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Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not...
I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Do I start a separate pile of charcoal in a side grill and then add lumps periodically to the main grill to keep the temp up? If so, can anyone estimate how many lumps I would add and how frequently? How much can the temp swing over time without completely botching the effort? Thanks for any help you can provide. Scooter |
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Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not... I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Good so far, you can put your coals on one side. But you do know that your starting out with a fairly high degree of difficulty by using hardware not meant for task don't you? One of the things you might want to try that I've read others in your boat do is use alu foil as a baffle. That is drape some foil over your grate so it hangs vertically below and between the fire and the meat so the the direct heat is avoided as much as possible. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Do I start a separate pile of charcoal in a side grill and then add lumps periodically to the main grill to keep the temp up? Well, I'd really suggest finding a source of hardwood lump like Royal Oak. You can add wood charcoal to a fire directly without having to first burn the toxins off. If so, can anyone estimate how many lumps I would add and how frequently? Not really, it'll depend on the size of your cooker, and a lot of other variables. When I "direct smoke" in a grill, I keep a small fire on one side of the cooker with the meat under the stack. But I've got a barrell type cooker where that's possible. Sounds like you have a square one. How much can the temp swing over time without completely botching the effort? Quite a bit really, depending on the cut of meat. Some meat like pork butt will take pretty high spikes without a problem, pork ribs are a bit less forgiving, but short spikes to 275F aren't a problem, nor are lows of 200 or a little less) , which you should expect when you add fuel. I like side firebox grill/smokers myself. Then you got the best of both worlds. Or a $170 WSM gets a lot of atta-boys too, but it's single use for bbq/smoking. Good luck, you'll need it and patience I think. |
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On 2006-08-13 15:40:33 -0500, "Scooter" said:
Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not... I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Use the minion method: pour a chimney-full of lit hardwood lump charcoal on top of a bed of unlit charcoal. Since heat tends to rise, the charcoal underneath burns gradually. Do not attempt this method with briquettes. |
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"Hal Burton" wrote in message news:2006081322434916807-hal@burtonspam... On 2006-08-13 15:40:33 -0500, "Scooter" said: Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not... I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Use the minion method: pour a chimney-full of lit hardwood lump charcoal on top of a bed of unlit charcoal. Since heat tends to rise, the charcoal underneath burns gradually. Do not attempt this method with briquettes. The Minion Method works fine with briquettes also. I've done cooks using this method for 14-16 hours using Kingsford in my WSM. As a variation, sometimes I just load up the charcoal ring with briquettes or lump, and light 2-3 spots in the pile with a propane torch. Faster than waiting for a chimney to fully light. |
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"Hal Burton" wrote in message news:2006081322434916807-hal@burtonspam... On 2006-08-13 15:40:33 -0500, "Scooter" said: Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not... I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Use the minion method: pour a chimney-full of lit hardwood lump charcoal on top of a bed of unlit charcoal. Since heat tends to rise, the charcoal underneath burns gradually. Do not attempt this method with briquettes. The Minion Method works fine with briquettes also. I've done cooks using this method for 14-16 hours using Kingsford in my WSM. As a variation, sometimes I just load up the charcoal ring with briquettes or lump, and light 2-3 spots in the pile with a propane torch. Faster than waiting for a chimney to fully light. |
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Thanks for the tips! Looks like it's time to give hardwood lump a try.
I need to do some research and see what's available locally, but does anyone have any favorite brands to suggest, or any to steer clear of? Scooter |
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"Scooter" wrote:
Thanks for the tips! Looks like it's time to give hardwood lump a try. I need to do some research and see what's available locally, but does anyone have any favorite brands to suggest, or any to steer clear of? http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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n_cramer typed:
"Scooter" wrote: Thanks for the tips! Looks like it's time to give hardwood lump a try. I need to do some research and see what's available locally, but does anyone have any favorite brands to suggest, or any to steer clear of? http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm Ya beet me by that much ......... with that post, ya old skirt-wearing KKalifornian. BOB |
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" BOB" wrote:
n_cramer typed: "Scooter" wrote: Thanks for the tips! Looks like it's time to give hardwood lump a try. I need to do some research and see what's available locally, but does anyone have any favorite brands to suggest, or any to steer clear of? http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm Ya beet me by that much ......... with that post, ya old skirt-wearing KKalifornian. Heh heh! BTW It's a pakhama, not a skirt. Far right of most left-coasters, -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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Scooter wrote:
snip charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I snip Scooter Scooter, Go here http://tinyurl.com/ltnj7 I have pictures showing in detail how one might set up briquettes to cook extended period of times. You stack them in a long line, which sets your duration and you stack more or less which sets your temperature. Hope it helps ya! -- Regards, Piedmont The Practical Bar-B-Q'r at: http://web.infoave.net/~amwil/Index.htm Why America is hated~The Secret American Government: http://tinyurl.com/rbwbz |
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"Scooter" wrote in message ups.com... Looking for assistance from experienced barbecuers, which I am not... I'm good on grilling but now I want to figure out barbecuing. I have an offbrand (but capable) charcoal grill which has a vent on the lid and two sets of vents on the sides, opposite each other. Using normal charcoal briquets. I want to be able to keep the temp low (250F or less) for a prolonged period of time (2 hours or more). I assume I start the charcoal normally and then wait until the temp drops to where I want it, but then how do I keep it there as it naturally continues to drop? Do I start a separate pile of charcoal in a side grill and then add lumps periodically to the main grill to keep the temp up? If so, can anyone estimate how many lumps I would add and how frequently? How much can the temp swing over time without completely botching the effort? Thanks for any help you can provide. Scooter Try this http://virtualweberbullet.com/fireup2.html#minion |