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Old 26-03-2007, 05:51 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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dear sir,
iam a food engg. and iam searching for a job pls help me by
providing me the addresses of indian beweries.

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Old 27-03-2007, 12:42 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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On 26 Mar, 16:51, wrote:
dear sir,
iam a food engg. and iam searching for a job pls help me by
providing me the addresses of indian beweries.


from searching on Google for - "breweries india"

http://beerme.com/breweries/in/index.shtml
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/breweri...ctory-0-96.htm
http://www.dinesh.com/india/breweries.shtml

good luck,
cheers
MikeMcG
nr Liverpool, UK.
(the UK is where much of the world's "indian" beer comes from -
Shepherd Neame, Kent brew Kingfisher, Charles Wells brew Cobra lager,
& a few others I think + 'Jamaican' Red Stripe, 'Japanese' Kirin

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Old 27-03-2007, 12:52 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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MikeMcG wrote:

the UK is where much of the world's "indian" beer comes from -
Shepherd Neame, Kent brew Kingfisher,


Shepherd Neame is now part of the giant Indian beverage conglomerate UB,
which also owns several microbreweries in the US (Mendocino and Saratoga
Springs)- which is where "our" Kingfisher comes from in the States.
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Old 27-03-2007, 08:00 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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On 27 Mar, 11:52, wrote:
MikeMcGwrote:

the UK is where much of the world's "indian" beer comes from -
Shepherd Neame, Kent brew Kingfisher,


Shepherd Neame is now part of the giant Indian beverage conglomerate UB,


are you sure? Scottish & Newcastle (aka Scottish Courage) did a deal
with UB a few years back, which, it was suggested might mean the end
of Shepherd Neame's lucrative contract to brew & distribute Kingfisher
in the UK, but I've heard nothing about UB taking over Shepherd Neame
- the UK's oldest independent family-controlled brewery (since 1698).

Are you confusing 2 UK breweing companies with similar initials, both
linked to UB? Tho as far as I can see, neither have been taken over by
UB.

which also owns several microbreweries in the US (Mendocino and Saratoga
Springs)- which is where "our" Kingfisher comes from in the States.


I coulda sworn when I was in the States in 1999 I saw ShepherdNeame
brewed Kingfisher there.

I didn't know UB owned Mendocino though - interesting stuff. By the
looks of things they're no longer a micro - with the big Ukiah &
Saratoga plants.

Is the beer still good? I recently saw the Hopland pub on the
Beerhunter series (Fritz Maytag & company dropped in for a couple of
beers on the way to see the barley harvest)
cheers
MikeMcG

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Old 27-03-2007, 08:58 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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MikeMcG wrote:
On 27 Mar, 11:52, wrote:
MikeMcGwrote:

the UK is where much of the world's "indian" beer comes from -
Shepherd Neame, Kent brew Kingfisher,

Shepherd Neame is now part of the giant Indian beverage
conglomerate UB,


are you sure? Scottish & Newcastle (aka Scottish Courage) did a deal
with UB a few years back, which, it was suggested might mean the end
of Shepherd Neame's lucrative contract to brew & distribute
Kingfisher in the UK, but I've heard nothing about UB taking over
Shepherd Neame - the UK's oldest independent family-controlled
brewery (since 1698).

Are you confusing 2 UK breweing companies with similar initials, both
linked to UB? Tho as far as I can see, neither have been taken over
by UB.


You know, when I first wrote that, I wrote something like "that Shepherd
Neame has some
sort of connection with UB" but changed it based on this:
"UB Shepherd Neame Limited (UBSN), based in Faversham, Kent in the
United Kingdom, is an ultimate wholly-owned subsidiary company of
Mendicino Brewing Co. Inc., USA."
http://www.theubgroup.com/associates.html

But, re-reading it, it is sort of confusing, all the strange connections
between these breweries (and, yeah, the addition of S&N in the mix is
all the more complicated). I do remember reading that one of the
Neame's is on the board of UB, but their website is also confusing and I
can't find it today.
This financial site, also seems to claims Shepherd Neame is owned by UB-
http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13659617

"The UB group's presence, in these markets, is through its 100 percent
subsidiary, UB Shepherd Neame (UBSN)." Perhaps UBSN is not the brewery
itself, but just a distribution/importer company now owned by UB?

which also owns several microbreweries in the US (Mendocino and
Saratoga Springs)- which is where "our" Kingfisher comes from in
the States.


