The wife wants goose for Christmas. This would be my first goose in the
smoker. Any suggestions?

Burnt Food Dude wrote:

> The wife wants goose for Christmas. This would be my first goose in the
> smoker. Any suggestions?

I'll be doing another goose this year too. A couple things.

First, you'll have the same problem smoking goose as most
other poultry. If your temp is too low the skin won't be
any good. Anything below about 300 F, and even at 300 the
skin won't be very crispy.

My approach is to do a two stage cook. 250 F in the smoker,
then 350+ F indirect on the grill. You can also finish in
the oven. Your final temp should be about 170 F in the breast,
a little higher is OK. I always brine, but it's not
a requirement because it's all dark meat.

The thing will throw off huge amounts of fat, so be prepared.
Expect about 4-6 cups from a 12 pound bird. Save it if
you can, it's great to fry stuff in.

Goose have a gigantic cavity so they're a natural for
stuffing. You actually end up with enough stuffing to go
with the meat, unlike chicken or turkey. I like a apple/sage.
No sausage stuffing here because they're already so much
fat. This year I'm thinking of adding in some wild rice.
Cornbread works well too.

You could skip the smoker and just roast it, but there's
nothing like smoked goose. I say give it a shot.

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"Burnt Food Dude" <burntfooddude@(no spam)yahoo.com> wrote in message
. ..
> The wife wants goose for Christmas. This would be my first goose in the
> smoker. Any suggestions?
>

I know there is a great joke here somewhere. lol.
I just don't wanna be the one to say it. ; )

Cliff

"Cliff" > wrote in message
news:W3ijf.369735$084.83911@attbi_s22...
> "Burnt Food Dude" <burntfooddude@(no spam)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> . ..
>> The wife wants goose for Christmas. This would be my first goose in the
>> smoker. Any suggestions?
>>
>
> I know there is a great joke here somewhere. lol.
> I just don't wanna be the one to say it. ; )
>
> Cliff

After I sent it I re-read it and thought, "OMG, this is gonna start a few
chuckles and maybe some bawdy replies."

Seriously I've Googled "smoked goose" and came up with very little. Basiclly
the ones I've found say to get a goose, season it, some say prick the skin &
some don't, put in smoker for anywhere for 1 hour (total) or 1.5 hours per
pound.

Some say goose is very fatty others say goose is very lean. Don't say smoke
it like a duck or pheasant because I haven't done a duck or pheasant. This
would be my first goose.

I wondered if anyone has done a goose on a smoker and what tips can you give
me on how to do it. Do I brine, like other poultry? What temp do I take it
to? One place said 160 another said 180. They never did say where to take
the temp from.

Am I blazing a trail? I'm so confused!

Burnt Food Dude wrote:

> Seriously I've Googled "smoked goose" and came up with very little. Basiclly
> the ones I've found say to get a goose, season it, some say prick the skin &
> some don't, put in smoker for anywhere for 1 hour (total) or 1.5 hours per
> pound.
>
> Some say goose is very fatty others say goose is very lean. Don't say smoke
> it like a duck or pheasant because I haven't done a duck or pheasant. This
> would be my first goose.

Farm raised geese, i.e. what you'll get from the store, are extremely
fatty. Wild are much leaner.

> I wondered if anyone has done a goose on a smoker and what tips can you give
> me on how to do it. Do I brine, like other poultry? What temp do I take it
> to? One place said 160 another said 180. They never did say where to take
> the temp from.
>
> Am I blazing a trail? I'm so confused!

<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.barbecue/msg/b48f497b1fe6b63c?hl=en>

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"Reg" > wrote in message
news
> Burnt Food Dude wrote:
>
>> Seriously I've Googled "smoked goose" and came up with very little.
>> Basiclly the ones I've found say to get a goose, season it, some say
>> prick the skin & some don't, put in smoker for anywhere for 1 hour
>> (total) or 1.5 hours per pound.
>>
>> Some say goose is very fatty others say goose is very lean. Don't say
>> smoke it like a duck or pheasant because I haven't done a duck or
>> pheasant. This would be my first goose.
>
> Farm raised geese, i.e. what you'll get from the store, are extremely
> fatty. Wild are much leaner.
>
>> I wondered if anyone has done a goose on a smoker and what tips can you
>> give me on how to do it. Do I brine, like other poultry? What temp do I
>> take it to? One place said 160 another said 180. They never did say where
>> to take the temp from.
>>
>> Am I blazing a trail? I'm so confused!
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.barbecue/msg/b48f497b1fe6b63c?hl=en>
>
> --
> Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

Thanks. I didn't find that message on Google. I didn't do the groups. Just
searched the web.

