Well first off thanks in part to this group I have been cooking and eating
some of the best steaks ever.
I have been using a small Webber charcoal grill - having been a gas grill
guy all my life all I can say is OMG it is great.
So I am now in the market for something around $200 - I know its not much
. I would like adjustable grates if possible and easy to remove
coal dust. I will be doing mostly grilling and hardly any BBQ if at all but
would like that option if it wont take away from
the grilling. Maybe I should stick with a grill for now and later get a
smoker or something..
easy to clean
able to use indirect heat
and adjustable grates would be great.

thank you
Tom

Thomas Muffaletto wrote:
Well first off thanks in part to this group I have been cooking and eating
some of the best steaks ever.
I have been using a small Webber charcoal grill - having been a gas grill
guy all my life all I can say is OMG it is great.
So I am now in the market for something around $200 - I know its not much
. I would like adjustable grates if possible and easy to remove
coal dust. I will be doing mostly grilling and hardly any BBQ if at all but
would like that option if it wont take away from
the grilling. Maybe I should stick with a grill for now and later get a
smoker or something..
easy to clean
able to use indirect heat
and adjustable grates would be great.

thank you
Tom

I'm new to this, as well. I recently purchased the Char-Griller
Super-Pro, and love it. The main unit was just $94 at Lowe's, and the
side fire box was $50. It will give you the options you're looking for,
at a price well under your budget.

Jim

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:52:06 GMT, "Thomas Muffaletto"
wrote:


Well first off thanks in part to this group I have been cooking and eating
some of the best steaks ever.
I have been using a small Webber charcoal grill - having been a gas grill
guy all my life all I can say is OMG it is great.
So I am now in the market for something around $200 - I know its not much
. I would like adjustable grates if possible and easy to remove
coal dust. I will be doing mostly grilling and hardly any BBQ if at all but
would like that option if it wont take away from
the grilling. Maybe I should stick with a grill for now and later get a
smoker or something..
easy to clean
able to use indirect heat
and adjustable grates would be great.

thank you
Tom



If you are near a Sam's Club check out the Brinkmann Dual Zone
Charcoal Grill. I bought one several months ago and really love it.
Dual Zone means that there are two sides. You can use both sides at
different temps or take out the divider and use the entire grill. You
can also use one side only and possibly use the other side for 'keep
warm'. Each side has a seperate thermometer. The charcoal grates
are adjustable with outside cranks. The charcoal ash tray is easy to
remove and replace.

Having used a Weber Kettle for years I was concerned about indirect
heat also. What I did was pick up a small cast iron 'junk' skillet at
a garage sale. I put it in the middle of the charcoal grate and put
the charcoal around it. You can also have your coals on one side (or
zone) and the food on the other for indirect cooking. For this I use
an oven stone on the food side to help even the heat. You would just
remove the divider between the sides to do this way.

As for BBQ, I am keeping my old offset. You can control the temp on
the dual zone OK, but the fuel consumption would be prohibitive if you
have to buy your charcoal or wood.

Just my observations, your mileage may vary.

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Thomas Muffaletto wrote:
Well first off thanks in part to this group I have been cooking and
eating
some of the best steaks ever.
I have been using a small Webber charcoal grill - having been a gas grill
guy all my life all I can say is OMG it is great.
So I am now in the market for something around $200 - I know its not much
. I would like adjustable grates if possible and easy to remove
coal dust. I will be doing mostly grilling and hardly any BBQ if at all
but
would like that option if it wont take away from
the grilling. Maybe I should stick with a grill for now and later get a
smoker or something..
easy to clean
able to use indirect heat
and adjustable grates would be great.

thank you
Tom

I'm new to this, as well. I recently purchased the Char-Griller
Super-Pro, and love it. The main unit was just $94 at Lowe's, and the
side fire box was $50. It will give you the options you're looking for,
at a price well under your budget.

Jim

That looks like a fantastic deal. looks almost the like the same thing to
my newbie eyes.
to tell you the truth I was going to get the 21 1/2 inch 1 touch gold from
Webber but
was afraid of the large amount of coals that would be needed if I just
wanted to grill a steak
and a few veggies for my wife and I. --- not sure if I am right about that.
but I also like the idea of an attached cover. I wonder if the char-griller
is as good as the char-broil.
thank you for the input this one for now looks like #1
Tom

"Larry" wrote in message
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If you are near a Sam's Club check out the Brinkmann Dual Zone
Charcoal Grill. I bought one several months ago and really love it.
Dual Zone means that there are two sides. You can use both sides at
different temps or take out the divider and use the entire grill. You
can also use one side only and possibly use the other side for 'keep
warm'. Each side has a seperate thermometer. The charcoal grates
are adjustable with outside cranks. The charcoal ash tray is easy to
remove and replace.

