That's strange. I usually agree with your taste, but I'd rate later batches
of Edelweiss on near Erdinger-like level (yes, Erdinger, the most boring and
industrial of all German hefeweizens). In fact I have plenty of Edelweiss
left in my fridge from last year that I simply don't know what to do with.

I do remeber that I used to like the stuff years ago though.

// Per

"dgs" wrote in message
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Lew Bryson wrote:

"dgs" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:


http://www.erdinger.com/ Yes, you CAN get it in the US. I do! If
you
get it, MAKE SURE you pour
it correctly. The website has instructions.

Schneider Weisse kicks Erdinger's ass. So does Edelweiss from Austria.
So do several other Bavarian wheat beers.

So what makes Erdinger your yelling-in-all-caps FAVORITE?


Why do Schneider and Edelweiss kick Erdinger's ass, Don? You're guilty
of
the same sin you're accusing the noob of.

Eez my point, ya big lug. Okay, it's a wheat beer. It's got (ooh!
aah! whee!) a web site. So, what makes it a favorite? Proof by
blatant assertion?

Schneider is a benchmark of the Bavarian wheat beer style, with a
substantial history as a commercial brewer of wheat beers, and a
superb range, including a couple that are pretty much export-only;
you won't find them in Bavaria, but they're exported to the USA.
Those would be the Edel-Weisse and the Aventinus Weizen Eisbock
(or is it Eis Weizenbock?). Schneider's wheat beers don't lack for
flavor or body.

Edelweiss - yes, the Austrian beer brewed by national brewing
conglomerate that's now just another chunk of Heineken - makes
a solid, well-executed range of wheat beers, and the flagship
pale Edelweiss has always been a personal favorite.

I could name others, but you get the idea.
--
dgs

Per Samuelsson a écrit :

That's strange. I usually agree with your taste, but I'd rate later batches
of Edelweiss on near Erdinger-like level (yes, Erdinger, the most boring and
industrial of all German hefeweizens). In fact I have plenty of Edelweiss
left in my fridge from last year that I simply don't know what to do with.

I do remeber that I used to like the stuff years ago though.


Could this have anything to do with the brewery producing Edelweiss
being a subsidiary of Heineken since mid-2003 ?
(

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Et comme il ne pouvait répondre, tout bascula dans le néant !!
(F'murrr)

Laurent Mousson, Berne, Switzerland

dgs wrote:
Russ Perry Jr wrote:
dgs wrote:
Schneider Weisse kicks Erdinger's ass.

And Aventinus kicks SW's ass.

Comparing a Weizenbock to a regular-strength wheat beer?

Why not?

Hey, no fair! Compare Aventinus - also brewed by the same
folks who make Schneider Weisse - to Erdinger's Pikantus.

Aventinus kicks Pikantus's ass. :-)

"Lew Bryson" wrote:
Hell with it, I think Edelweiss kicks all their asses.
Aventinus is out of the league.

I hope you mean like a pro-baller in a farm league, but
I get the impression you don't.

But hey, I don't mind... We're all just spouting random
opinions without any (given) basis. Prosit!
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"Per Samuelsson" wrote in message news:z_wMd.16306
That's strange. I usually agree with your taste, but I'd rate later
batches
of Edelweiss on near Erdinger-like level (yes, Erdinger, the most boring
and
industrial of all German hefeweizens). In fact I have plenty of Edelweiss
left in my fridge from last year that I simply don't know what to do with.

I do remeber that I used to like the stuff years ago though.

DAMMIT!

--
Lew Bryson

"GOOD or SHITE?" -- Michael Jackson, "Thriller", 1982
www.lewbryson.com

"Russ Perry Jr" wrote in message news:slapdash-
"Lew Bryson" wrote:
Hell with it, I think Edelweiss kicks all their asses.
Aventinus is out of the league.

I hope you mean like a pro-baller in a farm league, but
I get the impression you don't.

Oh, I did, I did.

--
Lew Bryson

"As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

www.lewbryson.com

Russ Perry Jr wrote:

dgs wrote:

Russ Perry Jr wrote:

dgs wrote:

Schneider Weisse kicks Erdinger's ass.

And Aventinus kicks SW's ass.

Comparing a Weizenbock to a regular-strength wheat beer?

Why not?

It's like comparing an orange to a tangerine or something.

Hey, no fair! Compare Aventinus - also brewed by the same
folks who make Schneider Weisse - to Erdinger's Pikantus.

Aventinus kicks Pikantus's ass. :-)

Just exactly so. ;-)

[...] We're all just spouting random
opinions without any (given) basis. Prosit!

Say it ain't true!
--
dgs

Randal wrote:
That sounds awesome. A hefe is one of the few styles that I seem to be
able to nail when homebrewing.

Doesn't all beer have yeast?

If we're talking about weissbier / hefeweizen, you should refer to them
as either of those names. Hefe is yeast. Weizen is the wheat.
Hefeweizen is the German term and Weissbier is the Bavarian dialect for
it. Weiss being white as the beer is somewhat white in complexion.
blah blah blah. I know. People referring to wheat beers as hefe beers
reminds me of the time I went up to a bar in Heidelberg and asked
for "Three wiess." I figured, "of course I'm referring to beer. i'm
not referring to crayons." Well after a few exchanges, he figured
out I wanted Wiessbiers and not Wiess.

ok, enough bitching. Sorry.