"Eddie" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:47:34 GMT, "Cliff"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Burnt Food Dude" <burntfooddude@(no spam)yahoo.com> wrote in message
m...
>>> The wife wants goose for Christmas. This would be my first goose in the
>>> smoker. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
>>I know there is a great joke here somewhere. lol.
>>I just don't wanna be the one to say it. ; )
>>
>>Cliff
>>
> Cliff, I've always wanted to say this.
> Hey BFD, tell us when your goose is cooked.
> Eddie
> ducking

Har-de- har-har!

Burnt Food Dude wrote:

> Thanks. I didn't find that message on Google. I didn't do the groups. Just
> searched the web.

Sure. Glad you brought up the subject... you've got me thinking
about new ways to do the goose this year. I think I'll try
tea smoking it this time. A duck technique that should work well
for goose too.

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"Reg" > wrote in message
...
> Burnt Food Dude wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I didn't find that message on Google. I didn't do the groups.
>> Just searched the web.
>
> Sure. Glad you brought up the subject... you've got me thinking
> about new ways to do the goose this year. I think I'll try
> tea smoking it this time. A duck technique that should work well
> for goose too.
>
> --
> Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

Tea smoking. An old Chineese custom. Isn't it done in a wok?

Burnt Food Dude wrote:

> "Reg" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Sure. Glad you brought up the subject... you've got me thinking
>>about new ways to do the goose this year. I think I'll try
>>tea smoking it this time. A duck technique that should work well
>>for goose too.
>
> Tea smoking. An old Chineese custom. Isn't it done in a wok?
>

Yes, I see that in recipes a lot. It works better in a pit
fortunately.

I use a mixture of 2 parts tea, 1 part rice, and 1 part
sugar.

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"Eddie" > wrote in message
...
> On 01 Dec 2005 08:44:36 GMT, wrote:
>
>>Eddie > wrote:
>>> >>>I know there is a great joke here somewhere. lol.
>>> >>>I just don't wanna be the one to say it. ; )
>>> >>>
>>> >> Cliff, I've always wanted to say this.
>>> >> Hey BFD, tell us when your goose is cooked.
>>> >> Eddie
>>> >> ducking
>>> >
>>> >Har-de- har-har!
>>> >
>>> BFD, I remember taking a class once and after each student had
>>> introduced themselves, the instructor, finding that one of the gals
>>> was named Nellie, said:
>>> "I've always wanted to say this. Whoooa Nellie"
>>> Everybody laughed, including Nellie.
>>>
>>Older joke: "Whooa Thousnd Dollars"
> Nick, I don't get it.
>
> Way OT. I was watching the Military Channel today. Can you name the
> most powerful country in the world? Easy, the U.S. Ok, I know which
> is third, but which is 2nd. Would it be Russia? UK?
> I really don't know.
> Oh, btw, the 3rd is a Trident sub.
> Eddie

I believe the 2nd is a tie. It's either China or the AC Ronald Regan.

In article >, hawaii-50
@sbcglobal.net says...
> On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:39:49 GMT, "Burnt Food Dude" <burntfooddude@(no
> spam)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
> >> Way OT. I was watching the Military Channel today. Can you name the
> >> most powerful country in the world? Easy, the U.S. Ok, I know which
> >> is third, but which is 2nd. Would it be Russia? UK?
> >> I really don't know.
> >> Oh, btw, the 3rd is a Trident sub.
> >> Eddie
> >
> >I believe the 2nd is a tie. It's either China or the AC Ronald Regan.
> >
> hmmm, I don't think it's China. They have the people for sure, but
> firepower? Could it be Russia?
> The Reagan is doubtful. I don't believe it carries ICBM's.
> Eddie
>

You know, they can fly those nukes in on aircraft and cruise missles
now.

Bill

You got that one right

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China. In their dreams, they have the numbers, but nothing else.
2nd must be an Ageias class cruiser/destroyer. Love that channel.
Good film footage and I still call a Jap a Jap.

