The best place to drink Ausgustiner indoors is perhaps their new place
alongside the domed cathedral in the centre named "Augustiner am Dom".

generally very crowded and very small. right around the corner is a
place that sells a Krug of bier for 2 Euro. Can't remember what
brewerie but it is a stand-at-the-window kind of place.

The best place to drink Edelstoff outdoors in the Augustiner Keller
beergarden (weather permitting)

definitely. Man, I miss this place.


Oh, the other place that most people miss is Kloster Andechs which
is about a 25-35 drive away. Classic classic place. The restaurant
next door to it served one of very *few* memorable meals while I lived
there with excellent service (service wuerste deutschland) and excellent
food (in a land known for their bier and not for their food).

Gerald

Gerald Sylvester wrote in message .com...
The best place to drink Ausgustiner indoors is perhaps their new place
alongside the domed cathedral in the centre named "Augustiner am Dom".

generally very crowded and very small. right around the corner is a
place that sells a Krug of bier for 2 Euro. Can't remember what
brewerie but it is a stand-at-the-window kind of place.

If it is the one I am thinking about then it is still owned by
Augustiner. Yes, you have to stay standing to get the cheaper beer. I
think it is 2.40 Euros for a half litre.

The best place to drink Edelstoff outdoors in the Augustiner Keller
beergarden (weather permitting)

definitely. Man, I miss this place.


Oh, the other place that most people miss is Kloster Andechs which
is about a 25-35 drive away. Classic classic place. The restaurant
next door to it served one of very *few* memorable meals while I lived
there with excellent service (service wuerste deutschland) and excellent
food (in a land known for their bier and not for their food).

Gerald

If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers. I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

Gerald Sylvester wrote in message .com...
The best place to drink Ausgustiner indoors is perhaps their new place
alongside the domed cathedral in the centre named "Augustiner am Dom".

generally very crowded and very small. right around the corner is a
place that sells a Krug of bier for 2 Euro. Can't remember what
brewerie but it is a stand-at-the-window kind of place.

If it is the one I am thinking about then it is still owned by
Augustiner. Yes, you have to stay standing to get the cheaper beer. I
think it is 2.40 Euros for a half litre.

The best place to drink Edelstoff outdoors in the Augustiner Keller
beergarden (weather permitting)

definitely. Man, I miss this place.


Oh, the other place that most people miss is Kloster Andechs which
is about a 25-35 drive away. Classic classic place. The restaurant
next door to it served one of very *few* memorable meals while I lived
there with excellent service (service wuerste deutschland) and excellent
food (in a land known for their bier and not for their food).

Gerald

If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers. I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers.

it isn't the absolute best but good and the atmosphere
can't be beat.

Another classic place is out near Grafing at a farm house. A real
bier steubl. Has about 5 tables. Typical bavarian snacks. Typical
smoke that you can can't cut a knife through but on a good day might
make an indent. As for the exact location of this, no idea but it is
about a 10 minutes drive from Grafing and literally in the middle
of nowhere. If you want, I can ask my friend for directions there.

I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about. At every place the menu is *identical*. Go
to bier halle for the bier and not the food. in fact, I went for
weisswuerst with some friends and after a couple of bites they asked
what I thought of it. I said it tasted like "meat in a condom." They
said, "we do't exactly like it but it is traditional." Kind of like
Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during Wies'n (and after
skiing). In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl" (exact
name?), "I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

Gerald

If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers.

it isn't the absolute best but good and the atmosphere
can't be beat.

Another classic place is out near Grafing at a farm house. A real
bier steubl. Has about 5 tables. Typical bavarian snacks. Typical
smoke that you can can't cut a knife through but on a good day might
make an indent. As for the exact location of this, no idea but it is
about a 10 minutes drive from Grafing and literally in the middle
of nowhere. If you want, I can ask my friend for directions there.

I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about. At every place the menu is *identical*. Go
to bier halle for the bier and not the food. in fact, I went for
weisswuerst with some friends and after a couple of bites they asked
what I thought of it. I said it tasted like "meat in a condom." They
said, "we do't exactly like it but it is traditional." Kind of like
Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during Wies'n (and after
skiing). In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl" (exact
name?), "I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

Gerald

If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers.

it isn't the absolute best but good and the atmosphere
can't be beat.