Gerald

"G. Sylvester" wrote in message news:vSGOd.2771
Randal wrote:
That sounds awesome. A hefe is one of the few styles that I seem to be
able to nail when homebrewing.

Doesn't all beer have yeast?

If we're talking about weissbier / hefeweizen, you should refer to them
as either of those names. Hefe is yeast. Weizen is the wheat.
Hefeweizen is the German term and Weissbier is the Bavarian dialect for
it.

Maybe we could just lighten up a bit? Randal obviously knows what the hell
the beer is. And cross-language beer taxonomy is a muddled mess anyway,
particularly in this instance, where the Brothers Widmer have muddied the
waters a bit by calling their unfiltered wheat ale a hefeweizen. I often
refer to the Bavarian wheats as "hefes" when I'm talking with people who
know what one is. We're not in Germany, we're not ordering beers, we're just
discussing. No need to be the Beer Police. Oh, and yes, all beer has yeast,
but most of it has that yeast filtered out (homebrews being (usually) an
obvious exception).

Your story reminds me of going to Wilkes-Barre and ordering the local lager,
Stegmaier. We walked into the first bar of the day, Dukey's, and told the
tarbender "Three Stegmaiers, please." And the guy says, "Oh, three Stegs?
Okay." We felt like we'd somehow screwed up. So when we went to the next
place, we bellied up and sang out, "Three Stegs!" And the man behind the
stick fixes us with the fish eye, and says, wearily, "You want Stegmaiers?"

ok, enough bitching. Sorry.

Understood. Me too.

--
Lew Bryson

"As for talking shit in this NG, Lew, you're the undisputed king, and
that's no SHITE." -- Bob Skilnik, 1/31/02

www.lewbryson.com

Lew Bryson wrote:


Your story reminds me of going to Wilkes-Barre and ordering the local lager,
Stegmaier. We walked into the first bar of the day, Dukey's, and told the
tarbender "Three Stegmaiers, please." And the guy says, "Oh, three Stegs?
Okay." We felt like we'd somehow screwed up. So when we went to the next
place, we bellied up and sang out, "Three Stegs!" And the man behind the
stick fixes us with the fish eye, and says, wearily, "You want Stegmaiers?"

I always wondered if just that sort of confusion contributed to the end
of the last local brewery (pre-micro era) in nearby Allentown. If you
went into a bar and ordered a bottle of their premium beer,
"Perfection", they usually didn't have it. If you ordered a
"Horlacher", *maybe* you'd get one. If you asked for a "Hor'", they'd
point you to the door to upstairs...

" If we're talking about weissbier / hefeweizen, you should refer to them
as either of those names. Hefe is yeast. Weizen is the wheat.
Hefeweizen is the German term and Weissbier is the Bavarian dialect for
it. Weiss being white as the beer is somewhat white in complexion.
blah blah blah. I know. People referring to wheat beers as hefe beers
reminds me of the time I went up to a bar in Heidelberg and asked
for "Three wiess." I figured, "of course I'm referring to beer. i'm
not referring to crayons." Well after a few exchanges, he figured
out I wanted Wiessbiers and not Wiess.


FYI. "Wiess" is unfiltered Kölsch. Obviously not to be had in Heidelberg.
Joris

"The Submarine Captain" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Per Samuelsson a écrit :
Could this have anything to do with the brewery producing Edelweiss
being a subsidiary of Heineken since mid-2003 ?
(

This is a rumour, if you are interested who is with whom:
http://www.wer-zu-wem.de/industrie/Brauerei.html

Greetings
Liane

"L. Uebelein" wrote in message
"The Submarine Captain" schrieb im
Newsbeitrag
...
Per Samuelsson a écrit :
Could this have anything to do with the brewery producing Edelweiss
being a subsidiary of Heineken since mid-2003 ?
(

This is a rumour, if you are interested who is with whom:
http://www.wer-zu-wem.de/industrie/Brauerei.html

Thanks, Liane, great site. But it doesn't say anything about Austrian
breweries.

--
Lew Bryson

God Bless America.
"They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

L. Uebelein wrote:

"The Submarine Captain" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

Per Samuelsson a écrit :
Could this have anything to do with the brewery producing Edelweiss
being a subsidiary of Heineken since mid-2003 ?
(


This is a rumour, if you are interested who is with whom:
http://www.wer-zu-wem.de/industrie/Brauerei.html

Not a rumor. Your site doesn't mention breweries in Austria,
including the one in Hallein that makes the Edelweiss wheat beers.
That brewery, Hofbräu Kaltenhausen, is part of Brau Union, which
is owned by Heineken. You do have the BHI group (Heineken and
Schörghuber) correctly listed as the owners of Hacker-Pschorr and
Paulaner. Your German brewery information looks quite up-to-date.
--
dgs