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Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!



 
 
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Old 25-04-2008, 10:17 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
Mark Thorson
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Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

Bad news for chocolate. Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. :-(


Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.

BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.

OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.

DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.

RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.

CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.
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Old 26-04-2008, 12:58 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
RuF
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Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

Mark Thorson wrote:
Bad news for chocolate. Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. :-(


Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.

BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.

OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.

DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.

RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.

CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.



SUPER news for me Mark. I have low blood pressure,
so I need a boost.

Now where did I put that bucket of 72% chocs?

Yum! Yum!
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Old 26-04-2008, 04:24 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
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Posts: 4
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

On Apr 25, 2:17*pm, Mark Thorson wrote:
Bad news for chocolate. *Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. * *:-(

Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.

BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.

OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.

DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.

RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.

CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.


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Old 26-04-2008, 04:29 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
Kevysmom
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Posts: 2
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

Its good for you, thens its NOT good for you! Heck, a little bit wont
do anyone harm!


On Apr 25, 5:17 pm, Mark Thorson wrote:
Bad news for chocolate. Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. :-(

Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.

BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.

OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.

DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.

RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.

CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.


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Old 26-04-2008, 04:50 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
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Posts: 4
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

On Apr 25, 8:24*pm, |"
wrote:
On Apr 25, 2:17*pm, Mark Thorson wrote:

Bad news for chocolate. *Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. * *:-(


Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.


BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.


OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.


DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.


RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.


CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.


If only poor ate chocolate, it would either be taxed
like tobacco or it would banned and its users
put away for 20 years at least in the great
State of Texas. Chocolate is a soft drug.
Just say No to chocolate.

It speeds the pulse.
It has weak aphordisiac.
It gives a sense of well being.
It contains those dangerous Advanced Gylcation Endproducts.
It alkaloids speed the death of the bone building cells.
It contains white sugar and often milk.
It is even known to contain the deadly peanut at times.


It is a foodstuff only suitable to college aged Democrats and the
Dutch.
Obama and McCain distributed chocolates when they
were younger in order to influence young women.
Were these youthful indiscretions on there parts?
Or where they benefiting from exploited workers of
the third world. TV network news reporters want to know.
During the next election related debate, they will
ask this vital question.

Perhaps in the future Mark Thorson will ask
that chocolate, be made a prescription item.
Perhaps he will hope the research will prove it is suitable for
use in terminal cancer patients only.
And then only after a double blinded cross over study
following the patients unto the end life and provided no
deaths occur during the study should chocolate
products be permitted in the hands of the public by
the all knowing US-FDA..
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 26-04-2008, 05:05 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
Kevysmom
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Posts: 2
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!


Obama and McCain distributed chocolates when they
were younger in order to influence young women.
Were these youthful indiscretions on there parts?
Or where they benefiting from exploited workers of
the third world. TV network news reporters want to know.
During the next election related debate, they will
ask this vital question.




Laughing out loud! Thats was truly funny! BTW, Texas is not great,
Bush is from texas!

On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, |"
wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:24 pm, |"



wrote:
On Apr 25, 2:17 pm, Mark Thorson wrote:


Bad news for chocolate. Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. :-(


Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.


BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.


OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.


DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.


RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.


CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.


If only poor ate chocolate, it would either be taxed
like tobacco or it would banned and its users
put away for 20 years at least in the great
State of Texas. Chocolate is a soft drug.
Just say No to chocolate.

It speeds the pulse.
It has weak aphordisiac.
It gives a sense of well being.
It contains those dangerous Advanced Gylcation Endproducts.
It alkaloids speed the death of the bone building cells.
It contains white sugar and often milk.
It is even known to contain the deadly peanut at times.

It is a foodstuff only suitable to college aged Democrats and the
Dutch.
Obama and McCain distributed chocolates when they
were younger in order to influence young women.
Were these youthful indiscretions on there parts?
Or where they benefiting from exploited workers of
the third world. TV network news reporters want to know.
During the next election related debate, they will
ask this vital question.

Perhaps in the future Mark Thorson will ask
that chocolate, be made a prescription item.
Perhaps he will hope the research will prove it is suitable for
use in terminal cancer patients only.
And then only after a double blinded cross over study
following the patients unto the end life and provided no
deaths occur during the study should chocolate
products be permitted in the hands of the public by
the all knowing US-FDA..


