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Old 27-03-2007, 03:26 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Dukester
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...

Cheers!
Dukester


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Old 27-03-2007, 03:37 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Joel[_1_]
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

Dukester wrote:
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...


Oxford is a college town, so I assume they're trying
to cut down on student drunkenness and underage drinking,
moreso than DUIs in the general population. The same
situation exists here. I think one can actually have more
kegs on hand, but you need to apply for a permit, which is
free or nearly free; this also lets the authorities check
up on you to make sure things aren't getting out of hand.
If you're concerned about your proposed local ordinance,
let them know, and suggest such an amendment for similar
situations. You might also want them to make it clear it
pertains to commercially available liquor, so homebrew is
exempt. (Though I personally would rather fly under the
radar on that particular issue.)
(It's actually a bit more complicated here since we have
three distinct city governments in the 6- by 4-mile urban
area. I think only one city, the largest, has the restriction.)
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Old 27-03-2007, 04:04 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

Joel wrote:
Dukester wrote:
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...


Oxford is a college town, so I assume they're trying
to cut down on student drunkenness and underage drinking,
moreso than DUIs in the general population. The same
situation exists here. I think one can actually have more
kegs on hand, but you need to apply for a permit, which is
free or nearly free; this also lets the authorities check
up on you to make sure things aren't getting out of hand.
If you're concerned about your proposed local ordinance,
let them know, and suggest such an amendment for similar
situations. You might also want them to make it clear it
pertains to commercially available liquor, so homebrew is
exempt. (Though I personally would rather fly under the
radar on that particular issue.)


You'd definitely want to be well under the radar in Oxford as far as
homebrewing is concerned -- it isn't legal in Mississippi.

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Old 27-03-2007, 04:08 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Mark R[_2_]
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance


"Dukester" wrote in message
...
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've
been to handing out cups of water...


I guess home brewing is legal in Miss? There appears to be a brew club in
Oxford. Hope they're paying attention.

Mark R


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Old 27-03-2007, 04:14 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Derric
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...


I'd bet that most weddings in Mississippi, large or small, don't have
alcohol available at all! That's probably true in AL and most of GA and
TN also.


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Old 27-03-2007, 04:17 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Dukester
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

"Joel" wrote in message
...
Dukester wrote:
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

Oxford is a college town, so I assume they're trying
to cut down on student drunkenness and underage drinking,
moreso than DUIs in the general population. The same
situation exists here. I think one can actually have more
kegs on hand, but you need to apply for a permit, which is
free or nearly free; this also lets the authorities check
up on you to make sure things aren't getting out of hand.
If you're concerned about your proposed local ordinance,
let them know, and suggest such an amendment for similar
situations. You might also want them to make it clear it
pertains to commercially available liquor, so homebrew is
exempt. (Though I personally would rather fly under the
radar on that particular issue.)


It is indeed what they are trying to do, albeit in a knee-jerk fashion,
after deaths from underage drinking & driving. Just like being for hot
dogs, apple pie & chevrolet, I am against drinking & driving. But the
approach here is hypocritical when juxtaposed with the university's "don't
see, don't tell" policy for allowing alcohol on campus during football games
(after which 2 of these recent deaths occurred).

Aside from this, the logic makes no sense. Why should having more than 1
keg be illegal, but 50 cases of beer onhand is A-Ok? More than anything
else I may never need 4 gallons & 1/2 oz. of beer in a readily dispensable
container at one time, but the idea of it being illegal bothers me to no
end.

Agree about staying under the radar wrt homebrew..

Cheers!
Dukester


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Old 27-03-2007, 04:28 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Derric
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

... You might also want them to make it clear it
pertains to commercially available liquor, so homebrew is
exempt. (Though I personally would rather fly under the
radar on that particular issue.)


"Under the radar" would be a good idea ... I believe that homebrewing's
technically not legal in Mississippi.

