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Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket



 
 
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Old 27-03-2006, 12:57 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
pheasant
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?

Thanks

Mark


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Old 27-03-2006, 01:45 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Reg[_1_]
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

pheasant wrote:

Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?

Thanks

Mark


Hey pheasant, how's the hunting this year?

Pressure cookers are an amazing contraption. I use them
for stews and braises and they're a great timesaver.

As far as pressure cooking brisket before smoking it, I've
not heard of that, though I know there are some commercial
producers that steam their pastrami before smoking it.

Personally, I take pride in getting maximum tenderness
using the pit alone. No foiling, either. But if the
pressure cooker works for you then that's great. What
matters is eating food you like.

Ever consider making pastrami instead of corned beef?
It's not much more difficult. You just soak it in a
brine for a week before cooking.

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Old 27-03-2006, 01:47 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

pheasant wrote:
:: Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most
tender
:: corned eef I've ever made.
::
:: Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
:: smoking/cooking it?
::
:: Thanks
::
:: Mark

You probably boil your ribs too, don't you.

Please explain what a pressure cooker has to do with barbecue.

Thanks,

BOB

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Old 27-03-2006, 01:55 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Reg[_1_]
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Reg wrote:

Ever consider making pastrami instead of corned beef?
It's not much more difficult. You just soak it in a
brine for a week before cooking.


Please ignore the above insanity. Posting to usenet while
writing a lot of code doesn't always go well.

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Old 27-03-2006, 01:56 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Edwin Pawlowski
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"pheasant" wrote in message
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Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?


Nope, it would ruin it. Tender? Maybe. Will it be BBQ? NO Has to do
with the laws of physics.


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Old 27-03-2006, 02:33 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket


"pheasant" wrote in message
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Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?



Oops

Guess this group's mind is closed tighter than an autoclave at 25 pounds.

Sorry I asked a queston. The door hit my ass on the way out.


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Old 27-03-2006, 02:43 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
BOB
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Reg wrote:
:: Reg wrote:
::
::: Ever consider making pastrami instead of corned beef?
::: It's not much more difficult. You just soak it in a
::: brine for a week before cooking.
:::
::
:: Please ignore the above insanity. Posting to usenet while
:: writing a lot of code doesn't always go well.
::
:: --
:: Reg

Well, since I knew what you were talking about (the past 2 weekends,
I've made about 50# of "pastrami" and the weekend before, I smoked a
brisket that I had actually corned myself), it made perfect sense to
me.

BOB

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Old 27-03-2006, 04:41 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

"pheasant" wrote in message

Oops

Guess this group's mind is closed tighter than an autoclave at 25 pounds.

Sorry I asked a queston. The door hit my ass on the way out.


Well, the mind's closed to as what BBQ is of course.

It *is* open to good cooking, even alternatives to BBQ when weather or time
are against us. We even suppose it's possible that there's other ways to
create something that some find better. And we tend to pity them for not
knowing better. But then this is a BBQ group, not a cooking group. And we
pity those who cannot tell the difference as well.

So there ya are.


D
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Old 27-03-2006, 05:00 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Abe
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Did some corned beef in the pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned beef I've ever made.

As to pressure cooking in general, I find that it makes meat taste
'dead' or 'spent.'
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Old 27-03-2006, 05:57 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Harry Demidavicius
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:11:13 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:57:46 -0600, "pheasant"
wrote:

Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most tender
corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?


Allow me to speak for the group...

Everybody here pre-cooks their beef by either pressure cooking or
boiling it with some liquid smoke (Colgin's or Wright's) before
they smoke it.

Then after about a half-hour in the smoker, you pour some Bullseye
BBQ sauce all over it, wrap it in foil and put it in a 425F oven
for a few hours.

Best brisket you ever tasted.

-sw


Oh Steve, that was just so eloquently said. I just choke up thinking
about it. . . . . .
Harry
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Old 27-03-2006, 06:01 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

"Duwop" wrote:
"pheasant" wrote in message

Oops

Guess this group's mind is closed tighter than an autoclave at 25
pounds.

Sorry I asked a queston. The door hit my ass on the way out.


Well, the mind's closed to as what BBQ is of course.

It *is* open to good cooking, even alternatives to BBQ when weather or
time are against us. We even suppose it's possible that there's other
ways to create something that some find better. And we tend to pity them
for not knowing better. But then this is a BBQ group, not a cooking
group. And we pity those who cannot tell the difference as well.

So there ya are.

Ah, bur pheasant can be good:

PHEASANT IN SHOTGUN SAUCE

Cut young pheasant in half lengthwise. Salt and pepper both sides. On
a sheet of foil place a slice of bacon - put one half of bird on
top of bacon. In the cavity, put a generous piece of butter, 1
tablespoon currant jelly, top that with a slice of bacon. Wrap in
the foil like a package. Put on cookie sheet and bake 3 hours at
350 F. Open the foil and spoon shotgun sauce over bird and place
under broiler until light brown [and internal temp is at least 145° F].
Serve with sauce.

NOTE: For BBQ, leave bird whole, wrap in re-constituted bentonite clay
instead of foil and Q over strong fruit (not liquid) smoke. Replace foil
with clay elsewhere in recipe.


SHOTGUN SAUCE

1 cup currant jelly
1/2 cup butter
dash Worcestershire sauce

Bring to a good boil and boil 5 minutes. Stir down, remove foam and
serve.

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Old 27-03-2006, 06:05 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Harry Demidavicius wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:11:13 -0600, Steve Wertz
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:57:46 -0600, "pheasant"

Did some corned beef in thte pressure cooker, and that was the most
tender corned eef I've ever made.

Just wondering if anyone does this with a full brisket before
smoking/cooking it?


Allow me to speak for the group...

Everybody here pre-cooks their beef by either pressure cooking or
boiling it with some liquid smoke (Colgin's or Wright's) before
they smoke it.

Then after about a half-hour in the smoker, you pour some Bullseye
BBQ sauce all over it, wrap it in foil and put it in a 425F oven
for a few hours.

Best brisket you ever tasted.

-sw


Oh Steve, that was just so eloquently said. I just choke up thinking
about it. . . . . .

Steve is the Hemingway of Epicureans. Pheasant is good under clay.

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Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! !
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Old 27-03-2006, 07:29 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Pressure cooking to tenderize brisket

Steve Wertz wrote:

snip....
Best brisket you ever tasted.


Darn it, Steve, you're giving away the Cabal's secrets. How are we going to
ever laugh at the newbies that think they gotta spend all that time at their
snicker pit-o-choice. Half the fun of belonging to the group is directing
them to that fake BBQ FAQ, and convincing them that low-n-slow is the way to
go. Next thing you'll let slip is that lump charcoal is a farce and it
really IS best to soak briquettes in lighter fluid. Dang, I hate it when an
elaborate ruse bites the dust.
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www.davebbq.com


 




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