I coulda sworn when I was in the States in 1999 I saw ShepherdNeame
brewed Kingfisher there.


Oh, that's entirely possible- I think the US-brewed Kingfisher is
getting a slow roll-out.


I didn't know UB owned Mendocino though - interesting stuff. By the
looks of things they're no longer a micro - with the big Ukiah &
Saratoga plants.


Again, the wording on the site is very vague- "In 1997, Dr. Vijay Mallya
invested into the company." Not UB invested or bought controlling
shares.... http://www.mendobrew.com/company/history.html


Is the beer still good?


Can't say I've had one in many years. While many liquor stores (where
beer is sold in my state) in my area are owned by Indians and Kingfisher
is on the shelves, I don't usually drink light lagers and most of the
Indian restaurants I go to don't have licenses for selling beer.

I recently saw the Hopland pub on the
Beerhunter series (Fritz Maytag & company dropped in for a couple of
beers on the way to see the barley harvest) cheers MikeMcG


Hmmm...I've got an old DVD of that series but haven't looked at it in
years...

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Old 27-03-2007, 10:55 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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On 27 Mar, 19:58, wrote:
MikeMcGwrote:
On 27 Mar, 11:52, wrote:
MikeMcGwrote:


the UK is where much of the world's "indian" beer comes from -
Shepherd Neame, Kent brew Kingfisher,
Shepherd Neame is now part of the giant Indian beverage
conglomerate UB,


are you sure? Scottish & Newcastle (aka Scottish Courage) did a deal
with UB a few years back, which, it was suggested might mean the end
of Shepherd Neame's lucrative contract to brew & distribute
Kingfisher in the UK, but I've heard nothing about UB taking over
Shepherd Neame - the UK's oldest independent family-controlled
brewery (since 1698).


Are you confusing 2 UK brewing companies with similar initials, both
linked to UB? Tho as far as I can see, neither have been taken over
by UB.


You know, when I first wrote that, I wrote something like "that Shepherd
Neame has some
sort of connection with UB" but changed it based on this:
"UB Shepherd Neame Limited (UBSN), based in Faversham, Kent in the
United Kingdom, is an ultimate wholly-owned subsidiary company of
Mendicino Brewing Co. Inc., USA."http://www.theubgroup.com/associates.html

But, re-reading it, it is sort of confusing, all the strange connections
between these breweries (and, yeah, the addition of S&N in the mix is
all the more complicated). I do remember reading that one of the
Neame's is on the board of UB, but their website is also confusing and I
can't find it today.
This financial site, also seems to claims Shepherd Neame is owned byUB -
http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13659617

"The UB group's presence, in these markets, is through its 100 percent
subsidiary, UB Shepherd Neame (UBSN)." Perhaps UBSN is not the brewery
itself, but just a distribution/importer company now owned by UB?


I think that's exactly it - Shep's website has nothing about change of
ownership of the brewery.

Wells&Youngs have just done a similar sounding deal with
ScottishCourage & created a separate business mainly owned by W&Y,
this company now contracts W&Y to brew & distribute the Courage
brands.

I coulda sworn when I was in the States in 1999 I saw ShepherdNeame
brewed Kingfisher there.


Oh, that's entirely possible- I think the US-brewed Kingfisher is
getting a slow roll-out.


yep, one of your links says Canada, Ireland & 17 Euro countries are
still supplied from Kent.

(re Mendocino)
Is the beer still good?


Can't say I've had one in many years. While many liquor stores (where
beer is sold in my state) in my area are owned by Indians and Kingfisher
is on the shelves, I don't usually drink light lagers


no me neither - if the Mendocino Kingfisher is anything like the
Shep's version it's not really worth bothering with.
I was more curious if Mendocino getting much larger & brewing on 3
sites had changed the quality of their regular beers any.

and most of the Indian restaurants I go to don't have licenses for selling beer.


