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Old 06-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Bill Benzel
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Scott Kaczorowski wrote:
: (Bill Benzel) wrote in
: :
:
: Lew Bryson wrote:
::
:: So: I'm thinking about going to the Richmond Bar and
:: Grill in El Segundo, CA just for the beer. Thoughts?
::
:: Starting small is a good way to work out your bigger
:: problems with beer travel. I say Yes!
:
: And review it for us -- I have 90 minutes to drive just to
: get up to Long Beach so I really wanna know if it's worth
: the additional half hour.
:
: Roger on the review.
:
: But if you want to do the 2 hours, I'd pick a visit to Cafe
: Boogaloo (in the relative-same neighborhood as Richmond) and I'm
: *certain* CB will meet your expectations.
:
: Or...come on up for the Lucky Baldwin's IPA Fest (6/18 - 6/26).
:
: I can put you up (couch or tent - your choice) if need be.
:
: I'm pretty sure I will be down for the Real Ale Fest. I'm not
: going to make the trip by myself...but I have a primary and a
: backup and even a tertiary...so...I hope to make it. And if I
: do you can give me grief in person.
:
:

I'm going to have limited time at the fest this weekend -- probably 4 to
about 6:30 Friday and then 11 to 3 or so on Saturday -- old-fart, curly
gray hair, glasses, -- if you know Dr. Bill or the Long BEach Bum either
of them can point you to me.

Thanks for the invite -- Pasadena always feels like a major trip for us
-- no easy way arround the congestion -- one of these days we'll get up
to LBs -- also want to find our way to the Stuffed Sandwich.

We'll try CB next time through the area.

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Old 07-06-2005, 07:03 PM
Scott Kaczorowski
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(Bill Benzel) wrote in
:

Scott Kaczorowski wrote:
:
(Bill Benzel) wrote in
: :
:
: Lew Bryson wrote:
::
:: So: I'm thinking about going to the Richmond Bar and
:: Grill in El Segundo, CA just for the beer. Thoughts?
::
:: Starting small is a good way to work out your bigger
:: problems with beer travel. I say Yes!
:
: And review it for us -- I have 90 minutes to drive just
: to get up to Long Beach so I really wanna know if it's
: worth the additional half hour.
:
: Roger on the review.


A small, local pub. Decorated in the style of Chili's ("Beware
Pickpockets and Loose Women", "Beauty is in the Eye of the
Beerholder", "What are you looking at Numbskull?" [sic] (a Stone
promo sign), "If you're drinking to forget...PLEASE PAY IN ADVANCE!
[sic]", "Rule number 1: The female makes the rules..." The
backbar has a Bud Man neon front and center. The Steam neon at
upper right of the bar? Not even powered up...

Stupid shit like that, and lots of it. And, lots of v intage/repro
metal soda signs. And, it's a small place with much of the wall
opposite the bar made up of mirrors (a lame trick if ever there was
one) instead of wood (which is otherwise evident).

Beers on tap (in order, left to right, looking at Bud Man):

Coors Light
Budweiser
Arrogant *******
Liberty Ale
Red Car IPA
Ale Smith Anvil
Firestone Pale Ale
Beamish stout

I would say that that's actually not a bad selection for the number
of taps. SoCal beers represented, a archetype you don't see as
often as you should, the money-maker or two...

I had the Bad Dog: Allegedly a "4-Alarm" chili dog...If this was
4-Alarm chili, the entry-level Stagg-in-a-box is 10**3**3 alarm
chili. Boring, dull, and then it was bland. Might have made a
decent loose meat sandwich. Beef/pork/chicken (I honestly have no
idea) in a tomato-based sauce with zero spicing as far as I could
tell.

But the dog itself was *fabulous*. Not snappy like some on the
East Coast might look for, but big (d = 1") and meaty and fried
(which I prefer over boiling).

I would say it's not worth your drive, but I will also say that I
absolutely will go back.

There are tables and booths, and none are too close together - I
approve. There is also a patio area at the rear and I approve of
that as well.

It's a local(s) pub. And in that way it is a true pub. Everyone
knew everyone else. The bar is tended by a husband and wife team,
and I like to see that.

It's in an interesting (in a good way) neighborhood. Old brick and
mature ficus. I'm not completely comfortable making the analogy,
but the neighborhood reminded me of that in which Bridgeport lives.
Industrial, and then there's industrial, and then...Turn! Here!
Now! And lo! - there is a gem of an oldenish main street.

I'm going to have limited time at the fest this weekend --
probably 4 to about 6:30 Friday and then 11 to 3 or so on
Saturday


I'll look for you. I think we've met (I invoke the name of
Hollenbeck...)

