I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.

Joe.

"joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.


The powerful homebrewing lobby will be against you. Not to mention the
hoards of beer drinkers that won't drink canned beer because it tastes
metallic. Or the ones that prefer to drink out of a bottle cuz it don't
dribble as much. And don't forget, there's the health issue of drinking out
of cans. There's no way to see if a mouse got inside till it's too late.

You're in for a tough fight on this one. Best just to move to a better
neighbourhood. ;-)

Brian

"joe" writes:
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house.....

Sounds like you should move.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

"joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.

Does government have to do EVERYTHING for you people?
Buy a gun and a starlight scope, solve the problem yourself.

--
Lew Bryson

God Bless America.
"They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

Brian Lundeen wrote:
"joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.



The powerful homebrewing lobby will be against you. Not to mention the
hoards of beer drinkers that won't drink canned beer because it tastes
metallic. Or the ones that prefer to drink out of a bottle cuz it don't
dribble as much. And don't forget, there's the health issue of drinking out
of cans. There's no way to see if a mouse got inside till it's too late.

You're in for a tough fight on this one. Best just to move to a better
neighbourhood. ;-)

Brian



Not that I'm one to feed a troll, but would he possibly be proposing
plastic bottles? Man, that would suck.

--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.underthecouch.org
..:you may want to fix my email
address before you send anything:.

Some euro countries (Scandinavia & Germany + some US states?) have
incentives to encourage glass being recycled (or beter still, re-used)

It seems that for decent micro & regional beer in UK at least, no-one
is using re-usable bottles, my guess is that it's not in the bottle
manufacturers' interests to make them (or promote them).

I used to work for one of the very few u-brews in UK & we had re-usable
german bottles (green glass tho, for some reason!) to sell to our
customers - great idea, I thought.

AFAIK apart from the positive environmental impact there are no
incentives for brewers or drinkers to reuse or recycle their glass in
UK at present. (apart from at CAMRA beerfests ;~)

On the topic at hand, what do you suggest, Joe - plastic? AFAIK It's
only in the last few years that we've come up with O2-proof plastic,
and while it might be better for your tyres, it's not great for the
environment. (I suspect even less plastic is recycled than glass).
cheers
MikeMcG
U.K.

Some euro countries (Scandinavia & Germany + some US states?) have
incentives to encourage glass being recycled (or beter still, re-used)

It seems that for decent micro & regional beer in UK at least, no-one
is using re-usable bottles, my guess is that it's not in the bottle
manufacturers' interests to make them (or promote them).

I used to work for one of the very few u-brews in UK & we had re-usable
german bottles (green glass tho, for some reason!) to sell to our
customers - great idea, I thought.

AFAIK apart from the positive environmental impact there are no
incentives for brewers or drinkers to reuse or recycle their glass in
UK at present. (apart from at CAMRA beerfests ;~)

On the topic at hand, what do you suggest, Joe - plastic? AFAIK It's
only in the last few years that we've come up with O2-proof plastic,
and while it might be better for your tyres, it's not great for the
environment. (I suspect even less plastic is recycled than glass).
cheers
MikeMcG
U.K.

Lew Bryson wrote:
"joe" wrote:
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.

Does government have to do EVERYTHING for you people?
Buy a gun and a starlight scope, solve the problem yourself.

I did that. Didn't help. I was able to hit the bottles
even more easily, making the problem worse.
--
Joel Plutchak "I'm in beer class / Every Thursday night"
- "Sinister Foxx", _Title TK_, The Breeders

Lew Bryson wrote:
"joe" wrote:
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.

Does government have to do EVERYTHING for you people?
Buy a gun and a starlight scope, solve the problem yourself.

I did that. Didn't help. I was able to hit the bottles
even more easily, making the problem worse.
--
Joel Plutchak "I'm in beer class / Every Thursday night"
- "Sinister Foxx", _Title TK_, The Breeders

On Tue, 3 May 2005, Paul Hobson wrote:

Brian Lundeen wrote:
"joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.



The powerful homebrewing lobby will be against you. Not to mention the
hoards of beer drinkers that won't drink canned beer because it tastes
metallic. Or the ones that prefer to drink out of a bottle cuz it don't
dribble as much. And don't forget, there's the health issue of drinking out
of cans. There's no way to see if a mouse got inside till it's too late.

You're in for a tough fight on this one. Best just to move to a better
neighbourhood. ;-)

Brian



Not that I'm one to feed a troll, but would he possibly be proposing
plastic bottles? Man, that would suck.


I'm wondering whether those new "aluminum bottles" (see Iron City) are
going to take off.

On Tue, 3 May 2005, Paul Hobson wrote:

Brian Lundeen wrote:
"joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.



The powerful homebrewing lobby will be against you. Not to mention the
hoards of beer drinkers that won't drink canned beer because it tastes
metallic. Or the ones that prefer to drink out of a bottle cuz it don't
dribble as much. And don't forget, there's the health issue of drinking out
of cans. There's no way to see if a mouse got inside till it's too late.

You're in for a tough fight on this one. Best just to move to a better
neighbourhood. ;-)

Brian



Not that I'm one to feed a troll, but would he possibly be proposing
plastic bottles? Man, that would suck.


I'm wondering whether those new "aluminum bottles" (see Iron City) are
going to take off.

On 2 May 2005 09:59:24 -0700, "joe" wrote:

~ I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
~ of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
~ glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
~ pass.... just a matter of time.
~
~ Joe.

Drop the drinking age to 18, but ya can't buy glass bottles till
you're 30.

On Mon, 02 May 2005 22:50:39 GMT, "Lew Bryson"
wrote:

"joe" wrote in message
roups.com...
I am tired of driving over broken beer bottles in the street in front
of my house..... everywhere I drive for that matter. I say no more
glass beer bottles! Let's pass some legislation on this. It will
pass.... just a matter of time.

Does government have to do EVERYTHING for you people?
Buy a gun and a starlight scope, solve the problem yourself.

Just what I was thinking Lew. What's the point of you Americans having
all those guns if you're not going to *use* them for something? And
don't give me that deerhunting bullshit :-)

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk

Expletive Deleted wrote:


I'm wondering whether those new "aluminum bottles" (see Iron City) are
going to take off.


Saw a sample of a new aluminum bottle of Budweiser on the counter at a
liquor store just the other day (I guess it was Bud but the "modern"
graphics might have meant it was that Select sh*t, too, I guess), so
it's already got A-B money behind it (not that A-B been all that
successful with "new" packaging lately -don't they try the 1 gallon can
and a magnum bottle every once in awhile? Well, for that matter, they
haven't been too successful with "new" beers, either, I suppose
(Tequiza, anyone?). Poor A-B, looks like they'll just have to live with
only 50% of the market...)

wrote:
Saw a sample of a new aluminum bottle of Budweiser on the counter at a
liquor store just the other day (I guess it was Bud but the "modern"
graphics might have meant it was that Select sh*t, too, I guess), so
it's already got A-B money behind it (not that A-B been all that
successful with "new" packaging lately -don't they try the 1 gallon can
and a magnum bottle every once in awhile? Well, for that matter, they
haven't been too successful with "new" beers, either, I suppose
(Tequiza, anyone?). Poor A-B, looks like they'll just have to live with
only 50% of the market...)

I've seen Michelob in aluminum bottles. I know that A-B said that they would try the new packaging for slower moving
brands, so seeing A-B product in an aluminum bottle means it's not doing too well.

Tom W