I think that avoiding ingesting such things as pesticides,
artificial food additives, and dyes is a wise precaution for which there is
ample evidence

Ample evidence....? iblown out of proportion by the press...?
Whatever evidence there is presented in an exaggerated
manner....therefore its half truth...
Well you have your choice and I leave it to you,
On further mention
Look in food additive testing,,,,its done ins doses which are
unimaginably exaggerated proportions..a myriad times the normal usage
level.... just to induce the desired effect...

Can you consideder that evaluation as reasonable and sensible?


Additives if used carefully is safe...but regardless of its safety,,,
there are hypersensitive indivudals that are allergic to it ( no
diffferent from allergies to what is considered perfectly natural
foods ) and its exacerbated if the particular person has a neurotic
mind....

Chembake wrote:
have to disagree. While I for one am not about to launch into a
macrobiotic diet, I think that avoiding ingesting such things as
pesticides, artificial food additives, and dyes is a wise precaution
for which there is ample evidence

Ample evidence....? iblown out of proportion by the press...?
Whatever evidence there is presented in an exaggerated
manner....therefore its half truth...
Well you have your choice and I leave it to you,
On further mention
Look in food additive testing,,,,its done ins doses which are
unimaginably exaggerated proportions..a myriad times the normal usage
level.... just to induce the desired effect...

Can you consideder that evaluation as reasonable and sensible?


Additives if used carefully is safe...but regardless of its safety,,,
there are hypersensitive indivudals that are allergic to it ( no
diffferent from allergies to what is considered perfectly natural
foods ) and its exacerbated if the particular person has a neurotic
mind....

I certainly agree that some individuals seem to be prone to claiming
imaginary allergies or inflating a sensitivity into an allergy and falling
under the sway of quack allergists. (I think it makes them feel important. )

I also agree that the way nutritional news is reported to the public (Eggs
are Bad For You...NO!....Eggs are Good For You!!) is often misleading and
confusing.

I also agree that there are additives that would appear to be safe if taken
in small quantities. That does not mean that pesticide residues are
necessarily harmless to humans, or that some food colorings are harmless, or
that additives should be consumed freely. One thing to consider is that the
effects of allergens can be cumulative, and as lifetime exposure increases,
so can sensitivity. (This can be true of poison ivy, shellfish, and bee
stings, so why not food additives?) It seems to me that the jury is still
out on whether the cumulative exposure to all kinds of potentially toxic
substances, from pesticides to cleaning products to preservatives, that is
inherent in modern life will turn out to have something to do with rates of
breast cancer or autism and so on.

Look, Wheyface--

Resorting to name calling is not going to
advance your counter-arguments, you
banana-brain, you vaghina-head, you
wenis-penis, you slime-o'-the-ocean
SLUT PUPPY!


Thanks.

--alf

wrote:

Look, Wheyface--

Resorting to name calling is not going to
advance your counter-arguments, you
banana-brain, you vaghina-head, you
wenis-penis, you slime-o'-the-ocean
SLUT PUPPY!

This is how you respond when asked
to back up your false accusations
with evidence.

You have no evidence. You just
dodge and weave, and finally end
with an outburst of invective
when asked for evidence.

There is no evidence. Godiva uses
nothing in their chocolates that
isn't perfectly safe to eat.

In article .com,
wrote:
I had an argument with a cashier at a Godiva Chocolatier shop the other
day. I expressed disdain for Godiva Chocolates, because they claim to
be a "gourmet" chocolate maker, yet they contaminate their chocolates

You just might have to stop buying Godiva chocolates, then.


--
"The result of this experiment was inconclusive, so we had to use
statistics." (Overheard at international physics conference)