I was outside cleaning out my WSM this morning (with a big fire) and as
thoughts of a WSM&M (double decker WSM) went through my mind, I began to
wonder what you did with the world famous ECBX2 since you got the K's.


TFM®

TFM® wrote:

I was outside cleaning out my WSM this morning (with a big fire) and as
thoughts of a WSM&M (double decker WSM) went through my mind, I began to
wonder what you did with the world famous ECBX2 since you got the K's.


The WSM has taken up residence at our lake house (read: wooden tent)
with the ECBX2. I did short ribs with hickory on the WSM and chicken
pieces with pecan on the ECBX2 just last weekend. I use gas exclusively
on the ECBX2 now. I've gotten accustomed to low maintenance cookers and
I get to spend extra time with my granddaughter.

There exists, somewhere, a web page describing a WSMX2. It's not as
natural as the ECBX2, but if you add the hanging grills as I did on the
ECBX2, you could get a hell of a lot of meat on one. I can do 17 whole
chickens on an ECBX2. I'd guess you could do at least 24 on a WSMX2.

But you still couldn't lay a rack of spares flat.

Matthew

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

TFM® wrote:

I was outside cleaning out my WSM this morning (with a big fire) and as
thoughts of a WSM&M (double decker WSM) went through my mind, I began to
wonder what you did with the world famous ECBX2 since you got the K's.


The WSM has taken up residence at our lake house (read: wooden tent)
with the ECBX2. I did short ribs with hickory on the WSM and chicken
pieces with pecan on the ECBX2 just last weekend. I use gas exclusively
on the ECBX2 now. I've gotten accustomed to low maintenance cookers and
I get to spend extra time with my granddaughter.

There exists, somewhere, a web page describing a WSMX2.

Following up my own post

http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/capacity_photos/ufreak1.jpg

You have to make a gasket to stack two WSM bodies. I'd bet the parts
cost of the second body would be close to the Amazon price on a second WSM.

Matthew

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"Matthew L. Martin" wrote:

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

TFM® wrote:

I was outside cleaning out my WSM this morning (with a big fire) and as
thoughts of a WSM&M (double decker WSM) went through my mind, I began to
wonder what you did with the world famous ECBX2 since you got the K's.


The WSM has taken up residence at our lake house (read: wooden tent)
with the ECBX2. I did short ribs with hickory on the WSM and chicken
pieces with pecan on the ECBX2 just last weekend. I use gas exclusively
on the ECBX2 now. I've gotten accustomed to low maintenance cookers and
I get to spend extra time with my granddaughter.

There exists, somewhere, a web page describing a WSMX2.

Following up my own post

http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/capacity_photos/ufreak1.jpg

You have to make a gasket to stack two WSM bodies. I'd bet the parts
cost of the second body would be close to the Amazon price on a second WSM.

Matthew

Just out of curiosity, Matthew, I was wondering what was the highest
temp you are able to attain in your ECB with that Sunbeam firepan. Can
it run any hotter than a regular ECB?

--
Stan Marks

A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

Stan Marks wrote:


Just out of curiosity, Matthew, I was wondering what was the highest
temp you are able to attain in your ECB with that Sunbeam firepan. Can
it run any hotter than a regular ECB?


Without a doubt, the sunbeam fire pot runs hotter and holds more
charcoal than the standard ECB charcoal bowl. I know that I do have to
crank down on the vents to keep the temps in my preferred smoking range
(250-300). I would guess that it would be able to get over 400 degrees
without water in the pan. That means you could roast in it, but I don't
think that it would do that well as a grill.

--
Matthew

I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion, I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

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"Matthew L. Martin" wrote:

Stan Marks wrote:


Just out of curiosity, Matthew, I was wondering what was the highest
temp you are able to attain in your ECB with that Sunbeam firepan. Can
it run any hotter than a regular ECB?


Without a doubt, the sunbeam fire pot runs hotter and holds more
charcoal than the standard ECB charcoal bowl. I know that I do have to
crank down on the vents to keep the temps in my preferred smoking range
(250-300). I would guess that it would be able to get over 400 degrees
without water in the pan. That means you could roast in it, but I don't
think that it would do that well as a grill.

In that case, have you found it difficult to keep the temps *down* when
barbecuing? Seems like the higher temps possible with it might be good
for smoking, say, chicken, but if it doesn't also keep the temps down,
it would be problematic for smoking most other meats.

--
Stan Marks

A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

Stan Marks wrote:
In article ,
"Matthew L. Martin" wrote:


Stan Marks wrote:


Just out of curiosity, Matthew, I was wondering what was the highest
temp you are able to attain in your ECB with that Sunbeam firepan. Can
it run any hotter than a regular ECB?


