I have an older Weber Genesis Silver B gas grill with what I'm told is
a "quick connect" connector. I was having no problems getting my tank
refilled until I moved and started exchanging tanks at a local Blue
Rhino dealer, the only game in town.

These guys have to wrench some sort of adapter onto the tank, with some
difficulty every time. What' s the deal? Are Blue Rhino tanks
incompatible with Webers? Is there some adapter I should be connecting
to my grill, rather than my tank?? Should I be replacing parts on my
Weber??? I just want this to be an easier process.

I don't know what kind of tank valve and fitting you have, but from the
Blue Rhino website, they show what they have and it's just a standard
BBQ tank which can use the new style fitting, but they still can accept
the old style fitting too.
http://www.bluerhino.com/br/TankExch...ete/index.html

I don't have a Blue Rhino tank, but I have the same type with OPD. I
can use my BBQ which has the big plastic female connector and I can use
my lobster cooker which has the old style male reverse thread fitting.

That's not the answer to all the questions you had, but there's a start.

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I have an older Weber Genesis Silver B gas grill with what I'm told is
a "quick connect" connector. I was having no problems getting my tank
refilled until I moved and started exchanging tanks at a local Blue
Rhino dealer, the only game in town.

These guys have to wrench some sort of adapter onto the tank, with some
difficulty every time. What' s the deal? Are Blue Rhino tanks
incompatible with Webers? Is there some adapter I should be connecting
to my grill, rather than my tank?? Should I be replacing parts on my
Weber??? I just want this to be an easier process.


For a a while, Weber grills were using the quick disconnect valve.

Blue Rhino is a tank exchange program. They most likely are not going to
have another quick disconnect tank to give you in exchange at a Blue Rhino
dealer.

If you feel comfortable, consider purchasing a QCC1 type fitting to replace
the quick disconnect fitting on your regulator.

http://www.marshallbrass.com/outdoor.htm

If you do not feel comfotable doing this yourself, consult a certified gas
repairman.

I am not sure what the Blue Rhino guys are "wrenching" onto the tank. The
only thing I can possibly imagine would be a Hanson Quick disconnect
adapter.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...36959?v=glance

If that is the case, these adapters were designed to be installed into a
tank with "left-hand inside threads" only once, and not be removed.

Good luck, and be safe.

Adam T.

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local Blue
Rhino dealer, the only game in town.

These guys have to wrench some sort of adapter onto the tank, with some
difficulty every time. What' s the deal? Are Blue Rhino tanks
incompatible with Webers? Is there some adapter I should be connecting
to my grill, rather than my tank?? Should I be replacing parts on my
Weber??? I just want this to be an easier process.


I've heard many stories of incompatibility with Blue Rhino. They want to
lock you in to something only they can fill and get big bucks for. You must
live in a very small town. We have a population of less than 10k and have
three independent dealers and I pass probably a half dozen on the way to
work. Look around for a better deal. FWIW, I just filled a couple of tanks
at BJ's (a short ride) and paid $8.99. The BR exchange is about 10 bucks
more.

Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.

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Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.


What town would that be?

On 18-Sep-2005, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:

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local Blue
Rhino dealer, the only game in town.

These guys have to wrench some sort of adapter onto the tank, with some
difficulty every time. What' s the deal? Are Blue Rhino tanks
incompatible with Webers? Is there some adapter I should be connecting
to my grill, rather than my tank?? Should I be replacing parts on my
Weber??? I just want this to be an easier process.


I've heard many stories of incompatibility with Blue Rhino. They want to
lock you in to something only they can fill and get big bucks for. You must
live in a very small town. We have a population of less than 10k and have
three independent dealers and I pass probably a half dozen on the way to
work. Look around for a better deal. FWIW, I just filled a couple of tanks
at BJ's (a short ride) and paid $8.99. The BR exchange is about 10 bucks
more.

Consider that's about $1.80/gal. Good deal. I have several nearby choices, but
the only one I've priced is Ace Hardware. They're asking $14 and change.

--
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wrote:
Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.

Well... knowing the town may help. I find it hard to believe that there
are no other propane suppliers in the area. A *lot* of people still heat
and cook with propane and their tanks have to be filled.

--
Steve

Never read the fine print. There ain't no way you're going to like it.

I had the same prob. Called Weber they sent me a new hose and connector
for the the new tanks.


wrote:
I have an older Weber Genesis Silver B gas grill with what I'm told is
a "quick connect" connector. I was having no problems getting my tank
refilled until I moved and started exchanging tanks at a local Blue
Rhino dealer, the only game in town.

These guys have to wrench some sort of adapter onto the tank, with some
difficulty every time. What' s the deal? Are Blue Rhino tanks
incompatible with Webers? Is there some adapter I should be connecting
to my grill, rather than my tank?? Should I be replacing parts on my
Weber??? I just want this to be an easier process.

Steve Calvin wrote:
wrote:

Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.