Another classic place is out near Grafing at a farm house. A real
bier steubl. Has about 5 tables. Typical bavarian snacks. Typical
smoke that you can can't cut a knife through but on a good day might
make an indent. As for the exact location of this, no idea but it is
about a 10 minutes drive from Grafing and literally in the middle
of nowhere. If you want, I can ask my friend for directions there.

I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about. At every place the menu is *identical*. Go
to bier halle for the bier and not the food. in fact, I went for
weisswuerst with some friends and after a couple of bites they asked
what I thought of it. I said it tasted like "meat in a condom." They
said, "we do't exactly like it but it is traditional." Kind of like
Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during Wies'n (and after
skiing). In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl" (exact
name?), "I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

Gerald

I forgot to mention that Wiessbier (or hefewiezen outside of bavaria) is
only drank out of the bottle and never on tap because all the yeast
(hefe) and flavor would only be on the bottom of the keg. Never
with a lemon although a Russ'n is half weissbier and half lemon-lime
soda (like Sprite). I don't normally drink these but occasionally
they are good when it is hot outside.

Gerald

Gerald Sylvester wrote:
literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about.

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

in fact, I went for weisswuerst with some friends and after a
couple of bites they asked what I thought of it. I said it
tasted like "meat in a condom." They said, "we do't exactly
like it but it is traditional."

Maybe you didn't have the right kind of senf...

Kind of like Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during
Wies'n. In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl"
(exact name?),

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

"I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?
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Gerald Sylvester wrote:
literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about.

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

in fact, I went for weisswuerst with some friends and after a
couple of bites they asked what I thought of it. I said it
tasted like "meat in a condom." They said, "we do't exactly
like it but it is traditional."

Maybe you didn't have the right kind of senf...

Kind of like Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during
Wies'n. In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl"
(exact name?),

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

"I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?
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Gerald Sylvester wrote:
literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about.

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

in fact, I went for weisswuerst with some friends and after a
couple of bites they asked what I thought of it. I said it
tasted like "meat in a condom." They said, "we do't exactly
like it but it is traditional."

Maybe you didn't have the right kind of senf...

Kind of like Wies'n music. Everyone hates it except during
Wies'n. In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl"
(exact name?),

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

"I will survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?
--
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|| Russ Perry Jr 2175 S Tonne Dr #114 Arlington Hts IL 60005 ||
|| 847-952-9729 [NEW!] VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR! ||
++================================================ ================*//

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

kaeshschpatz'n (Bavarian dialect) is good but I never found
it amazing. Generally I thought the food was "homestyle"
food....ok, occasionally good, but nothing like Italy or
France but that is a given.

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

I never knew the name. I simply roll my eyes every time for 4 out of
the last 6 Wies'n I was at....so that makes it about 7000 I heard the
song. ;-)

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?

almost. I never even heard the song Country Roads or never noticed
it until a german colleague sang it for kareokee in Tennessee at
a convention. Egal.

A week ago I was in Monterrey, Mexico for work. I heard "Hey Baby,"
"I will surive," and get this, "Life is Life."

I went home for a few days and now back in Monterrey and coincidently
wearing a shirt from the 2001 Wies'n. Time for some tequila.

Gerald

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

kaeshschpatz'n (Bavarian dialect) is good but I never found
it amazing. Generally I thought the food was "homestyle"
food....ok, occasionally good, but nothing like Italy or
France but that is a given.

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

I never knew the name. I simply roll my eyes every time for 4 out of
the last 6 Wies'n I was at....so that makes it about 7000 I heard the
song. ;-)

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?

almost. I never even heard the song Country Roads or never noticed
it until a german colleague sang it for kareokee in Tennessee at
a convention. Egal.

A week ago I was in Monterrey, Mexico for work. I heard "Hey Baby,"
"I will surive," and get this, "Life is Life."

I went home for a few days and now back in Monterrey and coincidently
wearing a shirt from the 2001 Wies'n. Time for some tequila.

Gerald

I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

kaeshschpatz'n (Bavarian dialect) is good but I never found
it amazing. Generally I thought the food was "homestyle"
food....ok, occasionally good, but nothing like Italy or
France but that is a given.