In article >, hawaii-50
@sbcglobal.net says...
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:59:40 -0800, Bill
> >> hmmm, I don't think it's China. They have the people for sure, but
> >> firepower? Could it be Russia?
> >> The Reagan is doubtful. I don't believe it carries ICBM's.
> >> Eddie
> >>
> >
> > You know, they can fly those nukes in on aircraft and cruise missles
> >now.
> 5000 miles?
> Eddie
> >
> > Bill

What's mileage got to do with how many nukes you can carry? They just
park the boat closer.

Bill

In article >, hawaii-50
@sbcglobal.net says...
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:59:24 -0800, Bill
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, hawaii-50
> says...
> >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:59:40 -0800, Bill
> >> >> hmmm, I don't think it's China. They have the people for sure, but
> >> >> firepower? Could it be Russia?
> >> >> The Reagan is doubtful. I don't believe it carries ICBM's.
> >> >> Eddie
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > You know, they can fly those nukes in on aircraft and cruise missles
> >> >now.
> >> 5000 miles?
> >> Eddie
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >
> > What's mileage got to do with how many nukes you can carry? They just
> >park the boat closer.
> That's a hell of a signature you give at 1,100 feet long. Park a sub
> in the middle of nowhere and zap! (that's the sound of a country
> being vaporized)
> Eddie

I thought the comparison was to the amount of destructive power
carried.

AC travel in battlegroups. Sinking one not the easyist thing to do in
the world.

Bill

On 3 Dec 2005 16:34:04 -0800, "robrjt" > wrote:

>Good film footage and I still call a Jap a Jap.

Good for you, Chuckles. Next time you decide to post racist nonsense,
include some of what you're replying to so we have some idea what the
hell you're talking about.

On second thought, don't bother. Just STFU instead.

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
> On 3 Dec 2005 16:34:04 -0800, "robrjt" > wrote:
>
> >Good film footage and I still call a Jap a Jap.
>
> Good for you, Chuckles. Next time you decide to post racist nonsense,
> include some of what you're replying to so we have some idea what the
> hell you're talking about.
>
> On second thought, don't bother. Just STFU instead.


Kevin, one day you might earn a spot next to the other civil rights
leaders on the the Smoking Gun site.

It isn't as if you tried to play the race card by pretending to be black
when the circumstances were ripe.

HAND

Racist? What are you some dumb redneck or a wimpy politically correct
asshole? Likely both, as I've Jap friends, and they have Yank
friends.

"robrjt" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Racist? What are you some dumb redneck or a wimpy politically correct
> asshole? Likely both, as I've Jap friends, and they have Yank
> friends.
>

You're "Jap" friends will simply love you calling them "Japs". Hey, come on,
the sake and sashimi will be landed in your direction with that close
friendship...Bwahahahah

You didn't quite pick up the hint to reply to the text you are replying to,
young man. It ain't a difficult concept, Usernet.

Got to put you in my personal compost bin, as you have plainly **** all to
add to this ng.

Sayonara.

Walker desu.

On 5 Dec 2005 12:25:46 -0800, "robrjt" > wrote:

>Racist?

That's what I said, racist. You having some trouble understanding the
concept?

>What are you some dumb redneck or a wimpy politically correct
>asshole?

I have a feeling that much of your limited and limiting world comes
down to only two options.

>Likely both, as I've Jap friends, and they have Yank
>friends.

Oh, I see. Some of your best friends are "Japs." Well that excuses all
kind of boorish, racist behavior, doesn't it?

PS: Don't post again until your neighbor's 6-year-old kid has
explained to you how to quote part of what you're replying to.

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
:: PS: Don't post again until your neighbor's 6-year-old kid has
:: explained to you how to quote part of what you're replying to.

So...

Who died and made you God?

Nobody? I didn't think so. How about *YOU* don't post until you
learn some "people skills" and what *ON TOPIC* means?

HAND
BMA
FO
and
KMA, AH!

BOB

Oh, I fergot...Bozo and Chuckles said to tell you they said "Hi!"

"robrjt" > wrote:
> Racist? What are you some dumb redneck or a wimpy politically correct
> asshole? Likely both, as I've Jap friends, and they have Yank
> friends.

Since you quote neither the sender, nor relevent text, to which you reply,
I'm sticking my neck out in assuming it was from Kevvie, who is both and
worse.

That being said, I still remember from WW II that 'Jap' was a pejorative
term. However, I don't judge you based on your use of the term. I do
suspect that your Japanese friends are hurt by your use of the term, but
are culturally too polite to let it show.

Do tashimashita!