But do they let you bring your own?

I recently saw the Hopland pub on the Beerhunter series (Fritz Maytag & company dropped in for a couple of
beers on the way to see the barley harvest) cheersMikeMcG


Hmmm...I've got an old DVD of that series but haven't looked at it in years...


it's really heartening stuff, especially the Maytag episode. The
series was AFAIK only ever shown on UK TV once & never released here
on VHS or DVD (I bought mine from an Ohio video store, via amazon.com)
cheers
MikeMcG

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Old 27-03-2007, 11:38 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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MikeMcG wrote:
On 27 Mar, 19:58, wrote:

..
Are you confusing 2 UK brewing companies with similar initials, both
linked to UB? Tho as far as I can see, neither have been taken over
by UB.


You know, when I first wrote that, I wrote something like "that Shepherd
Neame has some
sort of connection with UB" but changed it .....
"The UB group's presence, in these markets, is through its 100 percent
subsidiary, UB Shepherd Neame (UBSN)." Perhaps UBSN is not the brewery
itself, but just a distribution/importer company now owned by UB?


I think that's exactly it - Shep's website has nothing about change of
ownership of the brewery.


Yeah, should have stuck with "some connection with UB"- I'm usually a
stickler for accuracy and when I did a quick check to make sure I was
remembering it right, I mis-read it. Now I wonder if the "Neame" I saw
as part of the corporate officers was for UBSN and not UB.


Wells&Youngs have just done a similar sounding deal with
ScottishCourage & created a separate business mainly owned by W&Y,
this company now contracts W&Y to brew & distribute the Courage
brands.


Oh, yeah, I've read that. Didn't Youngs also have the contract for
Mackeson's Stout for a while, too? (We get a contract-brewed MS by
Boston Beer Co., in Cincinnati in the states but I miss the UK version-
even if it was a different recipe that the local stuff, apparently).
So far, we haven't received any of the Young's beer brewed at the Wells
site but it seems they've dropped a few labels (Dirty Dick, Oatmeal Stout).

I coulda sworn when I was in the States in 1999 I saw ShepherdNeame
brewed Kingfisher there.


Oh, that's entirely possible- I think the US-brewed Kingfisher is
getting a slow roll-out.


yep, one of your links says Canada, Ireland & 17 Euro countries are
still supplied from Kent.


I'd figured the Mendocino/Saratoga stuff was strictly for the US market,
but anything is possible.

(re Mendocino)
Is the beer still good?

Can't say I've had one in many years.


no me neither - if the Mendocino Kingfisher is anything like the
Shep's version it's not really worth bothering with.


Yeah, that's what I figured, and the green bottle is enough to turn me
off if I ever get "curious"...

I was more curious if Mendocino getting much larger & brewing on 3
sites had changed the quality of their regular beers any.


I can't say as the Mendocino brands ever made much of an impression on
me- I tend to drink "local" Northeast beers unless something has an
reputation for being out of the ordinarily good, rare, different, etc.
The Saratoga brewery does a LOT of contract brewing for many Northeast
breweries that, I take it, are too small to afford a bottling line, and
are rather open about it (unlike a lot of contractors and contractees):
http://www.oldesaratogabrew.com/contractbrews.html I was impressed
with their Thomas Hooker IPA (which I recently got in a trade) and the
He'Brew line has a couple of interesting specialty beers (despite
sounding like a gimmick brewery) like Bittersweet Lenny's and
Jewbulation and I see there's a new ORIGIN POMEGRANATE ALE...hmmm....not
that I care for most fruit beers but I make an exception for "tart"
ones...

and most of the Indian restaurants I go to don't have licenses for selling beer.


But do they let you bring your own?


Oh, yes. In fact, I prefer it that way- I've got a better selection in
my refrigerator than most ethnic restaurants are going to have and feel
no need to match the "nationality" of the beer with the food. (I like
something hoppy to cut through spicy foods, anyway.)