Having used a Weber Kettle for years I was concerned about indirect
heat also. What I did was pick up a small cast iron 'junk' skillet at
a garage sale. I put it in the middle of the charcoal grate and put
the charcoal around it. You can also have your coals on one side (or
zone) and the food on the other for indirect cooking. For this I use
an oven stone on the food side to help even the heat. You would just
remove the divider between the sides to do this way.

As for BBQ, I am keeping my old offset. You can control the temp on
the dual zone OK, but the fuel consumption would be prohibitive if you
have to buy your charcoal or wood.

Just my observations, your mileage may vary.

Than you for the post.
I couldn't find any pictures of details about the Brinkmann Dual Zone
but sounds great. I did fall in love with the Char-broil 940x and probably
might get the smaller one. this is if it is worth the extra money over the
char-grill
with what seems to have the same features. but I would also love the choice
of once and a while on the week end to do real BBQ.
I love the rotisserie option.
Tom
o and thanks for the great ideas.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:01:12 GMT, "Thomas Muffaletto"
wrote:


Than you for the post.
I couldn't find any pictures of details about the Brinkmann Dual Zone
but sounds great. I did fall in love with the Char-broil 940x and probably
might get the smaller one. this is if it is worth the extra money over the
char-grill
with what seems to have the same features. but I would also love the choice
of once and a while on the week end to do real BBQ.
I love the rotisserie option.
Tom
o and thanks for the great ideas.



Try
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...1793 206&rd=1
.. it is UK Ebay lisitingfor the Brinkmann Dual=Zone but it has a
picture. Don't be alarmed at the price. Sams has these for just
under $200.00 USD

"Thomas Muffaletto" wrote in message
news:G9hxe.127$vE5.43@trndny07...

Well first off thanks in part to this group I have been cooking and eating
some of the best steaks ever.
I have been using a small Webber charcoal grill - having been a gas grill
guy all my life all I can say is OMG it is great.
So I am now in the market for something around $200 - I know its not much
. I would like adjustable grates if possible and easy to remove
coal dust. I will be doing mostly grilling and hardly any BBQ if at all
but would like that option if it wont take away from
the grilling. Maybe I should stick with a grill for now and later get a
smoker or something..
easy to clean
able to use indirect heat
and adjustable grates would be great.

I'd suggest getting a Weber kettle grill. Preferably 22". These are just
super versatile units as you can grill, bake, roast and smoke with them.
They come with a couple of firebox dividers so you can keep the coals in one
or two areas for direct heat and use the rest of the space for indirect.
they also have good ventilation control and the kettle lid means you can do
all kinds of cooking other than grilling.

I'm roasting a 7lb rib joint of beef in mine for lunch tomorrow.

"adm" wrote in message
...
I'd suggest getting a Weber kettle grill. Preferably 22". These are just
super versatile units as you can grill, bake, roast and smoke with them.
They come with a couple of firebox dividers so you can keep the coals in
one or two areas for direct heat and use the rest of the space for
indirect. they also have good ventilation control and the kettle lid means
you can do all kinds of cooking other than grilling.

I'm roasting a 7lb rib joint of beef in mine for lunch tomorrow.


I just came home with the One Touch Gold 22 1/2 inch .
uses more coal then the smaller grill - duh.
with the smaller grill I was able to get away with about half of the small
bag.
this one took the whole bag.
too tell you the truth I have no idea how I am going to set it up for the
4th.
I never cooked for a party this big before.
I have nothing except the BBQ and a large pair of tongs.
will be cooking things like lamb chops and sausage and probably
a few burgers. I don't have a sink in the back yard so wondering how I am
going to keep raw meat off my hands as much as possible.
enjoy that rib my friend - sounds tasty.
Tom

Hi Tom,
I am new to this, but I would like to share my experience. We recently
purchased the Weber Silver 22 1/2
charcoal grill. I read the instructions that came with the grill, and added
some extra charcoal briquets to my chimney. When the charcoal was ready I put
them into the Weber, and the thought that crossed my mind as I looked at how
much was there was- is that enough? It didn't look like enough. But we grilled
our Rib eye steaks and they came out great! I'm wondering, are you putting in
the amount they are suggesting or are you filling the charcoal grill?

Happy grilling


Thomas Muffaletto wrote:

"adm" wrote in message
...
I'd suggest getting a Weber kettle grill. Preferably 22". These are just
super versatile units as you can grill, bake, roast and smoke with them.
They come with a couple of firebox dividers so you can keep the coals in
one or two areas for direct heat and use the rest of the space for
indirect. they also have good ventilation control and the kettle lid means
you can do all kinds of cooking other than grilling.