I know you by name, and I think I met you at QUAFF Anza Borrego one
year. You're welcome in my home. But give me a day or two
notice...

Thanks for the invite -- Pasadena always feels like a major
trip for us --


Pasadena is a good place for beer. A Gordon Biersch certainly not
the equal of the original in San Jose, but still the best I'm aware
of down'ere. Great patio, great food. And then...Lucky Baldwin's.
Crown City. Bonaventure on the way to/from...

It's also a good way to make a day of it: Huntington
Gardens/Library, Gamble House, Vintage Lighting store off Myrtle,
Vintage Hardware, OH! The Craftsman style! I love beer, but the
miles and miles of restored Craftsmans...I could spend hours just
driving at 20mph.

Could? ****. I have.

no easy way arround the congestion -- one of
these days we'll get up to LBs -- also want to find our way
to the Stuffed Sandwich.


2 hours (x2) can be precious hours.

We'll try CB next time through the area.


Highest recommendation. And...you can also do more than just the
CB. A pier with a view of the entire South Bay (PV to Malibu) is
within a block, art galleries, a comedy club, a couple brewpubs
(Manhattan Beach Brewing Co., Redondo Beach Brewing Co. - average
at best but you can bag 'em if you're into that), Naja's...


Scott

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Old 09-06-2005, 05:25 AM
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FYI, a (small) rotating group of homebrewers have a standing meeting
there Wednesdays at 1pm (ish). One guy walks and a couple ride bikes
along the beach bike path to El Segundo (the R B&G is inland a bit, but
not much) and some drive. Feel free to join us.

Cheers,

Fred Waltman
www.FranconiaBeerGuide.com
Marina del Rey, CA

Scott Kaczorowski wrote:
(Bill Benzel) wrote in
:

Scott Kaczorowski wrote:
:
(Bill Benzel) wrote in
: :
:
: Lew Bryson wrote:
::
:: So: I'm thinking about going to the Richmond Bar and
:: Grill in El Segundo, CA just for the beer. Thoughts?
::
:: Starting small is a good way to work out your bigger
:: problems with beer travel. I say Yes!
:
: And review it for us -- I have 90 minutes to drive just
: to get up to Long Beach so I really wanna know if it's
: worth the additional half hour.
:
: Roger on the review.


A small, local pub. Decorated in the style of Chili's ("Beware
Pickpockets and Loose Women", "Beauty is in the Eye of the
Beerholder", "What are you looking at Numbskull?" [sic] (a Stone
promo sign), "If you're drinking to forget...PLEASE PAY IN ADVANCE!
[sic]", "Rule number 1: The female makes the rules..." The
backbar has a Bud Man neon front and center. The Steam neon at
upper right of the bar? Not even powered up...

Stupid shit like that, and lots of it. And, lots of v intage/repro
metal soda signs. And, it's a small place with much of the wall
opposite the bar made up of mirrors (a lame trick if ever there was
one) instead of wood (which is otherwise evident).

Beers on tap (in order, left to right, looking at Bud Man):

Coors Light
Budweiser
Arrogant *******
Liberty Ale
Red Car IPA
Ale Smith Anvil
Firestone Pale Ale
Beamish stout

I would say that that's actually not a bad selection for the number
of taps. SoCal beers represented, a archetype you don't see as
often as you should, the money-maker or two...

I had the Bad Dog: Allegedly a "4-Alarm" chili dog...If this was
4-Alarm chili, the entry-level Stagg-in-a-box is 10**3**3 alarm
chili. Boring, dull, and then it was bland. Might have made a
decent loose meat sandwich. Beef/pork/chicken (I honestly have no
idea) in a tomato-based sauce with zero spicing as far as I could
tell.

But the dog itself was *fabulous*. Not snappy like some on the
East Coast might look for, but big (d = 1") and meaty and fried
(which I prefer over boiling).

I would say it's not worth your drive, but I will also say that I
absolutely will go back.

There are tables and booths, and none are too close together - I
approve. There is also a patio area at the rear and I approve of
that as well.

It's a local(s) pub. And in that way it is a true pub. Everyone
knew everyone else. The bar is tended by a husband and wife team,
and I like to see that.


  #34 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2005, 07:19 PM
Bill Benzel
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Scott Kaczorowski wrote:
:
: FWIW, thanks for not snipping my "review". I just re-read it
: and it was unnecessarily harsh. I like that place a lot.
:

I don't think so -- it sounded to me like you thought the chili was lame
but everything else was OK -- you also said you'd go back.

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