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State beer sales going flat
Per capita drinking lowest since 1947 Monday, June 14, 2004 By Bill Toland, Post-Gazette Harrisburg Bureau HARRISBURG -- All this depressing talk about Pittsburgh's impending tax increases and another losing season for the Pirates is enough to drive a person to drink. Jay Goldstein would welcome such a move -- provided you crack open a beer instead of mixing yourself one of those fancy, fruity cocktails. Goldstein, president of the Pennsylvania Beer Wholesalers Association, says the state's beer industry is flagging just as badly as the city treasury and the hometown ballclub. State beer tax revenues were down by 5 percent for calendar year 2003, the biggest single-year drop since World War II. Through this year, beer tax receipts are down by an additional 3 percent. Translation: Per-capita annual consumption of beer and malt liquor among drinking-age Pennsylvania residents is less than 23 gallons a person, the lowest consumption rate since 1947. The slide, Goldstein said, started in February 2003 and has been continuing monthly since then. But is that a bad omen for local brewers and distributors? Or just a one-year, blown-out-of-proportion anomaly, exaggerated by an above-average sales year in 2002? Depends on whether your pint glass is half-full or half-empty. Goldstein says that while the state has been relaxing liquor and wine laws to allow for Sunday sales hours and a grocery store presence, laws governing beer distribution in Pennsylvania remain too strict. "All we can do is stand there and get pummeled and lose more business," Goldstein said, cursing the Legislature on one hand while crediting Jonathan Newman, chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, with reinvigorating the staid spirits agency. Goldstein, whose family owns beer outlets in Allentown, has his own motives for highlighting the slumping sales. He's been lobbying the state to allow for the sale of 12-packs at beer distributors, the theory being that a six-pack isn't enough for a dinner party but a whole case is too much. Demonstrating lower-than-usual sales could prompt rule changes at the legislative level. But Dick Yuengling, president of Pottsville's D.G. Yuengling & Son, said Goldstein's sky-is-falling routine is one part truth, one part puffery. "I think Pennsylvania had an off year," Yuengling said. "But it's just a blip. It's happened before. We don't get excited -- we've been around for 125 years." Either way, there's no denying that Pennsylvania beer-makers, as well as those who distribute it, have spent the last few years fending off a confluence of local and national trends: A nationwide health kick, low-carb diets, took the beer industry by surprise. Brand lines advertised as having low carbohydrate levels are gaining market share, but the staying power of the Atkins low-carb diet could eventually have a detrimental effect on overall beer sales. The so-called baby-boomlet -- the sons and daughters of baby boomers -- are exiting their prime beer-drinking years and approaching their 30s, an age when many turn to more expensive wines and cocktails over beer and malt beverages. Locally, the continuing decline in numbers of veterans clubs, social clubs like the Elks and Eagles, and old mill bars means Pennsylvania is losing a sliver of its reliable beer market each year. And though his theory is unproven, Goldstein wonders if schools have inadvertently bred a generation of kids, now drinking age, who prefer sweet drinks to bitter ones. "When I was in school, you had a choice of milk from the cafeteria or the water fountain," said Goldstein, in his 50s. "Now, there's soda pop and fruit juice machines in every school," he said. "We've developed a generation of wine and spirit drinkers," who prefer a Sea Breeze to a Guinness. That's a legitimate beef, reflected in the sales of "malternatives," those sweet, fruity bottled drinks like Mike's Hard Lemonade. Popular since 2000, such beverages initially didn't cut into overall beer sales because the drinks were primarily produced by traditional brewers. But now that hard liquor companies have gotten into the act -- Smirnoff Ice and Jack Daniel's Original Hard Cola, for example -- brewers are feeling more of the bite, even though those liquor-brand brews are still sold through beer distributors, not liquor stores. It all added up to a lousy year for beer in Pennsylvania, even as some of the regional brewers are experiencing growing sales outside of the state. Yuengling, for example, has been selling well regionally, especially since it opened a second brewery in Tampa, Fla., five years ago and a third in St. Clair, Pa., in 2001. Previously available in four states, Yuengling soon will be sold in 10. Even so, "I think certain markets are struggling," Dick Yuengling said. That includes traditional beer strongholds, nationally and even worldwide. Last year, beer sales in Germany were down about 5 percent from the year before, and about 1 million fewer people visited the 2003 Munich beer festival, mostly because Germans have become more health-conscious, according to a journal called "World Drink Trends." Meanwhile, Japan's major brewers took a major hit in 2003, with Sapporo's sales dropping nearly 13 percent and brands Kirin and Suntory reporting declines of 7 percent, according to a recent report on the Japanese beer industry. And in Britain, home to the smoky pub, beer consumption recently sank to a 