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Old 26-04-2008, 02:24 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
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Posts: 4
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

On Apr 25, 9:05*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Obama and McCain distributed chocolates when they
were younger in order to influence young women.
Were these youthful indiscretions on there parts?
Or where they benefiting from exploited workers of
the third world. TV network news reporters want to know.
During the next election related debate, they will
ask this vital question.


Laughing out loud! Thats was truly funny! BTW, Texas is not great,
Bush is from texas!


I certainly committed enough typos in the riff.
My list of chocolate related effects wasn't a parody but
of course much of the content was parody and a
bit gentle mocking with a number of serious points
to be made. Including what I see as the "logic" of
of Mark's reasonings.



On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, |"

wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:24 pm, |"


wrote:
On Apr 25, 2:17 pm, Mark Thorson wrote:


Bad news for chocolate. *Raises heart rate,
otherwise nothing. * *:-(


Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):872-80.
A double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized
trial of the effects of dark chocolate and cocoa
on variables associated with neuropsychological
functioning and cardiovascular health: clinical
findings from a sample of healthy, cognitively
intact older adults.
Crews WD Jr, Harrison DW, Wright JW.
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University, Blacksburg, VA 24506, USA.


BACKGROUND: In recent years, there has been
increased interest in the potential health-
related benefits of antioxidant- and
phytochemical-rich dark chocolate and cocoa.


OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to
examine the short-term (6 wk) effects of dark
chocolate and cocoa on variables associated
with neuropsychological functioning and
cardiovascular health in healthy older adults.


DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled,
fixed-dose, parallel-group clinical trial was
used. Participants (n = 101) were randomly
assigned to receive a 37-g dark chocolate bar
and 8 ounces (237 mL) of an artificially
sweetened cocoa beverage or similar placebo
products each day for 6 wk.


RESULTS: No significant group (dark chocolate
and cocoa or placebo)-by-trial (baseline,
midpoint, and end-of-treatment assessments)
interactions were found for the
neuropsychological, hematological, or blood
pressure variables examined. In contrast, the
midpoint and end-of-treatment mean pulse rate
assessments in the dark chocolate and cocoa
group were significantly higher than those
at baseline and significantly higher than
the midpoint and end-of-treatment rates in
the control group. Results of a follow-up
questionnaire item on the treatment products
that participants believed they had consumed
during the trial showed that more than half
of the participants in both groups correctly
identified the products that they had
ingested during the experiment.


CONCLUSIONS: This investigation failed to
support the predicted beneficial effects
of short-term dark chocolate and cocoa
consumption on any of the neuropsychological
or cardiovascular health-related variables
included in this research. Consumption of
dark chocolate and cocoa was, however,
associated with significantly higher pulse
rates at 3- and 6-wk treatment assessments.


If only the poor ate chocolate, it would either be taxed
like tobacco or it would banned and its users
put away for 20 years at least in the great
State of Texas. Chocolate is a soft drug.
Just say No to chocolate.


It speeds the pulse.
It has weak aphordisiac properties unsuitable to the masses.
It gives a sense of well being.
It contains those dangerous Advanced Gylcation Endproducts.
It alkaloids speed the death of the bone building cells.
It contains white sugar and often milk.
It is even known to contain the deadly peanut at times.


It is a foodstuff only suitable to college aged Democrats and the
Dutch.
Obama and McCain distributed chocolates when they
were younger in order to influence young women.
Were these youthful indiscretions on there parts?
Or where they benefiting from exploited workers of
the third world. TV network news reporters want to know.
During the next election related debate, they will
ask this vital question.


Perhaps in the future Mark Thorson will ask
that chocolate, be made a prescription item.
Perhaps he will hope the research will prove it is suitable for
use in terminal cancer patients only.
And then only after a double blinded cross over study
following the patients unto the end life and provided no
deaths occur during the study should chocolate
products be permitted in the hands of the public by
the all knowing US-FDA..


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Old 04-05-2008, 02:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med.nutrition,rec.food.chocolate
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
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Posts: 4
Default Chocolate DEBUNKED !!!

On May 3, 5:08*pm, Marshall Price wrote:
| wrote:
It contains those dangerous Advanced Gylcation Endproducts.


* *I'm afraid you're getting close to a plonking, Trig. *How could AGEs
get into chocolate?

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c


Sorry, it is a roasted food. This heating pushes sugar into the act
of glycation with other food components and
products are known Advanced Glycation Endproducts,
if memory serves me.

I get lazy and use acronyms. I'll happily expand on a topic if a
question ask. Provided it doesn't involve too much work.
 




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