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Old 21-12-2004, 02:42 AM
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Default molds for chocolate

I was wondering if anyone here knows of some good places to find
chocolate molds.

Also, I have been searching for molds on the Internet and have found
some really nice metal antique ones. What is the best material for
molds? Is metal better than plastic?

Thanks a lot!

SC

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Old 21-12-2004, 04:47 PM
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"SC" wrote in message
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I was wondering if anyone here knows of some good places to find
chocolate molds.

Also, I have been searching for molds on the Internet and have found
some really nice metal antique ones. What is the best material for
molds? Is metal better than plastic?

Thanks a lot!

SC

I've never used metal, but I have to think that plastic is better. Rigid
plastic is the best. You can get a range of professional molds (Chocolate
World, other Eurpean manufacturers) from Chocolat Chocolat in Canada (nice
people and good service) and from Tomric in the US (Tomric also sells the
cheap bendy kind, if that's what you want.). Tomric has a catalog. Chocolat
Chocolat has a web site that has most of the Chocolate World line on it,
although they carry more than is pictured there.

What kind of thing were you planning to make? 3-D figures, or molded
chocolates? If the latter, ther rigid, heavy-duty professional molds are
infinitely easier to use than the kind you usually see.


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Old 21-12-2004, 09:35 PM
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Thanks for the help Janet. I think for now I am going to just make
molded chocolates.

I'll make sure to check out these websites!

SC

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Old 22-12-2004, 01:45 AM
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Thanks Alex. I found some flexable plastic ones. I can see them
breaking eventually, but they were dirt cheap, so I don't care.

I'd love some of the antique metal ones but they (one) are expensive
and (two) if they are really antique, how does one know that they are
still food grade?

SC

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Old 22-12-2004, 02:13 AM
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Alex Rast wrote:

Ideally, one would want a flexible, nonreactive metal mould - thin
stainless steel or perhaps tin or brass. Generally, however, it seem
these are hard to find except as antiques. I'd look for a good
antique set - if you've found some online, I'd investigate those.


eBay has antique metal molds all the time. Anton Reiche molds
are specifically praised in Whymper for their plating, which is
nickel. The base material appears to be steel (they rust).
Unfortunately, most Reiche molds will have rust.






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Old 22-12-2004, 02:13 AM
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Alex Rast wrote:

Ideally, one would want a flexible, nonreactive metal mould - thin
stainless steel or perhaps tin or brass. Generally, however, it seem
these are hard to find except as antiques. I'd look for a good
antique set - if you've found some online, I'd investigate those.


eBay has antique metal molds all the time. Anton Reiche molds
are specifically praised in Whymper for their plating, which is
nickel. The base material appears to be steel (they rust).
Unfortunately, most Reiche molds will have rust.






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Old 22-12-2004, 06:01 AM
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Alex Rast wrote:
at Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:47:07 GMT in fsYxd.5834$152.1498@trndny01,
(Janet Puistonen) wrote :



"SC" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was wondering if anyone here knows of some good places to find
chocolate molds.

Also, I have been searching for molds on the Internet and have found
some really nice metal antique ones. What is the best material for
molds? Is metal better than plastic?

Thanks a lot!

SC

I've never used metal, but I have to think that plastic is better.
Rigid plastic is the best.


Why would you think plastic would be better? IMHO plastic would be
worse, because the chocolate picks up odours from the plastic and
develops a plasticky flavour. Furthermore, virtually all plastic
pieces are more breakable than metal, so in the long run you'll
probably lose the moulds to breakage.


The major reason I assume they are better is because professional
chocolatiers choose to use them.

The professional molds I use do not pick up flavors or odors and certainly
do not make chocolate taste of plastic. They are extremely strong, and I
cannot imagine how I could break one--except perhaps with an axe.

Metal molds are if anything more "breakable" because they can be bent and
dinged easily.

The only advantage I can see to plastic moulds is with the flexible
ones, where you can pop it out of the mould, eliminating any
demoulding difficulties, but this wouldn't apply to the rigid plastic
ones.


Molded chocolates release and pop out of the rigid molds easily when they
are "done." Flexible molds, on the other hand, are harder to use and easy
to damage. Rigid molds can be cleaned in a dishwasher, and the common type
of flexible ones cannot (they warp).

Ideally, one would want a flexible, nonreactive metal mould - thin
stainless steel or perhaps tin or brass. Generally, however, it seems
these are hard to find except as antiques. I'd look for a good
antique set - if you've found some online, I'd investigate those.


With all due respect, I think that would be a huge waste of money if you
actually want to use the molds to make chocolates. If you want to collect
them for the fun of it, go ahead.

Do be aware that there is a big difference between a professional-quality
mold and one of those bendy things that can also be used to make soap or
candles.
--
Janet

Dear Artemesia! Poetry's a Sna/Bedlam has many Mansions:have a
ca/ Your Muse diverts you, makes the Reader sad:/ You think your
self inspir'd; He thinks you mad.


