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Old 22-10-2003, 09:51 AM
Adrian
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Default British pubs with waitresses

Samantha Hall ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Slug and Lettuce ranks just behind Wetherspoons pubs as the most
souless pubs in the UK. Most airport lounges have better atmosphere
(and beer) than those places. They are better avoided at all costs.
You can always find a good local near a Slug and Lettuce, there is never
a need to go into one.


HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE PUB I
WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING BAR STAFF AND
THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY BEHIND US ON SALES
MORON


So.....

JDW has illiterate staff who bellow abuse at customers, while thinking that
sales figures are the sole arbiter of which pub is "better" from a customer
point of view?

Okay...... This might explain quite a bit....

Any JDW Management lurking? That's Samantha Hall, works at one of your pubs
with a S&L nearby. She might benefit from a bit of charm training...
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Old 22-10-2003, 12:26 PM
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22/10/03 3:01 AM

...THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY BEHIND US ON SALES MORON


Be thankful for small mercies... my motto.

CR

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Old 22-10-2003, 07:51 PM
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As Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:58:18 +0100 appeared fresh and rosy-fingered,
"Samantha Hall" wrote:

HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE PUB I
WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING BAR STAFF AND
THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY BEHIND US ON SALES
MORON


Is the reason this message came so long after the others in the thread
because there is only one person serving up messages, but three
assorted managers stood watching that one person? Maybe the Caps Lock
key is broken, but it is "against policy" to warn people of this
before they try to type?
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Arthur Figgis
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Old 22-10-2003, 10:54 PM
PeterE
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Arthur Figgis ] wrote:
As Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:58:18 +0100 appeared fresh and rosy-fingered,
"Samantha Hall" wrote:

HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE
PUB I WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING
BAR STAFF AND THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY
BEHIND US ON SALES MORON


Is the reason this message came so long after the others in the thread
because there is only one person serving up messages, but three
assorted managers stood watching that one person? Maybe the Caps Lock
key is broken, but it is "against policy" to warn people of this
before they try to type?


Not to mention Samantha being a top-poster, of course....

--
http://www.stockportpubs.org.uk
"If laws are to be respected, they must be worthy of respect."


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Old 22-10-2003, 11:47 PM
Alan
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In message , PeterE
wrote
Arthur Figgis ] wrote:
As Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:58:18 +0100 appeared fresh and rosy-fingered,
"Samantha Hall" wrote:

HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE
PUB I WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING
BAR STAFF AND THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY
BEHIND US ON SALES MORON


Is the reason this message came so long after the others in the thread
because there is only one person serving up messages, but three
assorted managers stood watching that one person? Maybe the Caps Lock
key is broken, but it is "against policy" to warn people of this
before they try to type?


Not to mention Samantha being a top-poster, of course....


All pints served in a JDW outlet have a large top of froth.
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Alan

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Old 23-10-2003, 01:04 AM
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] (Arthur Figgis) wrote in message ...
As Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:58:18 +0100 appeared fresh and rosy-fingered,
"Samantha Hall" wrote:

HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE PUB I
WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING BAR STAFF AND
THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY BEHIND US ON SALES
MORON


Is the reason this message came so long after the others in the thread
because there is only one person serving up messages, but three
assorted managers stood watching that one person? Maybe the Caps Lock
key is broken, but it is "against policy" to warn people of this
before they try to type?


Samantha (turn the caps-lock off, &/or calm down & accept the
possibility that...) someone may have criticised JDW as being soulless
& lacking atmosphere (& you disagree) because you have different
experiences & expectations of pubs in general? I have had pleasant
enough nights in a couple of JDWs, but they've not added much to the
night, apart from (regularly, but not always) fairly good beer & a
roof; wheras stunning pubs have character, warmth, excellent beer,
memorableness (is that even a word?) and more which IMO are things
that chain-pubs (JDW,Pitcher&Piano,AllBarOne,Hogshead,Firkin,etc,e tc)
seldom achieve one of, never mind several or all of them.

I've just spent the night in a ScotCo (orchard inns?) chain pub & it
was pleasant enough (e.g. OK beer range, & they happily exchanged the
2 off pints they served me! plus q a fun pubquiz) but despite the beer
range, pleasant furnishings, decent wine list, nice food on offer,
etc, etc; it was only OK, nothing special - and even at their best
that's all that I think chain pubs ever will be; but that's OK for me,
because I think there's enough of us who want more than McDonalds to
eat, & chainpub to drink, & Dido to listen to...
cheers
MikeMcG
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Old 23-10-2003, 05:18 AM
Steve Jackson
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"MikeMcG" wrote in message
om...


I've just spent the night in a ScotCo (orchard inns?) chain pub & it
was pleasant enough (e.g. OK beer range, & they happily exchanged the
2 off pints they served me! plus q a fun pubquiz) but despite the beer
range, pleasant furnishings, decent wine list, nice food on offer,
etc, etc; it was only OK, nothing special - and even at their best
that's all that I think chain pubs ever will be; but that's OK for me,
because I think there's enough of us who want more than McDonalds to
eat, & chainpub to drink, & Dido to listen to...


Being a Yank, my experience with Weatherspoon and the other pubcos is pretty
limited to a couple trips to the UK. But, it strikes me that bashing JDW and
their ilk is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, roughly the equivalent of
my coming up with the startling observation that McDonald's is hardly as
good as a nice local restaurant with a great burger made from freshly ground
chuck with a roll made from the local bakery, etc.

It also strikes me that jumping on the JDW-bashing bandwagon is a bit
disingenuous. Maybe from a business perspective this is true, but in terms
of pub character, they're hardly monolithic. The handful of Weatherspoon's
pubs I've been in have all been remarkably different in character, fitting
the neighbrohood, the building it's in, etc. Sure, there are commonalities,
some overly commercial aspects. But I give them credit for not being a
cookie-cutter chain, as opposed to so many American chains (whether simple
restaurants or drinks places) where every outlet is virtually
indistinguishable from any other, with identical decor and often identical
layouts.

I can think of one Weatherspoons I've been in (in Middleton, if I remember
right) that was downright pleasant. I can think of another one, in central
Manchester, that was downright sterile and ridiculously trendoid. Of course,
both of these (and another in Manchester) were visited during the record
heat wave in August, and they all had air conditioning, so they were quite
delightful just for being able to not be drenched in sweat just from sitting
around. That could skew my impressions...

It seems to me better to judge the merits of each individual outlet than to
tar the entire chain with the same brush.

-Steve


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Old 23-10-2003, 02:55 PM
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Hatunen wrote:
wrote:
HEY YOU I WORK FRO WETHERSPOON YOUR NOT GOING TO THE RIGHT ONES THE PUB I
WORK AT HAS THE BEST ATMOSPHERE FRIENDLY STAFF GOOD LOOKING BAR STAFF AND
THE BEST BEER IN TOWN AND THE SLUG AND LETTUCE IS WAY BEHIND US ON SALES
MORON


You used to be a telegrapher, right?


No, it's just so loud in that pub that she has to shout all the
time.
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"I don't like beer. I tried it once and thought it was terrible."
- Overheard at a restaurant
 




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