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:00:08 -0500, " BOB" > wrote:

>Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
>:: PS: Don't post again until your neighbor's 6-year-old kid has
>:: explained to you how to quote part of what you're replying to.
>
>So...
>
>Who died and made you God?

What are you, five years old? At least try to be somewhat original.

>Nobody? I didn't think so. How about *YOU* don't post until you
>learn some "people skills" and what *ON TOPIC* means?

I'll give your request all the consideration it deserves.

On 05 Dec 2005 22:04:34 GMT, wrote:

>Since you quote neither the sender, nor relevent text, to which you reply,
>I'm sticking my neck out in assuming it was from Kevvie, who is both and
>worse.

Try that again, only write in English this time, mmm-kay?

BOB wrote:

> Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
> :: PS: Don't post again until your neighbor's 6-year-old kid has
> :: explained to you how to quote part of what you're replying to.
>
> So...
>
> Who died and made you God?
>
> Nobody? I didn't think so. How about *YOU* don't post until you
> learn some "people skills" and what *ON TOPIC* means?
>
> HAND
> BMA
> FO
> and
> KMA, AH!
>
> BOB
>
> Oh, I fergot...Bozo and Chuckles said to tell you they said "Hi!"
>
>
Email his boss. He knows me by name. We are pen pals and fish in
Canada once a year.

"Dan Krueger" > wrote in message
news
> BOB wrote:
>
> >
> > BOB
> >
> > Oh, I fergot...Bozo and Chuckles said to tell you they said "Hi!"
> >
> >
> Email his boss. He knows me by name. We are pen pals and fish in
> Canada once a year.
>
>


LMFAO......sorry, I had to chuckle at that one.

kili

Bill wrote:

> What's mileage got to do with how many nukes you can carry?

You get points.

"*** Graeme...in London" wrote:
>
>
> You're "Jap" friends will simply love you calling them "Japs".


Nice possesive us of a contraction!

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:32:21 GMT, Dan Krueger
> wrote:

> BOB wrote:
>
>> Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
>> :: PS: Don't post again until your neighbor's 6-year-old kid has
>> :: explained to you how to quote part of what you're replying to.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> Who died and made you God?
>>
>> Nobody? I didn't think so. How about *YOU* don't post until you
>> learn some "people skills" and what *ON TOPIC* means?
>>
>> HAND
>> BMA
>> FO
>> and
>> KMA, AH!
>>
>> BOB
>>
>> Oh, I fergot...Bozo and Chuckles said to tell you they said "Hi!"
>>
>>
>Email his boss. He knows me by name. We are pen pals and fish in
>Canada once a year.
>


Deny it all you want, Dank. You're just not man enough to admit that
you e-mailed my boss on more than one occasion to complain about me
posting to Usenet. As a result, you're reduced to one-liner
leg-humping here and pouncing on any newbie who happens by, in the
desperate hope that someone will talk to you. You're a laughingstock
and a synonym for "moron" in alt.religion.kibology, where you followed
me to hump my leg.

I'm a regular in news.admin.net-abuse.email, too, Dank. How come you
haven't followed me there? Afraid to play with the big boys?

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:29:32 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>
>"Dan Krueger" > wrote in message
>news
>> BOB wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > BOB
>> >
>> > Oh, I fergot...Bozo and Chuckles said to tell you they said "Hi!"
>> >
>> >
>> Email his boss. He knows me by name. We are pen pals and fish in
>> Canada once a year.
>>
>>
>
>
>LMFAO......sorry, I had to chuckle at that one.
>
Oh, yeah, Dank's a barrel of laughs, if you overlook the fact that
he's a sad, pathetic, creepy Net stalker.

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:29:44 GMT, cl > wrote:
>
>"*** Graeme...in London" wrote:
>>
>>
>> You're "Jap" friends will simply love you calling them "Japs".
>
>
>Nice possesive us of a contraction!

Look at that, Graeme. It's a two-fer. CAL calls you *** (Oh, my! What
a zinger!) and once again demonstrates his ignorance about his own
native language. He's ineducable when it comes to the basics of
English, but do you suppose it's time to remind him that "***" is an
insult only on the playgrounds of elementary schools in particularly
bacward towns?

Your intellect is prob on par with what Idaho is famous for. So if
some foreigner calls me a Yank, (another abbreviation of nationality )
Then I must judge them racist? FO
I guess that Christmas tree I bought last eve is racist too. I need to
rename it Holiday bush?

