An oak aged imperial india pale ale, some beer geeks may love what
they may theorize as the subtle interplay betwixt a highgravity uber
ipa and
the side show oak flavor; However they would be propogating a fallacy
in that the beer so aptly named burton baton, whacks the end user over
the head killing the delightful Intense Bitterness (Read
Counterbalance to Intense maltiness), leaving the poor taster with the
impression that he is feasting upon a dry desert of balsawood and
medicinal alcohol. This woody taste/malty texture completely Batons
the pleasing bittering counterbalance one woood expect from an ipa
much less an IMPERIAL IPA.
OK folks please leave oak where it belongs , in wine and bourbon, and
maybe congac.I did however enjoy the 10%abv.


DE~

There are those who have described Dogfish's occasional experiments as
either ecstasy or a train wreck in a bottle. I tend to remember the
positive ones (Midas Touch, 90-Minute, World-Wide Stout well-aged), and try
to forget the train wrecks.

Mind you, I've had--and even made--some superlative oak-aged beers. So do
not rush to judgment based strictly on Burton Baton.

Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
: There are those who have described Dogfish's occasional experiments as
: either ecstasy or a train wreck in a bottle. I tend to remember the
: positive ones (Midas Touch, 90-Minute, World-Wide Stout well-aged), and try
: to forget the train wrecks.
:

Just popped a three year old 120-Minute the other day. It ages well.
The overabudance of bitterness and the cloying sweetness have both
disappeared and it's become a very enjoyable drink with balance leaning
to the malt side.

I liked it enough to grab a dozen bottles from the 2005 batch that was
just released.

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Recently i went to the Maine Brewers Festival and
I got to sample Allagash Brewing Co. 10yr anniversary ale
(Allagash is a Belgian style brew co. ) called the Allagash Curieux
which is their Triple which was aged for 8 weeks
in jim beam barrels....10% abv
it was so ****ing good, that i just stood by the stand and kept getting
refills....it had an excellent malt flavor followed by nice whiskey
overtones..
too bad its like 8$ a 750ml bottle
http://www.allagash.com/curieux.htm

"jazzkid" though dead, wrapped in plastic, said
oups.com:

Recently i went to the Maine Brewers Festival and
I got to sample Allagash Brewing Co. 10yr anniversary ale
(Allagash is a Belgian style brew co. ) called the Allagash Curieux
which is their Triple which was aged for 8 weeks
in jim beam barrels....10% abv
it was so ****ing good, that i just stood by the stand and kept getting
refills....it had an excellent malt flavor followed by nice whiskey
overtones..

Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all remaining
stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.
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jazzkid wrote:
: Recently i went to the Maine Brewers Festival and
: I got to sample Allagash Brewing Co. 10yr anniversary ale
: (Allagash is a Belgian style brew co. ) called the Allagash Curieux
: which is their Triple which was aged for 8 weeks
: in jim beam barrels....10% abv
: it was so ****ing good, that i just stood by the stand and kept getting
: refills....it had an excellent malt flavor followed by nice whiskey
: overtones..
: too bad its like 8$ a 750ml bottle
: http://www.allagash.com/curieux.htm
:

It's well worth that $8 and I'll pay for shipping as well. If I could
find it.

Pizza Port had it at their Belgian Festival back in the spring and we
couldn't get enough of it.

I went home and started looking for it -- no go at the usual good and
great local retailers -- hell, even High Time Cellars didn't have any --
I hunted the usual web sites and nobody had it except for beergeek.com
-- so I ordered some but he wrote back that it was out of stock.

I'd love to get my hands on another bottle of that stuff -- it's one of
those dreams that beers are made of.

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"Dan Iwerks" wrote in message
...
Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all remaining
stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.

So... You don't care for it?

--
Lew Bryson

"As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

www.lewbryson.com

"Alexander D. Mitchell IV" wrote:
There are those who have described Dogfish's occasional
experiments as either ecstasy or a train wreck in a bottle.