Without a doubt, the sunbeam fire pot runs hotter and holds more
charcoal than the standard ECB charcoal bowl. I know that I do have to
crank down on the vents to keep the temps in my preferred smoking range
(250-300). I would guess that it would be able to get over 400 degrees
without water in the pan. That means you could roast in it, but I don't
think that it would do that well as a grill.


In that case, have you found it difficult to keep the temps *down* when
barbecuing? Seems like the higher temps possible with it might be good
for smoking, say, chicken, but if it doesn't also keep the temps down,
it would be problematic for smoking most other meats.


Not really. I have had extended burns (9-10 hours) on a single load of
charcoal in the Sunbeam fire pot that held very steady. I don't sweat 25
degree swings. IIRC, I would check the temp every hour or so and make an
adjustment two or three times after the temp stabilized. I've done
shorter burns at lower temperatures (200-225) to smoke fish.

If anything, I think that the ECBX2 is more stable with charcoal than
gas. When using gas, there is a fixed BTU output. A breeze will cool a
gas powered ECBX2 burn more than a charcoal burn because the increased
air movement increases the BTU output of the charcoal.

--
Matthew

I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion, I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

In article ,
"Matthew L. Martin" wrote:

Stan Marks wrote:
In article ,
"Matthew L. Martin" wrote:


Stan Marks wrote:


Just out of curiosity, Matthew, I was wondering what was the highest
temp you are able to attain in your ECB with that Sunbeam firepan. Can
it run any hotter than a regular ECB?


Without a doubt, the sunbeam fire pot runs hotter and holds more
charcoal than the standard ECB charcoal bowl. I know that I do have to
crank down on the vents to keep the temps in my preferred smoking range
(250-300). I would guess that it would be able to get over 400 degrees
without water in the pan. That means you could roast in it, but I don't
think that it would do that well as a grill.


In that case, have you found it difficult to keep the temps *down* when
barbecuing? Seems like the higher temps possible with it might be good
for smoking, say, chicken, but if it doesn't also keep the temps down,
it would be problematic for smoking most other meats.


Not really. I have had extended burns (9-10 hours) on a single load of
charcoal in the Sunbeam fire pot that held very steady. I don't sweat 25
degree swings. IIRC, I would check the temp every hour or so and make an
adjustment two or three times after the temp stabilized. I've done
shorter burns at lower temperatures (200-225) to smoke fish.

If anything, I think that the ECBX2 is more stable with charcoal than
gas. When using gas, there is a fixed BTU output. A breeze will cool a
gas powered ECBX2 burn more than a charcoal burn because the increased
air movement increases the BTU output of the charcoal.

Thanks, Matthew...I've noticed that one of our local Wal Marts carries
those Sunbeam grills, and I've been debating getting one just to try the
firepan on my ECB. I've been able to get up to about 5 hours of
consistent 225-250 degrees, but I would like to be able to get
consistent temps at 300-350 for chicken, so it sounds like the Sunbeam
mod might be just the ticket.

--
Stan Marks

A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

Stan Marks wrote:


Thanks, Matthew...I've noticed that one of our local Wal Marts carries
those Sunbeam grills, and I've been debating getting one just to try the
firepan on my ECB. I've been able to get up to about 5 hours of
consistent 225-250 degrees, but I would like to be able to get
consistent temps at 300-350 for chicken, so it sounds like the Sunbeam
mod might be just the ticket.


There is another modification that makes using the Sunbeam easier. It
allows you to assemble the Sunbeam as intended (the way I did it
originally was far too wibbly for my tastes).

Get six 3/4" EMT clamps and cut three lengths of 3/4" EMT to replace the
factory legs. Make the new legs long enough so that the top of the
Sunbeam would be at the same relative position as the factory charcoal
bowl when the cooker is placed over it.

Use the existing leg mounting holes to fasten the EMT clamps and the
legs to the body. Adjust the leg length as described above.

Drill a 1/4" hole through each leg and the ECB body (put a 2x4 inside
the body to keep the pressure of drilling from distorting the shape of
the body, I hung the body from a 2x4 that was supported by two saw
horses). Put a 1/4" x 1 1/4" bolt though each hole. Apply a washer and
lock washer on the inside and tighten.

When you are done, your cooker will be a bit taller, but I don't find
that I have any stability problems with two stacked bodies.

If you shop carefully, you should be able to find a turkey fryer with a
burner that is about the same height and diameter as the sunbeam. This
is the primary heat source I use for the ECBX2 now. I have a 10" disk of
stainless steel (14-16 guage) that I place over the flame to hold the
wood. Cast iron would do as well, but I got the SS for free and first.

Have fun.

--
Matthew

I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion, I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?