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

I never knew the name. I simply roll my eyes every time for 4 out of
the last 6 Wies'n I was at....so that makes it about 7000 I heard the
song. ;-)

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?

almost. I never even heard the song Country Roads or never noticed
it until a german colleague sang it for kareokee in Tennessee at
a convention. Egal.

A week ago I was in Monterrey, Mexico for work. I heard "Hey Baby,"
"I will surive," and get this, "Life is Life."

I went home for a few days and now back in Monterrey and coincidently
wearing a shirt from the 2001 Wies'n. Time for some tequila.

Gerald

Gerald Sylvester wrote:
I don't know... I developed quite a jones for kaesespaetzle and
spinatspaetzle... Subtle food, but damned delicious.

kaeshschpatz'n (Bavarian dialect) is good but I never found
it amazing.

I didn't say it was amazing either, but it's the ONE thing I
really craved when I got home.

Generally I thought the food was "homestyle"
food....ok, occasionally good, but nothing like Italy or
France but that is a given.

Right... Germany is more about sustenance than cuisine. Of course,
I had some amazing Jaegerschnitzel that almost moved beyond that
sentiment... Had an awesome cheese platter at the Seehaus too...
The mountain cheese went especially well with the Radieschen...
They shouldn't even serve those separately -- put the cheese right
on the rye, and plop the Radieschen on top. Gods...

I think it's "Hey Baby (Would You Be My Girl)" by Bruce Channel.
It was on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, yes?

I never knew the name. I simply roll my eyes every time for 4 out of
the last 6 Wies'n I was at....so that makes it about 7000 I heard the
song. ;-)

Ha ha... I've only been there once, but it was amazing just how
far afield of the Weis'n you'd hear the song being sung... Usually
at night after some big drinking, but occasionally during the day
to.

My big surprise was "Country Roads" being played everywhere...
Who knew Germans were big John Denver fans? That's like going
to a Raiders game "Du sollst nicht weinen", isn't it?

almost. I never even heard the song Country Roads or never noticed
it until a german colleague sang it for kareokee in Tennessee at
a convention. Egal.

Really? Wow. It was impossible to avoid last year. I didn't
actually realize it during the verses, but when the chorus came
up... Yikes. What do deutschen Maenner & Frauen know about
West Virginia anyway?

A week ago I was in Monterrey, Mexico for work. I heard "Hey Baby,"

There's no escape!!
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"Gerald Sylvester" wrote in message
m...
If you don't want to make the trip, you can drink Andechs at the back
of the Dom church/cathedral. I have tried their beers.

it isn't the absolute best but good and the atmosphere
can't be beat.

To each his own. I'd almost kill for the dunkel, which is to my palate the
best doppelbock on the planet.


Another classic place is out near Grafing at a farm house. A real
bier steubl. Has about 5 tables. Typical bavarian snacks. Typical
smoke that you can can't cut a knife through but on a good day might
make an indent. As for the exact location of this, no idea but it is
about a 10 minutes drive from Grafing and literally in the middle
of nowhere. If you want, I can ask my friend for directions there.

I know a similar sort of place out by Unterhaching. There are those little
gems like that scattered all about. And this place brews their own.


I think they
are OK but not to my taste. It is a very popular place. The food is
popular there too.

literally every place serves typical bavarian food which is nothing
to scream home about. At every place the menu is *identical*.

I lived in Munich for a while and got around. I'd dispute both
characterizations. Maybe more so at the beer halls, but even then there is
variation from one to another. And Bavarian food can be quite good. Yeah, it
tends to be more on the hearty side, but there's still a lot of variety
there.

As is the case in pretty much every city on the planet, you need to get out
of the touristy quarters to really get a good experience for what the real
food, real atmosphere, etc. is like. Of course the Hofbräuhaus is going to
serve typical Bavarian food, done in a typical style, because that's what
people expect. Go to a more locals-oriented place like some of the
Augustiner beerhalls, and you'll start seeing better quality and variation.
Get into the neighborhood restaurants, and you see it even more.

In fact if whenever I hear "won't you be my girl" (exact name?), "I will
survive," etc I might commit suicide....after I go to
the next Wies'n of course.

There is no song on earth I despise more than the first one you mentioned.
I've had good fortune the past few years to go to the right tents (again,
the ones that are more locals-focused) and not heard that piece of
excrement.

-Steve