30-year low, even as sales of wine shot up by nearly 9 percent and spirits sales grew by 2 percent, according to a news report by the BBC. Steve Kniley, spokesman for the Department of Revenue, acknowledged that Pennsylvania beer sales have been flat for the last decade. But viewed over a two-decade stretch, it's been a slow slide of small decreases. From 1982 to 1990, Pennsylvania routinely took in more than $28 million in beer taxes, cresting at $28.9 million in 1990. Over the last 10 years, the number has hovered between $25 million and $27 million. Lately, Kniley calculated, "it seems to me it's been pretty stable. It's not going up, but it's not going down a whole lot, either. ... They're drinking about the same." The slow slide in beer receipts stands in contrast to the great surge in liquor and spirits sales in Pennsylvania. From 1994 to 2003, Pennsylvania's liquor tax receipts have grown from $119 million to $193 million, according to the revenue department. The tax rates on both malt beverage and liquor have been the same for decades, meaning the only variable is the amount sold. The malt beverage tax, commonly called the beer excise tax, is 8 cents on the gallon, $2.48 on a barrel and about a penny on the pint. The tax, in the end, is paid by the consumer, but remitted by manufacturers, importers and distributors. The liquor tax stands at a flat 18 percent. Even though beer is taking a battering from liquor, many brewers say it's up to the beer-makers, not the lawmakers, to adapt to changing consumer and health trends. At Pittsburgh Brewing Co., the company's advertising campaign has for about two years now been focusing on "more taste, less waist," and lately has been touting I.C. Light's carbohydrate count compared to other light beers. As a result, said Jeff Vavro, Pittsburgh Brewing Co.'s spokesman, I.C. Light has seen increased sales for the last three years. |
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TOM KAN PA wrote... State beer sales going flat Per capita drinking lowest since 1947 Monday, June 14, 2004 By Bill Toland, Post-Gazette Harrisburg Bureau What a joke. This reporter does all this research and comes to conclusions that ignore the entire issue. And the issue, for those here who don't know Pennsylvania liquor laws, is that state liquor laws were drawn up after prohibition and haven't been overturned. You can't buy beer in a supermarket or a convenience store. You can't even buy beer in a state/package/liquor store. You can buy a case from a beer distributor, but not a bottle, six pack, or twelve pack. You can buy a bottle or six pack from a bar or deli, but not a case. Then if somebody proposes a plan to give Pennsylvania liquor laws like every (actually almost every) other state, legislators from rural areas make speeches about how any change in the law will turn the entire population into alcoholics and the legislation gets shot down. Why didn't any of this get mentioned in the article? I'm not worried about the good beer market as I see more 15-30 tap bars opening and it's become rare to go to a bar or restaurant that doesn't have at least Sierra Nevada or Sam Adams. But if the businesses in the state are worried about per capita beer consumption, then stop making it artificially difficult to buy beer. -Tom W |
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Todd Klondike wrote:
c (TOM KAN PA) posted message on 14 Jun 2004 18:29:40 GMT State beer sales going flat snip Not my fault. I'm doing more than my share. Must be Lew's--I heard he's gone on the Atk!n$ diet. |
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I noticed in the article the person pushing selling beer by the 12 pack does
not suggest that beer be sold in supermarkets. That would increase sales on impulse especially to women who most of the grocery shopping. An ad runs on TV and the person shopping remembers it, but cannot buy the beer because it is not sold in the supermarket. Too much trouble to go to the distributor. Also it seems that small local bars, where people can pick up a six-pack are being replaced by chain type places where I never see a cooler to grab a six-pack. Tom Uhhh...when's the last time you had difficulty buying beer in Pa? |
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Todd Klondike wrote:
(TOM KAN PA) posted message But if the businesses in the state are worried about per capita beer consumption, then stop making it artificially difficult to buy beer. Amen to that! Uhhh...when's the last time you had difficulty buying beer in Pa? Early May. Well, I had difficulty buying a *well-kept* beer at Monks. -- Joel Plutchak "Senza la birra tutto diventa orfano." plutchak@[...] - Italian proverb (slightly revised) |
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Todd Klondike wrote:
"mary" posted message on Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:24:50 -0400 I noticed in the article the person pushing selling beer by the 12 pack does not suggest that beer be sold in supermarkets. That would increase sales on impulse especially to women who most of the grocery shopping. An ad runs on TV and the person shopping remembers it, but cannot buy the beer because it is not sold in the supermarket. Too much trouble to go to the distributor. If going to the distributor is 'too much trouble', then you didn't want a beer very bad, now did you? A Libertarian's paradise! (Oy!) Missing out on 'impulse buyers' hardly equals 'difficulty buying beer'. I'd say 'not being able to buy your beer where you buy your meat' does indeed equal 'difficulty buying beer.' Beer is food. |