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Old 22-12-2004, 06:01 AM
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Alex Rast wrote:
at Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:47:07 GMT in fsYxd.5834$152.1498@trndny01,
(Janet Puistonen) wrote :



"SC" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was wondering if anyone here knows of some good places to find
chocolate molds.

Also, I have been searching for molds on the Internet and have found
some really nice metal antique ones. What is the best material for
molds? Is metal better than plastic?

Thanks a lot!

SC

I've never used metal, but I have to think that plastic is better.
Rigid plastic is the best.


Why would you think plastic would be better? IMHO plastic would be
worse, because the chocolate picks up odours from the plastic and
develops a plasticky flavour. Furthermore, virtually all plastic
pieces are more breakable than metal, so in the long run you'll
probably lose the moulds to breakage.


The major reason I assume they are better is because professional
chocolatiers choose to use them.

The professional molds I use do not pick up flavors or odors and certainly
do not make chocolate taste of plastic. They are extremely strong, and I
cannot imagine how I could break one--except perhaps with an axe.

Metal molds are if anything more "breakable" because they can be bent and
dinged easily.

The only advantage I can see to plastic moulds is with the flexible
ones, where you can pop it out of the mould, eliminating any
demoulding difficulties, but this wouldn't apply to the rigid plastic
ones.


Molded chocolates release and pop out of the rigid molds easily when they
are "done." Flexible molds, on the other hand, are harder to use and easy
to damage. Rigid molds can be cleaned in a dishwasher, and the common type
of flexible ones cannot (they warp).

Ideally, one would want a flexible, nonreactive metal mould - thin
stainless steel or perhaps tin or brass. Generally, however, it seems
these are hard to find except as antiques. I'd look for a good
antique set - if you've found some online, I'd investigate those.


With all due respect, I think that would be a huge waste of money if you
actually want to use the molds to make chocolates. If you want to collect
them for the fun of it, go ahead.

Do be aware that there is a big difference between a professional-quality
mold and one of those bendy things that can also be used to make soap or
candles.
--
Janet

Dear Artemesia! Poetry's a Sna/Bedlam has many Mansions:have a
ca/ Your Muse diverts you, makes the Reader sad:/ You think your
self inspir'd; He thinks you mad.


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Old 22-12-2004, 06:03 AM
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SC wrote:
Thanks Alex. I found some flexable plastic ones. I can see them
breaking eventually, but they were dirt cheap, so I don't care.

I'd love some of the antique metal ones but they (one) are expensive
and (two) if they are really antique, how does one know that they are
still food grade?

SC


If you want to make a few chocolates for a hobby, clear flexible molds can
be had cheaply at every craft store. They are sold in zillions of shapes by
hundreds of online sites. Do a search on candymaking or chocolate molds and
you'll find dozens. They usually cost less than $3 each.

But if you really want to make chocolates, you will get a much better result
with a rigid mold.
--
Janet

Dear Artemesia! Poetry's a Sna/Bedlam has many Mansions:have a
ca/ Your Muse diverts you, makes the Reader sad:/ You think your
self inspir'd; He thinks you mad.


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Old 22-12-2004, 06:03 AM
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SC wrote:
Thanks Alex. I found some flexable plastic ones. I can see them
breaking eventually, but they were dirt cheap, so I don't care.

I'd love some of the antique metal ones but they (one) are expensive
and (two) if they are really antique, how does one know that they are
still food grade?

SC


If you want to make a few chocolates for a hobby, clear flexible molds can
be had cheaply at every craft store. They are sold in zillions of shapes by
hundreds of online sites. Do a search on candymaking or chocolate molds and
you'll find dozens. They usually cost less than $3 each.

But if you really want to make chocolates, you will get a much better result
with a rigid mold.
--
Janet

Dear Artemesia! Poetry's a Sna/Bedlam has many Mansions:have a
ca/ Your Muse diverts you, makes the Reader sad:/ You think your
self inspir'd; He thinks you mad.


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Old 22-12-2004, 02:26 PM
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Thanks again to everyone. Janet which company is your favorite for
good study plastic molds?

SC

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Old 23-12-2004, 12:12 AM
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Thanks again to everyone. Janet which company is your favorite for
good study plastic molds?

SC


I've bought all of my molds from Chocolat Chocolat.They carry several
product lines, not all of which are on the web site, but there's plenty
there. (Be prepared to pay over $20 for a professional mold, no matter who
you buy from.) The people at ACMC, who also make tempering machines, were
selling a limited range of professional molds at a discount recently. You
might want to check their web site.


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Old 23-12-2004, 02:35 PM
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Janet Puistonen wrote:
"SC" wrote in message
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Thanks again to everyone. Janet which company is your favorite for
good study plastic molds?

SC

I just remembered that J.B. Prince has them also, and I've bought some
there. There's both a website and a catalog.
--
Janet

Dear Artemesia! Poetry's a Sna/Bedlam has many Mansions:have a
ca/ Your Muse diverts you, makes the Reader sad:/ You think your
self inspir'd; He thinks you mad.


 




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