I have to admit, I've liked most to all of the experiments,
at least of the ones I've had (I THINK I've missed only
Festina Lente and maybe one other), with only the Liquor
De Malt disappointing me (not a HUGE fan of Midas Touch, but
it's interesting)...

Mind you, I've had--and even made--some superlative oak-aged
beers. So do not rush to judgment based strictly on Burton
Baton.

But I haven't tried this yet, so I'll reserve judgement for now.

"Lew Bryson" wrote:
"Dan Iwerks" wrote:
Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all
remaining stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired
into the sun.

So... You don't care for it?

I'll tell you, I didn't think it was that great either, but
I don't hold that kind of animosity toward it!
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"Lew Bryson" though dead, wrapped in plastic,
said :

"Dan Iwerks" wrote in message
...
Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all remaining
stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.

So... You don't care for it?

Bit of a visceral reaction to that one. I'm not a fan of most barrel-
aged beers, but when I think "hey, I want this to taste a bit like wood
or bourbon", "tripel" is not exactly the style that jumps to mind. IMO,
it's the best tripel in the world, and it was a stinking travesty to do
that to that beer.
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Dan Iwerks wrote:
:
: Bit of a visceral reaction to that one. I'm not a fan of most barrel-
: aged beers, but when I think "hey, I want this to taste a bit like wood
: or bourbon", "tripel" is not exactly the style that jumps to mind. IMO,
: it's the best tripel in the world, and it was a stinking travesty to do
: that to that beer.

Hmmm. Is anyone in the middle on this one or it it one of those beers
that provokes a love it or hate it reaction.

As far as it being the best tripel in the world, well, I think the
tripel that Moortgat brews under the name Maredsous would give it a run
in a side by side test, but I agree to the point that it's definitely
one of the best on the planet.

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Dan Iwerks wrote:
"jazzkid" though dead, wrapped in plastic, said:
I got to sample Allagash Brewing Co. 10yr anniversary ale
(Allagash is a Belgian style brew co. ) called the Allagash Curieux
which is their Triple which was aged for 8 weeks
in jim beam barrels....10% abv
it was so ****ing good, that i just stood by the stand and kept getting
refills....it had an excellent malt flavor followed by nice whiskey
overtones..

Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all remaining
stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.

I thought the bourbon was way too heavy for the base
beer. So, yeah.
--
Joel Plutchak "Eat everything. Have fun." - Julia Child.
plutchak at [...]

(Bill Benzel) though dead, wrapped in plastic, said
:

Dan Iwerks wrote:
:
: Bit of a visceral reaction to that one. I'm not a fan of most
: barrel- aged beers, but when I think "hey, I want this to taste a bit
: like wood or bourbon", "tripel" is not exactly the style that jumps
: to mind. IMO, it's the best tripel in the world, and it was a
: stinking travesty to do that to that beer.

Hmmm. Is anyone in the middle on this one or it it one of those
beers that provokes a love it or hate it reaction.

As far as it being the best tripel in the world, well, I think the
tripel that Moortgat brews under the name Maredsous would give it a
run in a side by side test, but I agree to the point that it's
definitely one of the best on the planet.

I've only had the Maredsous once, but was pretty underwhelmed.
Reasonably certain I may have gotten a bad bottle at the time.

I'd give the closest runner-up to Tripel Karmeliet.
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Joel wrote:

Dan Iwerks wrote:

Allagash Curieux is a shitfest of a liquid abortion and all remaining
stocks should be loaded onto a rocket and fired into the sun.


I thought the bourbon was way too heavy for the base
beer. So, yeah.

Naturally, I kinda liked it. But then, I like Allagash's range in
general. And I liked DFH's Festina Lente - had it @ GABF - and
Russian River's brett-a-rama of beers too. What the hell.
--
dgs

The bp gas station by my house sells the allegash
oak beer you seek. Oddly enough 400 yards down
the road is the Mt. Carmel brewing company.

http://www.mtcarmelbrewingcompany.com/

yeah i couldn't stand the festina lente, the bottle i got was
completely flat. The Aprihop i didn't like either. I am a little
biased
i guess when it comes to interfering with hops.