I recently saw the Hopland pub on the Beerhunter series (Fritz Maytag & company dropped in for a couple of
beers on the way to see the barley harvest) cheersMikeMcG

Hmmm...I've got an old DVD of that series but haven't looked at it in years...


it's really heartening stuff, especially the Maytag episode. The
series was AFAIK only ever shown on UK TV once & never released here
on VHS or DVD (I bought mine from an Ohio video store, via amazon.com)


I''ll have to break it out again some rainy day...
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Old 28-03-2007, 11:59 AM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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On 27 Mar, 22:38, wrote:
MikeMcG wrote:
On 27 Mar, 19:58, wrote:

.much snippage
Now I wonder if the "Neame" I saw
as part of the corporate officers was for UBSN and not UB.


Possibly - I would guess both companies would have representatives on
the board of USBN.

Wells&Youngs have just done a similar sounding deal with
ScottishCourage & created a separate business mainly owned by W&Y,
this company now contracts W&Y to brew & distribute the Courage
brands.


Oh, yeah, I've read that. Didn't Youngs also have the contract for
Mackeson's Stout for a while, too?


AFAIK Ridley's (closed by Greene King aka Greed King) used to brew
Mackeson's for UK (at a low ABV) & export at a healthier strength. I
knew the ex-headbrewer & she said the unfiltered unpasteurised version
was lovely (this was about year 2000).

Wikipedia says Youngs had the contract, but that it's brewed in London
(where, as you know, Young's no longer brew). I'm guessing the
contract followed them to Charles Wells, Bedford

(We get a contract-brewed MS by
Boston Beer Co., in Cincinnati in the states but I miss the UK version-
even if it was a different recipe that the local stuff, apparently).


Same recipe, apart from added water to ours!

more snippling

I can't say as the Mendocino brands ever made much of an impression on
me- I tend to drink "local" Northeast beers unless something has an
reputation for being out of the ordinarily good, rare, different, etc.
The Saratoga brewery does a LOT of contract brewing for many Northeast
breweries that, I take it, are too small to afford a bottling line, and
are rather open about it (unlike a lot of contractors and contractees):
http://www.oldesaratogabrew.com/contractbrews.html I was impressed
with their Thomas Hooker IPA (which I recently got in a trade) and the
He'Brew line has a couple of interesting specialty beers (despite
sounding like a gimmick brewery) like Bittersweet Lenny's and
Jewbulation and I see there's a new ORIGIN POMEGRANATE ALE...hmmm....not
that I care for most fruit beers but I make an exception for "tart" ones...


I had a look at the link - I thought Dock Street had died entirely - I
remember reading about them way back in one of MJ's books - for a
brewpub they really seemed to punch above their weight. I finally got
to try some of their beers, when I visited friends in Philly in 1999,
but we went to the newer Terminal Market place. Good beer though.

From reading betwixt lines, it seems they don't have a brewery or pub

of their own at the moment? But it's good to see that one of the
originators is involved in its reappearance.

and most of the Indian restaurants I go to don't have licenses for selling beer.


But do they let you bring your own?


Oh, yes. In fact, I prefer it that way- I've got a better selection in
my refrigerator than most ethnic restaurants are going to have and feel
no need to match the "nationality" of the beer with the food. (I like
something hoppy to cut through spicy foods, anyway.)


likewise you don't often get decent beer sold in a curryhouse here,
but the unlicensed ones (& some others) will often let you bring your
own in (some don't sell alcohol on religious grounds). There's a great
curry house in Bradford (Yorkshire) next door to a cracking real ale
pub & they let you take your pints straight in :~)

My only bad experience of this situation was in a Wirral (nr
Liverpool) curry house - I let a waiter open a bottle-conditioned
beer, which proceeded to gush out of the bottle all over his shirt,
while I opened another bottle all over the tablecloth! (lovely beer,
but this batch was way too way too carbonated - Freeminer 'Goldminer,
bottled by Marston's)

cheers,
MikeMcG

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Old 28-03-2007, 01:25 PM posted to rec.food.drink.beer
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put down his beer long enough to post :

dear sir,
iam a food engg. and iam searching for a job pls help me by
providing me the addresses of indian beweries.


heh heh. oh how far the mighty FEKLAAR has fallen.

DB

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