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Hi,
I got hold some pretty perfect ribeye steaks I am going to do this weekend. I would like to get the "steakhouse flavor" more than the "smokehouse" and wondering if I should use my Brinkman Smoke n Grill or my good 'ol traditional gas grill. I have never used the smoker for ribeye's, and do not even know if it's worth the trouble since the smoke flavor isn't what I value the most in this cut of meat. I have tried dry rubs and marinades for ribeyes, but never gotten the 100 % perfect seasoned/grilled taste I have experienced at some top notched steak houses. Anyone here have some advice that could put me one step closer to perfection this time? -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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On 1-Jul-2005, ceed ceed@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqr stuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com wrote: Hi, I got hold some pretty perfect ribeye steaks I am going to do this weekend. I would like to get the "steakhouse flavor" more than the "smokehouse" and wondering if I should use my Brinkman Smoke n Grill or my good 'ol traditional gas grill. I have never used the smoker for ribeye's, and do not even know if it's worth the trouble since the smoke flavor isn't what I value the most in this cut of meat. I have tried dry rubs and marinades for ribeyes, but never gotten the 100 % perfect seasoned/grilled taste I have experienced at some top notched steak houses. Anyone here have some advice that could put me one step closer to perfection this time? -- //ceed ©¿©¬ You're scaring me Dude. There's only one formula for Rib Eye steaks. Very hot fire. Fast on the handling. Put them on direct high heat. Standby. I wouldn't move them, but if you just have to have diamond grill marks, rotate them at about 2 minutes. Feel of them in the center preferably with you finger. As soon as they change from pure spongy to some resistance, turn them over. Immediately check the resiliance as soon as you turn them over. Check them again at one minute. If that resiliance has changed, ask yourself if there is any spongy feel to it. If so leave it another 30 seconds. If not, get if off of there. If you demand to have a certain color, you're condemned to killing the steak. High heat means you can't hold your bare had at grill level for more then about two (TWO) seconds. (500° to 600°) -- The Brick® said that (Work harder; millions on welfare depend on you. ) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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ceed wrote:
Hi, I got hold some pretty perfect ribeye steaks I am going to do this weekend. I would like to get the "steakhouse flavor" more than the "smokehouse" and wondering if I should use my Brinkman Smoke n Grill or my good 'ol traditional gas grill. I have never used the smoker for ribeye's, and do not even know if it's worth the trouble since the smoke flavor isn't what I value the most in this cut of meat. I have tried dry rubs and marinades for ribeyes, but never gotten the 100 % perfect seasoned/grilled taste I have experienced at some top notched steak houses. Anyone here have some advice that could put me one step closer to perfection this time? -- //ceed ©¿©¬ The steakhouses are running ceramic infrared gas burners that get up to 1600+ degrees. Short of putting a forced air blower on your Smokey Joe, you aren't going to get that hot. TEC Cherokee, Solaire GoAnywhere, and Napoleon all make IR gas grills but they're spendy. I'm about to drop $400 on a small portable one. JD |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:28:42 -0500, JD wrote:
The steakhouses are running ceramic infrared gas burners that get up to 1600+ degrees. Short of putting a forced air blower on your Smokey Joe, you aren't going to get that hot. TEC Cherokee, Solaire GoAnywhere, and Napoleon all make IR gas grills but they're spendy. I'm about to drop $400 on a small portable one. JD Ah! So this is a matter of temperature. You and Brick both pointed that out quite clearly. There's not way I will get the Brinkman hot enough, so that's not a ribeye tool. I guess I will try to get my gas grill as hot as possible before I plop 'em on there and follow you guys advice from there on. Thanks! -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:28:42 -0500, JD wrote:
\ I'm about to drop $400 on a small portable one. JD Wnat about this one? It's under $300? http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/stainsteelpo.html -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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ceed wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:28:42 -0500, JD wrote: \ I'm about to drop $400 on a small portable one. JD Wnat about this one? It's under $300? http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/stainsteelpo.html That'll work. I may get that instead of the Napoleon. JD |
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:48:14 -0500, JD wrote:
That'll work. I may get that instead of the Napoleon. Been poking a little more (since I now want one of these), and found one even cheaper with basically the same specs: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...V2RG9&v=glance This one is only $170 -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:43:46 -0500, ceed