Well... knowing the town may help. I find it hard to believe that there
are no other propane suppliers in the area. A *lot* of people still heat
and cook with propane and their tanks have to be filled.

Here in Emporia, KS, the lone propane supplier for the big tanks quit
doing grill tanks when the valve changes went into effect. Now it's
Blue Rhino, at Walmart or one of 3 locally-owned grocery stores, to get
propane for the grill.

Beth

--
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you
nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

Beth Cole wrote:
Steve Calvin wrote:

wrote:

Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.

Well... knowing the town may help. I find it hard to believe that
there are no other propane suppliers in the area. A *lot* of people
still heat and cook with propane and their tanks have to be filled.


Here in Emporia, KS, the lone propane supplier for the big tanks quit
doing grill tanks when the valve changes went into effect. Now it's
Blue Rhino, at Walmart or one of 3 locally-owned grocery stores, to get
propane for the grill.

Beth

WOW, I'm surprised. But you otta know. Our Agway, Hertz, rental centers,
and propane suppliers in the area all fill tanks with OPD's on 'em.

Well, ya learn something new every day I guess.

--
Steve

Never read the fine print. There ain't no way you're going to like it.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Welll, you'll have to come to my town and hunt me up a new supplier.
Otherwise I'm stuck with the local garden center.


Many of the U-Haul rental places refill.

Larry T

Steve Calvin wrote:

Beth Cole wrote:

Here in Emporia, KS, the lone propane supplier for the big tanks quit
doing grill tanks when the valve changes went into effect. Now it's
Blue Rhino, at Walmart or one of 3 locally-owned grocery stores, to
get propane for the grill.
WOW, I'm surprised. But you otta know. Our Agway, Hertz, rental centers,
and propane suppliers in the area all fill tanks with OPD's on 'em.

Well, ya learn something new every day I guess.

When I talked with the guys at the propane supplier (where we bought gas
for several years before buying our charcoal fired smoker) after we
bought our gas grill this spring, they said it was because the changes
to their equipment for refilling were prohibitively expensive for the
amount of business they were doing in the small canister refill market.
If you're only filling 1 to 2 bottles a week, you can't justify what
was for them a somewhat pricey changeover.

Beth

--
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you
nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

Beth Cole wrote:
Steve Calvin wrote:

Beth Cole wrote:

Here in Emporia, KS, the lone propane supplier for the big tanks quit
doing grill tanks when the valve changes went into effect. Now it's
Blue Rhino, at Walmart or one of 3 locally-owned grocery stores, to
get propane for the grill.

WOW, I'm surprised. But you otta know. Our Agway, Hertz, rental
centers, and propane suppliers in the area all fill tanks with OPD's
on 'em.

Well, ya learn something new every day I guess.


When I talked with the guys at the propane supplier (where we bought gas
for several years before buying our charcoal fired smoker) after we
bought our gas grill this spring, they said it was because the changes
to their equipment for refilling were prohibitively expensive for the
amount of business they were doing in the small canister refill market.
If you're only filling 1 to 2 bottles a week, you can't justify what
was for them a somewhat pricey changeover.

Someone who knows the real facts can jump in and correct me, but looking
at the equipment used to refill my tanks there was no change. All of the
OPD tanks have standard POL connections inside the valve body. They have
to or older appliances would fail to work. Since the filler mechanism is
POL, it would stand to reason that the filling equipment didn't have to
change.

Of course, if they didn't have scales to weigh the tanks while filling,
they weren't being very safe before the change.

I think they were looking for an excuse for getting out of the business
of filling small tanks. The OPD change over must have looked like one to
them.

--
Matthew

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of
people" -- Alexander Bullock ("My Man Godfrey" 1936)

Here's the response I got from Weber. Looks like I should either get a
hose or let the tank dealer change the adapter each time.

OTOH, if I could find these adapters for $5 I'd just treat them as
disposable!!

You may:
--Continue to use a quick disconnect connection by purchasing a quick
disconnect tank equipped with OPD.
--Purchase an adapter that will convert a QCC1 tank (threaded style
tank) into a quick disconnect tank to be used with an existing QD hose
and regulator. Please note: the adapter is a permanent, one-time
installation. If you use a tank exchange service, you will no longer
have the adapter.
--Update the hose and regulator on your grill to a QCC1 connection,
thus allowing you to utilize the more commonly available QCC1 tanks.
Unlike generic QCC1 hoses found locally, the hose that fits your Weber
grill has a threaded male connection that screws into the brass elbow
on your manifold.

Any of the above options are available by ordering directly from us.

Part Numbers/ Pricing
62565 QCC1 hose and regulator $29.99
63500 Gas Mate II adapter (convert QCC1 tank to quick disconnect)
$17.00
21290 20 lb. tank with quick disconnect $50.00
62552, 20 lb. tank with QCC1 connection $40.00
(QCC1 tanks are readily available through your local retailers and the
cost may be less)