I'm roasting a 7lb rib joint of beef in mine for lunch tomorrow.

I just came home with the One Touch Gold 22 1/2 inch .
uses more coal then the smaller grill - duh.
with the smaller grill I was able to get away with about half of the small
bag.
this one took the whole bag.
too tell you the truth I have no idea how I am going to set it up for the
4th.
I never cooked for a party this big before.
I have nothing except the BBQ and a large pair of tongs.
will be cooking things like lamb chops and sausage and probably
a few burgers. I don't have a sink in the back yard so wondering how I am
going to keep raw meat off my hands as much as possible.
enjoy that rib my friend - sounds tasty.
Tom

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"Craig Busch" wrote in message
...
Hi Tom,
I am new to this, but I would like to share my experience. We recently
purchased the Weber Silver 22 1/2
charcoal grill. I read the instructions that came with the grill, and
added
some extra charcoal briquets to my chimney. When the charcoal was ready I
put
them into the Weber, and the thought that crossed my mind as I looked at
how
much was there was- is that enough? It didn't look like enough. But we
grilled
our Rib eye steaks and they came out great! I'm wondering, are you
putting in
the amount they are suggesting or are you filling the charcoal grill?

Happy grilling

if I had a bigger bag I probably would have filled it with a lot more.
I took a very fast count and it looks as if the small bag is about 50
briquettes.
tomorrow I think I am going to set it up with an aluminum pan in the center
and put the coals on each side of it. use the out sides for direct heat
cooking things like
Lam chops and steak - on the inside ( indirect ) chicken and sausage.
Tom

"Thomas Muffaletto" wrote in message
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"Craig Busch" wrote in message
...
Hi Tom,
I am new to this, but I would like to share my experience. We recently
purchased the Weber Silver 22 1/2
charcoal grill. I read the instructions that came with the grill, and
added
some extra charcoal briquets to my chimney. When the charcoal was ready
I put
them into the Weber, and the thought that crossed my mind as I looked at
how
much was there was- is that enough? It didn't look like enough. But we
grilled
our Rib eye steaks and they came out great! I'm wondering, are you
putting in
the amount they are suggesting or are you filling the charcoal grill?

Happy grilling

if I had a bigger bag I probably would have filled it with a lot more.
I took a very fast count and it looks as if the small bag is about 50
briquettes.
tomorrow I think I am going to set it up with an aluminum pan in the
center
and put the coals on each side of it. use the out sides for direct heat
cooking things like
Lam chops and steak - on the inside ( indirect ) chicken and sausage.
Tom

I'd recommend putting the pan to one side and the coals to the other - it's
easier to use than with two separate small fires.

Coals at the back works well for me.

You should buy some lumpwood charcoal and a "Chimney" starter. One chimney
full of charcoal will cook most meals for you - maybe 3-4lbs.

"adm" wrote in message
...
"Craig Busch" wrote in message
...
Hi Tom,
I am new to this, but I would like to share my experience. We recently
purchased the Weber Silver 22 1/2
charcoal grill. I read the instructions that came with the grill, and
added
some extra charcoal briquets to my chimney. When the charcoal was ready
I put
them into the Weber, and the thought that crossed my mind as I looked at
how
much was there was- is that enough? It didn't look like enough. But we
grilled
our Rib eye steaks and they came out great! I'm wondering, are you
putting in
the amount they are suggesting or are you filling the charcoal grill?

Happy grilling

if I had a bigger bag I probably would have filled it with a lot more.
I took a very fast count and it looks as if the small bag is about 50
briquettes.
tomorrow I think I am going to set it up with an aluminum pan in the
center
and put the coals on each side of it. use the out sides for direct heat
cooking things like
Lam chops and steak - on the inside ( indirect ) chicken and sausage.
Tom

I'd recommend putting the pan to one side and the coals to the other -
it's easier to use than with two separate small fires.

Coals at the back works well for me.

You should buy some lumpwood charcoal and a "Chimney" starter. One chimney
full of charcoal will cook most meals for you - maybe 3-4lbs.



I was thinking about the one side thing but thought it would be better for
the indirect
if it was on both sides. I did get a disposable aluminum pan for the
center. ( I hope its strong enough)
I guess I will have to wait and see just how much of what I will be cooking.
a friend is bringing the meat
I will have to do everything else. wondering about what kind of veggies to
serve.
I have to try that lump wood and other method but for tomorrow its regular
coal.
this will be the first time I ever used coal that wasn't just light and use.
I have to use lighter fluid.. any tips on that?
thanks
Tom