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Old 13-06-2008, 07:55 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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hahabogus wrote:
"Kswck" wrote in
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"Blinky the Shark" wrote in message
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So speaking of beer g, some Yuropeen brewery is trying to take over
Bud.

Bud!

That's just so wrong.

Hey! Keep yer flippin' hands offa the institution!



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And Coors is owned by Canadians.




That's why it tastes better, we put some alcohol in it.


The definition of beer turns into malt liquor over %6 in the US. There
are some 'beers' that I believe I have seen
that are %24. We have malt liquor that smells and tastes like a weak
whiskey but a good full flavored different
style of beer.

I like a can of fosters every now and then, I guess Australian,
Sopporo from Japan, Dos Equis from mexico
used to like Molson, sam adams is nice US beer. Grolsh is from Holland
I think, Becks is a nice German beer.
St. Pauli Girl is another nice beer from the same source.

What are some of the well known basics I am missing?
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Old 13-06-2008, 11:59 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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hahabogus wrote:
"Kswck" wrote in
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"Blinky the Shark" wrote in message
news
So speaking of beer g, some Yuropeen brewery is trying to take over
Bud.

Bud!

That's just so wrong.

Hey! Keep yer flippin' hands offa the institution!



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And Coors is owned by Canadians.




That's why it tastes better, we put some alcohol in it.


The definition of beer turns into malt liquor over %6 in the US. There
are some 'beers' that I believe I have seen
that are %24. We have malt liquor that smells and tastes like a weak
whiskey but a good full flavored different
style of beer.

I like a can of fosters every now and then, I guess Australian,
Sopporo from Japan, Dos Equis from mexico
used to like Molson, sam adams is nice US beer. Grolsh is from Holland
I think, Becks is a nice German beer.
St. Pauli Girl is another nice beer from the same source.

What are some of the well known basics I am missing?


I think Beck's is entirely different in Bavaria than it is in the US. Two
entirely different tastes.


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Old 13-06-2008, 05:39 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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Kswck wrote:

I think Beck's is entirely different in Bavaria than it is in the US. Two
entirely different tastes.


Beck's isn't from Bavaria, and it's not often found there. In most of
Germany, local brands take precedence.
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Old 15-06-2008, 08:04 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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No Poster wrote:

All depends on the state. In Texas, a beer over 6 or 7% (I forget the
exact number) is called an ale. Other states have other goofiness.


It's 5% in TX. Alt, malt liquot/beverage or lager. Anything but
'beer'.

-sw
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Old 15-06-2008, 09:08 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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"Dave Witzel" wrote in message
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Sqwertz wrote on 15 Jun 2008:
It does vary by state. Here in TX anything over 4.9% (I think),
must be labeled Ale, Malt Liquor, Lager, or Malt Beverage. And
some states you can't even buy any beer over 5 or 6% (South
Carolina, eg.)


South Carolina fixed their law (following NC and GA). I think Alabama
failed their last state legislative session, but that'll go soon.
Mississippi? Utah?

But "Malt Liquor" as a legal term still persists in but a few states,
much like "Ale" as a strength designation.

Witzel


Not Utah. Uinta has been making a BWSA for years and their state liquors
stores don't have a cap on alcohol, iirc.
On draft? It can only be 4%abv, or is it by weight?




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Old 15-06-2008, 10:37 PM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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Bill Becker wrote:

Not Utah. Uinta has been making a BWSA for years and
their state liquors stores don't have a cap on alcohol, iirc.
On draft? It can only be 4%abv, or is it by weight?


It's 4% ABV. The next time you are in Park City, UT
stop at the Wasatch Brewpub for a few glasses of
Polygamy Porter - Why have just one? And take some
home for the wives.

Dick
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Old 16-06-2008, 04:04 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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Dave Witzel wrote:

So UT's like some other states with some odd rules surrounding beer
strength (3.2%ABW=4%ABV; you've probably heard the term "3.2 beer")
- Tennessee comes to mind, where over a certain ABV it must be sold
in a different type of store (often the same building, but wholly
separate).

Not to start a thread about arcane beer laws or anything.



Too late.

Minnesota is as you describe: anything over 3.2% abw must be sold in a
separate liquor store. The liquor store can be in the same building, but
must have a separate entrance and a definite doorway into the main
store, if any transfer between grocery and liquor is allowed. And so you
end up with groceries that have liquor stores that keep separate hours
and that you have to go outside to get in (and you have to check out in
the liquor store; no bringing it into the grocery).

-Steve
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Old 17-06-2008, 03:14 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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No Poster wrote:

Sqwertz wrote in
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It's 5% in TX. Alt, malt liquot/beverage or lager. Anything but
'beer'.


I should have gone with my gut response, but I thought it was too low. I
guess not.


Look at a 6-er of Bud Ice. It doesn't actually say it's beer, but
it says "Ale in Texas" on the bottom of the carton (maybe that's
only the Texas labeling though)

I do remember it being discussed in here back in the mid 90s. It was more
or less the start of the microbrewery revolution. I was sure hoping it
would lead to a breakup up of the iron fist the beer distributors control
the American market. Things got better, but nowhere near as deregulated as
I had hoped. AB and their ilk still have firm control. Let them be bought
by the Belgians, perhaps it will finally free us.


Latest word is that Bud is trying to get Modelo of Mexico to merge
with AB so that InBev won't be able to absorb the combined wealth of
both companies.

Duh. I'd rather have AB owned by a Belgian company than by a
Mexican company. Of course I couldn't really care less what happens
to AB, but I do have a weak heart for the Belgian ales.

-sw
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Old 17-06-2008, 03:51 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
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Sqwertz wrote:
No Poster wrote:


Look at a 6-er of Bud Ice. It doesn't actually say it's beer, but
it says "Ale in Texas" on the bottom of the carton (maybe that's
only the Texas labeling though)


If I'm recalling correctly, Texas is the only state that requires the
"ale" designation for beer of a certain strength.

I do remember it being discussed in here back in the mid 90s. It was more
or less the start of the microbrewery revolution. I was sure hoping it
would lead to a breakup up of the iron fist the beer distributors control
the American market. Things got better, but nowhere near as deregulated as
I had hoped. AB and their ilk still have firm control. Let them be bought
by the Belgians, perhaps it will finally free us.


Incidentally, A-B argued in favor of changing the "ale" labeling law in
favor of allowing it to be used as a descriptive style/brewing method
designator, not as a marker of strength:
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/leginfo/4577ad.htm

Latest word is that Bud is trying to get Modelo of Mexico to merge
with AB so that InBev won't be able to absorb the combined wealth of
both companies.

Duh. I'd rather have AB owned by a Belgian company than by a
Mexican company.


Other way around: A-B is trying to talk Modelo into selling A-B the
other half it doesn't already own.

Of course I couldn't really care less what happens
to AB, but I do have a weak heart for the Belgian ales.


Pity InBev doesn't have much of anything to do with them.

-Steve
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Old 17-06-2008, 06:28 AM posted to rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink.beer,alt.beer
Joris Pattyn
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"of
both companies.

Duh. I'd rather have AB owned by a Belgian company than by a
Mexican company. Of course I couldn't really care less what happens
to AB, but I do have a weak heart for the Belgian ales.


Oh - InBev is a Belgian company according to you? To me it is a
Brazilian-steered multinational...
Joris


 




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