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Todd Klondike wrote If going to the distributor is 'too much trouble', then you didn't want a beer very bad, now did you? Missing out on 'impulse buyers' hardly equals 'difficulty buying beer'. The only reason beer distributors exist is because of the post-prohibition liquor laws which were supposed to keep organized crime (made up of former bootleggers) out of the alcohol market. You can buy a case only from a distributor and they spend a lot of money lobbying the legislature to keep it that way. Missing out on impulse buying does indeed equal difficulty buying beer in a competitive marketplace. People who are shopping for dinner parties or barbeques want to buy their food and drink at the same store. Consumers are limited in the time they want to spend shopping and an impulse sale lost is money spent on other beverages. Putting beer in supermarkets isn't a radical idea - at least 48 other states do it (I'm not sure about Utah). You're right when you say that if going to a distributor is too much trouble then I don't want a beer that badly. I drink a beer or two almost every day but I feel that I really need a beer maybe once a month. That means most of my beer puchases are impulse buys and that can be the difference between keeping a business open and seeing it close. People on this list from Pennsylvania are from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. I assume that there really is a difficulty buying beer (especially good beer) in other parts of the state. -Tom W |
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Tom Wolper wrote:
Putting beer in supermarkets isn't a radical idea - at least 48 other states do it (I'm not sure about Utah). Wow, you really ought to get out more. There are a LOT of states without beer sales in supermarkets (and, generally, one can say that the better beer selections exist in such states). New Jersey and Massachusetts sell beer in liquor stores, for just two examples of states with great beer selections without supermarket sales. In fact, as a beer lover, I HATE states where beer is sold in supermarkets (old, exposed to light and poor selections). I've said it before (and, granted, it might be an outdated reason) but I think a major reason Pennsylvania had more independent breweries left (and no majors to speak of) than any other state in the pre-micro days was your system of beer sales. |
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Tom Wolper wrote: Putting beer in supermarkets isn't a radical idea - at least 48 other states do it (I'm not sure about Utah). Wow, you really ought to get out more. There are a LOT of states without beer sales in supermarkets (and, generally, one can say that the better beer selections exist in such states). Generally?! You need to get out more. Beer selection in (for example) Wisconsin and Illinois is great, and both states allow beer sales in grocery stores. (Wine too, and at least in Illinois spirits as well.) In fact, as a beer lover, I HATE states where beer is sold in supermarkets (old, exposed to light and poor selections). Beer is also sold in "liquor stores" in IL and WI, and there's nothing special about those wrt the condition of the beer. IOW that's a straw man argument. I've said it before (and, granted, it might be an outdated reason) but I think a major reason Pennsylvania had more independent breweries left (and no majors to speak of) than any other state in the pre-micro days was your system of beer sales. Per capita? Wisconsin may have given PA a run for its money. And gosh, both states have large population with German ancestry. But that wouldn't have anything to do with it. -- Joel Plutchak "Senza la birra tutto diventa orfano." plutchak@[...] - Italian proverb (slightly revised) |
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Joel wrote:
wrote: Tom Wolper wrote: Putting beer in supermarkets isn't a radical idea - at least 48 other states do it (I'm not sure about Utah). Wow, you really ought to get out more. There are a LOT of states without beer sales in supermarkets (and, generally, one can say that the better beer selections exist in such states). Generally?! Yeah, generally but I should have said "I" instead of "one" and so I'll say "Generally, *I'LL* say that I find it EASIER to find good beer in states with beer sales NOT exclusively in grocery stores". You need to get out more. Yup, who doesn't? Beer selection in (for example) Wisconsin and Illinois is great, and both states allow beer sales in grocery stores. (Wine too, and at least in Illinois spirits as well.) OK, we've now covered 4 states other than PA (Utah's still up in the air- drove thru it once but don't remember the beer situation). I still say the guy's wrong that ONLY PA and Utah don't sell beer in grocery stores. In fact, as a beer lover, I HATE states where beer is sold in supermarkets (old, exposed to light and poor selections). Beer is also sold in "liquor stores" in IL and WI, and there's nothing special about those wrt the condition of the beer. I can't figure out the typo "wrt" g BUT I'll make another "general" statement. Beer sold in closed cases (as in PA) is generally going to be better protected from light and easier to spot a date code on a case than beer in open six packs on open refrigerated shelving as in a grocery store. I've said it before (and, granted, it might be