Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA

"John Frum" wrote in message
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Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

Better for what? Beer ratings? Pub listings? Witty banter? Self-aggrandizing
ownership and obnoxious self-promotion?

Read both. Go with which one you like. Neither is better than the other for
anything, other than your own personal preference.

-Steve

On 2007-07-21, John Frum wrote:
Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Neither one of them is worth one good beer for yourself.

nb

I use them both. I just want to cataloge the brews I've tried, helps me
remember what I tasted when I tried that beer and whether or not I'd like to
revisit it. They (like anyone or anything) may mis-categorize a particular
drink (or just not put it in the category we think it belongs). And yes one
of the sites owners has developed a big head; but I tend to not let those
things get in the way of a useful tool. I like being able to break it down
for myself, maybe I'll be wondering just what are my favorite IPA's or which
Imperial Stout didn't curl my teeth...too many brews out there to remember
them all...Each rating system has it's benefits; you'll just have to decide
which one works better for what you want to use it for...

BEER ADVOCATE WEIGHTING
appearance = 20%
smell = 20%
taste = 40%
mouthfeel = 10%
drinkability = 10%


RATEBEER WEIGHTING
Aroma
20%
Appearance
10%
Flavor
20%
Palate
10%
Overall impression
40%


so you can see. some catgories have different weigted values. and some
catgories cross over, some do not...Me, personally, if I had to drop one and
keep one...I'd probably stay with ratebeer. It's easier to tell between the
overall rating and the STYLE rating. The thing is to not let any rating
produced by the site to change how you really feel about a beer.

John Frum put down his beer long enough to post:

Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA


Beer Advocate has better forums, articles, etc.

Ratebeer has better and more complete ratings.

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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:40:27 +0100, John Frum
wrote:

Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA
Well I think its simple, i have a magazine subscription with
beeradvocate, and I use beeradvocate to post my opinions becuase its
free, you can post on ratebeer but to see lists you need prem sub and
12.95 a year, which is not much but is too much just to see rankings
of beers IMHO.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:00:52 -0400, steve
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:40:27 +0100, John Frum
wrote:

Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA
Well I think its simple, i have a magazine subscription with
beeradvocate, and I use beeradvocate to post my opinions becuase its
free, you can post on ratebeer but to see lists you need prem sub and
12.95 a year, which is not much but is too much just to see rankings
of beers IMHO.
well some lists require premium and some don't, but I believe forums
require sub, anyway beer advocate is better for me.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:40:27 +0100, John Frum wrote
(in message ):

Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA


Thanks everyone.

What I really want to know is which is more authoratative in its
ratings.

This is all part of reasearch I am doing for a book on US breweries.

Paul Arthur wrote:
On 2007-07-23, Tim wrote:

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?
What I really want to know is which is more authoratative in its
ratings.

They are both equally authoritative: that is to say, not at all.

Neither is trying to be authoritative. The reviews on each are by the public
with diverging tastes. It's up to the reader/site user to decide on trying a
beer based on reviews and rankings.

"Doppelbock" schreef in bericht
. 102...
John Frum put down his beer long enough to post:

Ratebeer v. Beer Advocate

Which do you reckon is better?

What are the strengths and weaknesses of each?

TIA


Beer Advocate has better forums, articles, etc.

Ratebeer has better and more complete ratings.

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Ratebeer is more complete on the beers - much more tasted, and the more as
they are non-American. The European lists on Beeradvocate present large
lacunes.

BeerAdvocate has still an edge concerning their beerfly's.

As to authorative - that is up to the (wo)man using it; you have to do the
filtering and the conclusions yourself.

I think you find that so highly subjective, Its like Westvleteren
Trappist ale, its usually rated number one in the USA, but on my many
trips to Brugge, and other Belgium beers town they don't think its
number one (polled bartenders in the 4 major beer towns).

I myself I not rated it because it varies, on my recent trip Aril
2007 the beer was different and nearly unavailable, different due to
lack of aging, I had quite a few friends in Belgium swap the new for
the old , and its funny I liked the new better, It even turned out
after many many bottles after 4 weeks there I found myself rating
Rochefort 6 at the top of my list this time. its all a long story, as
for rating USA's brewers man if I was rich and had the time what fun
that would be, though I doubt you ever be able to rank them, write a
book yes, but it would never be authoritative. some days I think Sam
Adams sucks and some day I think blue moon is killer, sure I love all
the Belgium beer and German etc, but most normal working folk like me
cannot afford all that stuff. ratings are done my members, and it
depends how drunk they are when they rate the beers. lol joke there.
though I dont know ratebeer that well, the Alstrom bros reviews are
quite fair and balanced lol.

What I really want to know is which is more authoratative in its
ratings.

This is all part of reasearch I am doing for a book on US breweries.

"steve" wrote in message
...

I think you find that so highly subjective, Its like Westvleteren
Trappist ale, its usually rated number one in the USA, but on my many
trips to Brugge, and other Belgium beers town they don't think its
number one (polled bartenders in the 4 major beer towns).

"4 major beer towns?" Which ones would these be? Explain.
--
dgs

Tim wrote:
What I really want to know is which is more authoratative in its
ratings.

Definitely ratebeer. Beer advocate has a bad case of
herd mentality and circle-jerking on the latest big bad
hard-to-get beer, and from browsing reviews seems to
have a lot more obviously ignorant people active.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman

ers (Joel) wrote on 23 Jul 2007:
Tim wrote:
What I really want to know is which is more authoratative in its
ratings.

Definitely ratebeer. Beer advocate has a bad case of
herd mentality and circle-jerking on the latest big bad
hard-to-get beer, and from browsing reviews seems to
have a lot more obviously ignorant people active.

....while Ratebeer has the ticker mentality run rampant; cogent,
thoughtful reviews of beers are pretty much frowned upon, judging
from the boards and the most prolific tickers. Considering the
wealth of reviews that get posted from a single bottle of the rare
beer of the moment (think 20+ reviews from one bomber), I think
ratebeer is equally useless.

Both sites have the herd mentality, and neither should be used to
gauge the "best beer" ratings; either could be used to gauge what
the tickers are lining up for, however.

Witzel

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:05:09 -0700, "dgs" wrote:

"steve" wrote in message
.. .

I think you find that so highly subjective, Its like Westvleteren
Trappist ale, its usually rated number one in the USA, but on my many
trips to Brugge, and other Belgium beers town they don't think its
number one (polled bartenders in the 4 major beer towns).

"4 major beer towns?" Which ones would these be? Explain.
Brugge (bar = Brugs beertje), Antwerp (bar = Kulminator), Brussels
(bar = Bier Circus), Ghent (bar = A Capella) BTW I went all over
Belgium and visited many places. those are just mine and the Author of
a Good beer Guide Belgium opinions of the "major" beer towns, mainly
based on populations. I been to Belgium 6 times in the last 8 years, I
love their beer, so I take my holidays there (vacations).