ceed@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqr stuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com wrote: On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:28:42 -0500, JD wrote: The steakhouses are running ceramic infrared gas burners that get up to 1600+ degrees. Short of putting a forced air blower on your Smokey Joe, you aren't going to get that hot. TEC Cherokee, Solaire GoAnywhere, and Napoleon all make IR gas grills but they're spendy. I'm about to drop $400 on a small portable one. JD Ah! So this is a matter of temperature. You and Brick both pointed that out quite clearly. There's not way I will get the Brinkman hot enough, so that's not a ribeye tool. I guess I will try to get my gas grill as hot as possible before I plop 'em on there and follow you guys advice from there on. Thanks! What he said. Just had a ribeye feast last night for visiting in-laws (mother in law, sister & brother inlaw and their two kids) - nIne 1" thick ribeyes cooked on my Kamado at about 750°.. Sear....turn 90° fir grill marks, Turn....grill 'till correct doneness...remove from grill...serve...YUM! I did have to explain to my nephew that I could not in good conscience cook his ribeye WELL-DONE (It's a GRILL, not a CREMATORY), but that the most I would cook it to would be MEDIUM, and if he didn't like it I'd make him a hamburger.. He liked it fine. ;-) -Chef Juke "EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!" www.chefjuke.com |
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In article op.ss9lrgd621xk10@dellbob,
ceed ceed@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqr stuvwxyzabcdefghijk.c om wrote: Hi, I got hold some pretty perfect ribeye steaks I am going to do this weekend. I would like to get the "steakhouse flavor" more than the "smokehouse" and wondering if I should use my Brinkman Smoke n Grill or my good 'ol traditional gas grill. I have never used the smoker for ribeye's, and do not even know if it's worth the trouble since the smoke flavor isn't what I value the most in this cut of meat. I have tried dry rubs and marinades for ribeyes, but never gotten the 100 % perfect seasoned/grilled taste I have experienced at some top notched steak houses. Anyone here have some advice that could put me one step closer to perfection this time? Ceed, I do steaks on my ECB all the time. I love the flavor of charcoal-grilled meat! I use lump charcoal (Royal Oak), which burns pretty hot, but I also put a layer of hickory chunks on top of the charcoal and let 'em burn down to coals. That makes the fire even hotter. Of course, I put the firepan on the top grill brackets with the grill on top of it to get the maximum heat. -- Stan Marks A waist is a terrible thing to mind. |
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Chef Juke wrote:
I did have to explain to my nephew that I could not in good conscience cook his ribeye WELL-DONE (It's a GRILL, not a CREMATORY), but that the most I would cook it to would be MEDIUM, and if he didn't like it I'd make him a hamburger.. He liked it fine. ;-) Heh. I encounter the same sort of thing from time-to-time, someone asks for their steak well-done. I'll tacitly cook it to medium; if they complain (and it's only happened once), I'll gently nuke it in the microwave oven to remove the offensive pink and make a mental note to offer them a hamburger next time, if they're invited back. Actually, of the handful of times I can remember someone asking for well-done, with the one exception above, the recipient has always told me it's the best steak they've ever had. Perhaps they only *think* they like steaks well-done... As an aside... Strictly speaking, when I'm cooking for friends/family, I need to enjoy doing it; I take a lot of pride in people enjoying what I cook and I'm happy to accomodate most requests. If it's not fun, I don't want to do it, and people that aren't fun to cook for are low on my list of people to invite again. It's not like I'm running a restaurant. ;-) Dana |
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"Dana H. Myers" wrote in message Perhaps they only *think* they like steaks well-done... Many have never tried anything else and neither did thier parents adn grandparents. I was brought up with well done meat also and it took a long time to learn the right way to eat it. As an aside... If it's not fun, I don't want to do it, and people that aren't fun to cook for are low on my list of people to invite again. It's not like I'm running a restaurant. It must be fun. That is why I don't have a restaurant. I like my work and I like my hobby, so don't ask me to make my hobby work. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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Dana H. Myers wrote:
Heh. I encounter the same sort of thing from time-to-time, someone asks for their steak well-done. I'll tacitly cook it to medium; if they complain (and it's only happened once), I'll gently nuke it in the microwave oven to remove the offensive pink and make a mental note to offer them a hamburger next time, if they're invited back. I'm of a differin opinion on this. I want my invited guests to enjoy their steak like they like it. While I can't personally see how a steak charred to the point of bein shoe leather would be enjoyable, I will cook em that way if my guest asks me. I want them to enjoy their visit in my home; not get ****y over how the steak THEY plan to eat is cooked. -- -frohe Life is too short to be in a hurry |
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frohe wrote:
Dana H. Myers wrote: Heh. I encounter the same sort of thing from time-to-time, someone asks for their steak well-done. I'll tacitly cook it to medium; if they complain (and it's only happened once), I'll gently nuke it in the microwave oven to remove the offensive pink and make a mental note to offer them a hamburger next time, if they're invited back. I'm of a differin opinion on this. I want my invited guests to enjoy their steak like they like it. While I can't personally see how a steak charred to the point of bein shoe leather would be enjoyable, I will cook em that way if my guest asks me. I want them to enjoy their visit in my home; not get ****y over how the steak THEY plan to eat is cooked. Not sure we're _really_ differing in opinion here. I want my guests to enjoy their steak and, with one exception, the feedback has always been "Wow! That's the best steak I've ever had!" when I translate "well-done" to "medium". Dana |
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