On 6 Dec 2005 07:53:57 -0800, "robrjt" > wrote:

>Your intellect is prob on par with what Idaho is famous for. So if
>some foreigner calls me a Yank, (another abbreviation of nationality )
> Then I must judge them racist? FO

Only a moron who thinks others are as dumb as he is would insist that
"Jap" is not a perjorative term and is merely a benign abbreviation.
But prove me wrong. Find ONE authoritative source that defines "Jap"
as anything other than offensive when applied to people.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

>I guess that Christmas tree I bought last eve is racist too. I need to
>rename it Holiday bush?

No, you need to get an education. And you still need to learn how to
post to Usenet.

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:40:47 -0600, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:48:19 -0700, Kevin S. Wilson
> wrote:
>
>>I'm a regular in news.admin.net-abuse.email, too, Dank. How come you
>>haven't followed me there? Afraid to play with the big boys?
>
>"<pout> My friends will kick your ass <sniff>". Talk about
>playground talk, sheesh.
>
>I think I've heard this challenge 4 times in 2 days (as I was
>catching up on my flame wars).
>
>ObSmoked: Egg salad and smoked gouda on fresh white bread for
>breakfast. That's not racist, is it?
>
No, but I see that you're still a putz. How was jail, by the way?

Steve Wertz wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:29:44 GMT, cl >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"*** Graeme...in London" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You're "Jap" friends will simply love you calling them "Japs".
>>
>>Nice possesive us of a contraction!
>
>
> Who said this group ain't no fun anymore?

Actually, this thread started out as a pretty decent discussion
about goose. It descended into a name calling, sure. And race
baiting, and even a deep, meaningful discussion about nuclear
weapons.

The volume here used to be higher, but are things really worse
off then the days of, fer instance, the CAL wars of 03'?

Or was it 04'?

I've adapted. I just bail out on threads early before things
go south.

--
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:29:44 GMT, cl > wrote:
> >
> >"*** Graeme...in London" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> You're "Jap" friends will simply love you calling them "Japs".
> >
> >
> >Nice possesive us of a contraction!
>
> Look at that, Graeme. It's a two-fer. CAL calls you ***

Are you saying that is a bad thing Kevin?


....And for a shameless plug of Kevin's favorite treat...

> (Oh, my! What
> a zinger!)

....back to normal programming


> and once again demonstrates his ignorance about his own
> native language.

You know twin speak too (or perhaps just a Jodie Foster fan)?

> He's ineducable when it comes to the basics of
> English, but do you suppose it's time to remind him that "***" is an
> insult only on the playgrounds of elementary schools in particularly
> bacward towns?

Are now making fun of people that live in rural areas Kevin?
You are right though, we made fun of people like Greame that loved to
wiggle their pickle where is wasnt meant to be. I'm surprised you picked
up on what we were saying on the football field while you were stealing
the girls teacups and Barbies(tm) just to pass the time before afternoon
snacks. By the way, why did you always carry arouund a hampster?

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:40:47 -0600, Steve Wertz
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:48:19 -0700, Kevin S. Wilson
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I'm a regular in news.admin.net-abuse.email, too, Dank. How come you
> >>haven't followed me there? Afraid to play with the big boys?
> >
> >"<pout> My friends will kick your ass <sniff>". Talk about
> >playground talk, sheesh.
> >
> >I think I've heard this challenge 4 times in 2 days (as I was
> >catching up on my flame wars).

These gays, I mean days, flame wars are not what they used to be. It is
even more difficult with Kevin's morphing persona - he is black one day
and white the next. GOFIGAR


> >
> >ObSmoked: Egg salad and smoked gouda on fresh white bread for
> >breakfast. That's not racist, is it?
> >
> No, but I see that you're still a putz. How was jail, by the way?

NOTE TO FROUP: Why is he so quick with his pointy sticks (yes I know of
these twos past as I was netstalking Kevin in google...all the way back
to his first post requesting to be on an email list to receive porn,
probabably ***)

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:45:54 -0700, Kevin S. Wilson
> > wrote:
>
> >No, but I see that you're still a putz. How was jail, by the way?
>
> Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. Same 'ol Kevin. You forgot to call me a
> drunkard and unfaithful womanizer. Go on - you can do it...


He is too busy trying to track your IP right now so I will do it as his
proxy. You drunkard and unfaithful womanizer

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:25:54 -0000, "Graeme...in London"
> wrote:

>Oh well, perhaps in time he might learn how to insult a Scotsman.

What's so difficult about that, Englishman?