Hmmm.... their definition of "keg" may exempt carboys or buckets
(without spigots):
"Keg." Any container capable of holding four gallons or more
of beer or light wine and which is designed to dispense beer or
light wine directly from the container for purposes of consumption

This looks bad for homebrewers that keg:
If any non-licensee is in possession of a keg containing beer or
light wine commencing thirty (30) days from the effective date of
this ordinance, and which keg does not bear the registration seal,
or upon which keg the registration seal has been altered, defaced
or obliterated, the container and its contents shall be deemed to
be contraband and subject to seizure and forfeiture, and further
penalty for violation of this ordinance as herein provided.

So if you homebrew in Oxford (and this passes), you better start
bottling!

I don't see how this ordinance can really do what it is intended ... it
seems to be you'd still be quite legal if you had 5 friends also get
permits and buy kegs, then keep them in their separate cars and only
serve from one in the house at a time, swapping out a new one each time
the last one empties. I guess you wouldn't have a selection that way,
tho...


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Old 27-03-2007, 04:34 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Derric
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

I guess home brewing is legal in Miss? There appears to be a brew club in
Oxford. Hope they're paying attention.


"Not Statutorily Recognized" as of Sept 1995 when this was last updated:
http://beertown.org/statutes/mississippi.htm

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Old 27-03-2007, 06:17 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:01:49 GMT, wrote:
In article , plutchak AT see.headers (Joel) wrote:
Dukester wrote:
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...


Oxford is a college town, so I assume they're trying
to cut down on student drunkenness and underage drinking,


The more cuts, the more students want to drink in excess when found.

Its not clear to me how many Kegs you could have in a vehicle, or how
many houses around the premisis, could contain a backup keg.


It doesn't make much sense and will probably do little to prevent underage
drinking or DUIs, etc. However, as is the case with most legislation like
this, that's not the real point. The main goal behind something like this
is usually so that some politician can stand up somewhere and claim that
they were the one that tried to save students from the evils of alcohol and
prevent innocent people from getting hurt in traffic accidents caused
by drunks. "I'm here to protect your children! Vote for me!". Nevermind
that the ordinance is stupid and won't really change anything other than
becoming a hassle. It makes it *look* like somebody is trying to accomplish
something good and make people's lives safer.

Just a guess, but are there any local elections coming up sometime soon
in Oxford? I bet that when they do, whoever originally wrote/sponsored
this ordinance will probably pull it out during the campaign.

You see this kind of stuff all the time on a federal/state level with
various "Save the children!" laws. It's just the paperwork version of
kissing babies to earn votes.


John.
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Old 27-03-2007, 07:01 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

In article , plutchak AT see.headers (Joel) wrote:
Dukester wrote:
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've been
to handing out cups of water...


Oxford is a college town, so I assume they're trying
to cut down on student drunkenness and underage drinking,


The more cuts, the more students want to drink in excess when found.

Its not clear to me how many Kegs you could have in a vehicle, or how
many houses around the premisis, could contain a backup keg.

greg
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Old 27-03-2007, 11:25 PM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance


"Dukester" wrote in message
...
This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am not too sure
this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the larger weddings I've
been to handing out cups of water...

Cheers!
Dukester


"They'll get my kegs WHEN THEY PEEL THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!!!"

;-]

("Honest Ociffer! It's just COCA-COLA!!!")


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Old 29-03-2007, 03:17 AM posted to rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.drink.beer
Dick Adams[_2_]
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Default Town proposing keg ordinance

Dukester wrote:

This little berg is trying to pass an ordinance to only allow 1 keg
(actually any container of 4 gallons or more of beer or wine) per
address/home/location etc.

http://www.oxfordms.net/recent/kegordinancedraft.htm

I understand what they are trying to do (reduce DUI's) but am
not too sure this is going to work. Can't imagine some of the
larger weddings I've been to handing out cups of water...


This proposed ordinance is probably targeting frat houses
at 'Ole Miss'.

But this is Mississippi where it's easier to get 'shine'
than it is to get a false ID card!

Dick
 




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