an outdated reason) but I think a major reason Pennsylvania had more independent breweries left (and no majors to speak of) than any other state in the pre-micro days was your system of beer sales. Per capita? No, total number. Wisconsin may have given PA a run for its money. Yeah, they did but their total also had 3 or 4 or 5 of the largest brewers (Pabst, Schlitz, Miller, Blatz and Heileman), and thus not "independent" in the sense of regional and local brands. PA's locals also had a broader spectrum of beers (still brewed porters and ales). And gosh, both states have large population with German ancestry. But that wouldn't have anything to do with it. I didn't say "The reason", I said a "major reason" and I'd say the German ancestry had a lot more effect in Wisconsin than in PA. Here's the deal in PA- You had to buy a CASE at a time and you usually wound up buying it in the same store in town. The 25 or 50 cent different in a six pack price of Yeungling versus Bud thus looked a lot different when it's $2 or more a case. And the real bargain was in buying it in deposit bottles and since you bought your beer at the same place, deposits didn't seem as much a hassle and the local beers all came in 12 and especially 16 bottles at prices that Miller and A-B couldn't compete with. Yeah, things are different these days, the beer market, the state's breweries, etc. (I don't know, could Shangy's exist anywhere else, though?) but it's NOT the only state without grocery store sales. |
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Todd Klondike wrote:
sleurB kciN posted message Missing out on 'impulse buyers' hardly equals 'difficulty buying beer'. I'd say 'not being able to buy your beer where you buy your meat' does indeed equal 'difficulty buying beer.' Beer is food. So you're saying they should sell meat at the beer distributor? Beer is food. Meat is not beer. Simple logic. -- Joel Plutchak "Senza la birra tutto diventa orfano." plutchak@[...] - Italian proverb (slightly revised) |
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Todd Klondike wrote... Missing out on impulse buying does indeed equal difficulty buying beer in a competitive marketplace. Don't be silly. If you want beer, you go to where beer is sold. Let's go back to the article that started this thread. It said that beer sales are declining per capita in the state. I personally don't care that they are, as long as I can find an imperial stout or marzen when I am in the mood. The article isn't about good beer, though, it's about beer sales in general. There was no mentin of market share for craft brews or imports but I have a feeling (and if you can prove me wrong I will accept it) that the decline is in macrobrews. People who are shopping for dinner parties or barbeques want to buy their food and drink at the same store. Consumers are limited in the time they want to spend shopping and an impulse sale lost is money spent on other beverages. Putting beer in supermarkets isn't a radical idea - at least 48 other states do it (I'm not sure about Utah). I'm sure your count is off. All you've done is try to make a case that it'd be more convenient if they sold beer on every corner. And it would. But that hardly equates with 'difficulty in buying beer'. Again, back to the original article: beer sales are declining. I am saying that they would go up if beer were more readily available which is obvious and was ignored in the article. According to "Why We Buy" by Paco Underhill, 60% of purchases made are decided on in the store. I am willing to make a special trip to a beer store (distributor or specialty deli) just to get my imperial stout or marzen, but my buying habits aren't the issue in the article. If you want to increase sales, you have to put the commodity where shoppers will find it on impulse. You're right when you say that if going to a distributor is too much trouble then I don't want a beer that badly. I drink a beer or two almost every day but I feel that I really need a beer maybe once a month. That means most of my beer puchases are impulse buys and that can be the difference between keeping a business open and seeing it close. Nonsense, of course. A beer or two every day is not impulse, it's habit. Or, it could be addiction, but I'll be kind, as I apparently drink more than you. I am past my heavy drinking days, at least the binge years. If I'm at a restaurant or party and macrobrews are all that is available, then I have no problem going without. I don't suffer cravings. People on this list from Pennsylvania are from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. I assume that there really is a difficulty buying beer (especially good beer) in other parts of the state. I live in a small town about an hour outside of Philly. I have no trouble buying beer. As much as I want. Since I am usually fast asleep before the bars close, I can buy beer whenever I want, too. Ya know what? I don't think having beer in the local minimarts is convenient enough. I think we should demand home delivery! And drive-through sixpack shops on every block. I could have added Harrisburg to Pgh and Philly. In any case, I'm not advocating beer on every corner, especially since the beer would most likely be macrobrews. All I wanted to say is that if you are going to write an article about declining beer sales in the state, you should mention that the liquor laws provide a disincentive to consumers. -Tom W |
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