Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

Xomicron wrote:

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Why are you such a tedious little troll?
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dgs

LOL!!!!!!!!! keep dreaming!!!!

"Xomicron" wrote in message
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Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

"dgs" wrote in message
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Xomicron wrote:

[troll]

Why are you such a tedious little troll?
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dgs


Cuz he drinks mass produced US lager? I bet that if his taste in beer would
improve, his trolling ability would
see a marked improvement as well. lol

Best regards,
Bill

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 00:48:23 -0600, "Bill Becker"
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"dgs" wrote in message
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Xomicron wrote:

[troll]

Why are you such a tedious little troll?
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dgs


Cuz he drinks mass produced US lager? I bet that if his taste in beer would
improve, his trolling ability would
see a marked improvement as well. lol

Best regards,
Bill


****in coors drinkers!

US beers...Beurkkkkkkkkk

Xomicron wrote in message ...
Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

Like what, for example?

While there is some tremendous beer produced in the US, in my opinion
none of it comes from the "mass producers." It's all small batch
microbrewery stuff, and it compares favorably with anything I've had
in Europe or elsewhere.

But the mass produced stuff here is like making love in a canoe.

Bear in mind this comes from Xomicron, a troll of the highest order.
Google him, he's a well known idiot. Nobody takes anything he says
seriously.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:23:05 +0200, Nemo l'Ancien
wrote:

US beers...Beurkkkkkkkkk

eat it frenchie.

In rec.crafts.brewing Xomicron wrote:
Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

I don't think that it is. When I think better, I think better flavor.

For the style that American brewers (like Bud, Coors, Miller) try to
create, they are indeed the best in the world at it. But, if you are
trying to make an mass produced such as Becks, you might find that
American beer doesn't come close. I just depends upon exactly what
you are comparing (really need to compare within the same style).

But then, I go to post this message and I find you have cross-posted it
all over hell and are acting very trollish.

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Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

that's easy, it missing 3 things that obviously don't appeal to your
palate: flavour, body and alcohol.

Jack Slopehead wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 00:47:21 GMT, stephen wrote:


Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than
it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

that's easy, it missing 3 things that obviously don't appeal to your
palate: flavour, body and alcohol.

mass produced world beers all are missing that. It's pure ignorance
when people say it's just American beer. Other great examples of not
so great "imports" include Molson (Canadians are boring is is their
beer), Heine (skunks shit in this one) and of course Foster's (Aussie
by name only, brewed in Canada and shipped south).

I can verify that. I'm an Aussie and never had a fosters. It's not because I
don't want to at least try it, but no pubs have it on tap! Not about to
waist money buying a carton. Pure marketing......

"Jack Slopehead" wrote in message
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and of course Foster's (Aussie
by name only, brewed in Canada and shipped south).

Foster's is an Aussie beer, albeit not a very popular one over there. The
stuff brewed for the US market is brewed in Canada, but there is such a
thing as Australian Foster's.

-STeve

Jack Slopehead wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 00:47:21 GMT, stephen wrote:


Why is mass produced American lager generally much, much better than it's
European and Canadian counterparts?

that's easy, it missing 3 things that obviously don't appeal to your
palate: flavour, body and alcohol.
ok i meant that as a trollish response to a troll post, but hey if you
want to argue otherwise...


mass produced world beers all are missing that.
ah, they definitely aren't all mising the alcohol, and the ones with it
taste like rubbing alcohol (too much rice and sugar?). Of course that
is just the mass produced crap I bought at a grocer. I bought a random
selection of six packs one weekend in the states and some 40's ouch, the
only one I remeber was miller highlife because I drank that myself, i
didn't try to pawn it off on some poor unsuspecting person. Of course I
may have ended up with the equivalents of Lucky lager, Extra old stock
and wildcat.
It's pure ignorance
when people say it's just American beer.
No it's pure ignorance thinking that beer imported to the US are what
that counry drinks or is popular in that country. Have you ever been to
another country and just ordered what was on tap there or grabbed a case
of beer from the most stocked beer in another country? If not you don't
know.
It's even wrong to assume that american beer in another country is
the same as american beer (ie bud in canada is brewed by
labbats/interbrew, I have no idea how it tastes compared to american bud
since I haven't bought that, pretty similar to other labbats products
though, 5% alch, no preservatives, tastes like beer to some degree, but
definely no noticable hops). I'm prety sure coors light is the same, it
tastes like water yet smells like water gone bad.
Other great examples of not
so great "imports" include Molson (Canadians are boring is is their
beer)
Molson what? molson makes lots of products. Saying molson is like me
saying I had an anheuser-busche.. its a company not a beer. The
"molson" I saw in washington state was a product not distributed in
canada, it was specifically marketed to the states, so it tastes like
american beer (or so I assume, I haven't tried it nor do I want to).
And if you think all canadian beer is boring (alright the mass produced
lagers are generally) try some "la fin du monde" from unibroue in
quebec. It means "the end of the world". It's good just don't drink
more than a couple of the 750 ml cahmpange corked bottles
http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm

, Heine (skunks shit in this one)
Hmm and I thought that was malt, no commment I haven't had heinekin
since I was 16 and in france on a trip. It definely had more flavour
than american beers i've had.
and of course Foster's (Aussie
by name only, brewed in Canada and shipped south).
ah good example of a mass produced beer, an "aussie" beer, made in
canada and drank by neither. I think it's mass marketed not produced, I
have never seen anyone buy or drink that (yet i see comercials all the
time on american tv, go figure). I'd love to try a real aussie "working
man's" beer. Now there is Bushmans lager available here, which claims
to be ausie but how would I know. I'll stick to the local micro or a
tried and true import rather than risk it.

How about stella? That's a mass produced beer from europe, I find that
quite drinkable.

In my region of canada the highest selling beers are labbats blue,
kokanee, bud and molson canadian. All of which are damn bland, but are
all 5% alcohol and do taste more like beer than water (I can't say that
for mgd or coors etc).

From what i've seen of sales through tills though ( i do product
marketing in liquor stores) the most popular mass produced beer for the
upper middle class is sleemans honey brown (which is available across
canada). It's the same colour as newcastle, actually similar in flavour
too. They make other more interesting beers, but that's the one that is
stocked with the rest of the generics and sold on tap in restaurants and
pubs.

When I was in the Canadian Armed Forces in the '80s I remember having
Fosters pushed on us at one of our government funded beer bashes. We had 9
kegs of the stuff and it was foamy and nasty, but by then I was so hosed I
was pouring rye on top of the beer to kill the foam. I thought Fosters was
pretty much an 80's one hit wonder, so I'm surprised to hear it's still
kicking around. Every liquor store I've been to in Alberta certainley does
not carry Fosters. As far as American beer was concerned, during the beer
strikes around the same time in the 80's, the liquor stores (when they were
still government owned) began importing Old Milwauke and it was dirt cheap,
so it was easy to get over the nasty flavour. In Alberta some of the most
popular beers are made locally by Big Rock Breweries and they are totally
awesome, with really good body.

When I was in the Canadian Armed Forces in the '80s I remember having
Fosters pushed on us at one of our government funded beer bashes. We had 9
kegs of the stuff and it was foamy and nasty, but by then I was so hosed I
was pouring rye on top of the beer to kill the foam. I thought Fosters was
pretty much an 80's one hit wonder, so I'm surprised to hear it's still
kicking around. Every liquor store I've been to in Alberta certainley does
not carry Fosters. As far as American beer was concerned, during the beer
strikes around the same time in the 80's, the liquor stores (when they were
still government owned) began importing Old Milwauke and it was dirt cheap,
so it was easy to get over the nasty flavour. In Alberta some of the most
popular beers are made locally by Big Rock Breweries and they are totally
awesome, with really good body.


I'm assuming in most places the best and most popular beers are the
local ones. Plus you should be supporting local brewers anyhow right?
I liked the big rock stuff I tried.

In victoria some of the most popular beers are from vic of course! Lots
of people drink Vancouver Island brewery stuff (i heard a good story
about when they got started they sold beer in pet bottles and had to
dispose of a bunch).. that was back in the 80's though and they are very
drinkable beers. http://www.vanislandbrewery.com/ If you are in the
area check them out, they do good tours. Of course there is also
lighthouse brewery (Mmm racerocks, beacan ipa and keepers stout), and
phillips (their phoenix is nice and hoppy and sold in stubbies) and Gulf
island brewing company.

And if you are going to do a brew tour there are plenty of brew pubs
that create some great beers. Personally I'd start at Spinakers
(http://www.spinnakers.com/) for dinner, then take a nice walk down to
swans (15 mins away i think http://www.swanshotel.com/pub.html) have a
taster set there (6 smaller glasses of the ones you want to sample at a
pretty decent price), maybe enjoy some live music (they often have live
jazz), then head down the street to the canoe club
(http://www.canoebrewpub.com/) maybe some more live music or just
lounging then by that that time i'd need a taxi (although it would only
be another 15 min stumble) down to Hugo's brewpub
(http://www.hugoslounge.com/) enjoy some more handcrafted beer and some
dancing.

Then the next day take the ferry to vancouver and do a tour there...
then maybe down to seattle the next day?

for some reason i'm super thirsty now.