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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

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Old 02-05-2005, 07:18 PM
A. Kesteloo
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Question about ribs.



Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The only
thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I smoked some
ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type, the bones where
long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short, and curved. There was
not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough so the bones would not
fall of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and smoked them for about 2 1/2
hours at 250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart with
your fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came out dry
and tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first time I
made ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the same
especially when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out



Adriaan


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Old 02-05-2005, 08:30 PM
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On Mon, 2 May 2005 20:18:57 +0200, A. Kesteloo wrote:

Question about ribs.



Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The only
thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I smoked some
ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type, the bones where
long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short, and curved. There was
not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough so the bones would not
fall of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and smoked them for about 2 1/2
hours at 250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart with
your fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came out dry
and tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first time I
made ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the same
especially when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out


Sounds like you had the temperature too high or you smoked them too long.

Brad H
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Old 02-05-2005, 09:13 PM
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"Brad Houser" wrote in message
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On Mon, 2 May 2005 20:18:57 +0200, A. Kesteloo wrote:

Question about ribs.
Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The

only
thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I smoked

some
ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type, the bones

where
long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short, and curved. There

was
not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough so the bones would not
fall of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and smoked them for about 2

1/2
hours at 250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart with
your fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came out

dry
and tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first

time I
made ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the same
especially when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out


Sounds like you had the temperature too high or you smoked them too long.


Did the flat ribbed piece look anything like these?
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ri...tos/spare2.jpg
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ri...tos/spare1.jpg

These look to have had some fat (and the bottom flap) trimmed off them.
http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_side_(belly)_cuts.htm

Here's a picture of your shorter ribs from the loin:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_loin_cuts.htm

Main site:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/hog_cut...tive_chart.htm


Hope this helps, maybe you can show your butcher these charts.

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Old 02-05-2005, 09:53 PM
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"A. Kesteloo" wrote in message
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Question about ribs.



Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The only
thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I smoked some
ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type, the bones where
long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short, and curved. There was
not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough so the bones would not fall
of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and smoked them for about 2 1/2 hours at
250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart with your
fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came out dry and
tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first time I made
ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the same especially
when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out


Please look he

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide.html

In the loin section # 3500 Back ribs

In the belly section # 3800 Spareribs.

Hope this helps,

Dimitri


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Old 03-05-2005, 09:18 AM
A. Kesteloo
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"Duwop" schreef in bericht
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"Brad Houser" wrote in message
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On Mon, 2 May 2005 20:18:57 +0200, A. Kesteloo wrote:

Question about ribs.
Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The

only
thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I smoked

some
ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type, the bones

where
long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short, and curved.
There

was
not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough so the bones would
not
fall of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and smoked them for about 2

1/2
hours at 250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart
with
your fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came
out

dry
and tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first

time I
made ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the same
especially when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out


Sounds like you had the temperature too high or you smoked them too long.


Did the flat ribbed piece look anything like these?
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ri...tos/spare2.jpg
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ri...tos/spare1.jpg

These look to have had some fat (and the bottom flap) trimmed off them.
http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_side_(belly)_cuts.htm

Here's a picture of your shorter ribs from the loin:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_loin_cuts.htm

Main site:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/hog_cut...tive_chart.htm


Hope this helps, maybe you can show your butcher these charts.

--





I think it was this one:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_side_(belly)_cuts.htm (center cut spare
ribs)


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Old 03-05-2005, 09:23 AM
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"Dimitri" schreef in bericht
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"A. Kesteloo" wrote in message
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Question about ribs.



Here in the Netherlands, we only got one name for ribs. Spareribs. The
only thing you know for sure is that it comes for a pig. Last week, I
smoked some ribs for the second time. I think I got 2 kinds. One type,
the bones where long, and flat, the other type, the bones where short,
and curved. There was not to much meat on the bones itself (just enough
so the bones would not fall of ;-) ). I gave the ribs a dry rub, and
smoked them for about 2 1/2 hours at 250 F.

The short curved ones came out good. You could take the bones apart with
your fingers. The meat was done and not dry. The long flat ones came out
dry and tough. Can anyone tell me what happened? It happened to the first
time I made ribs, so this time I made sure that I treated the meat the
same especially when it comes to temperature in the smoker.

Oh before I forget, I moped with olive oil and vinegar.



I hope you can help me out


Please look he

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide.html

In the loin section # 3500 Back ribs

In the belly section # 3800 Spareribs.

Hope this helps,

Dimitri



thank's a lot, it helps. which part of the ribs do you prefer? loin or
belly.

thanks,

Adriaan


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Old 03-05-2005, 03:02 PM
Dimitri
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"A. Kesteloo" wrote in message
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I hope you can help me out


Please look he

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide.html

In the loin section # 3500 Back ribs

In the belly section # 3800 Spareribs.

Hope this helps,

Dimitri



thank's a lot, it helps. which part of the ribs do you prefer? loin or belly.

thanks,

Adriaan



Boy that is a very tough question to answer. I think all 3 have their place.

The baby backs grill quite well and are normally meaty and tender. The belly
"spareribs" take longer to cook correctly and there is quite a bit of waste.
All things considered I like the Saint Louis cut which really the belly ribs
trimmed. Because of the price difference I usually do the trimming myself and
then use the trimmed pieces for soups and Italian gravy (spaghetti sauce).

Dimitri



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Old 03-05-2005, 03:02 PM
Dimitri
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"A. Kesteloo" wrote in message
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Snip


I hope you can help me out


Please look he

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide.html

In the loin section # 3500 Back ribs

In the belly section # 3800 Spareribs.

Hope this helps,

Dimitri



thank's a lot, it helps. which part of the ribs do you prefer? loin or belly.

thanks,

Adriaan



Boy that is a very tough question to answer. I think all 3 have their place.

The baby backs grill quite well and are normally meaty and tender. The belly
"spareribs" take longer to cook correctly and there is quite a bit of waste.
All things considered I like the Saint Louis cut which really the belly ribs
trimmed. Because of the price difference I usually do the trimming myself and
then use the trimmed pieces for soups and Italian gravy (spaghetti sauce).

Dimitri



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Old 04-05-2005, 10:18 PM
A. Kesteloo
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After sniffing the internet for a bit, I found an artikel about ribs. At
least, now I know where the different ribs come from.
http://www.ribman.com/abtribs.html
thank for all the help. for now, ill stick to ribs from the loin section

Adriaan

"Dimitri" schreef in bericht
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"A. Kesteloo" wrote in message
...

Snip


I hope you can help me out

Please look he

http://www.uspork.org/buyersguide.html

In the loin section # 3500 Back ribs

In the belly section # 3800 Spareribs.

Hope this helps,

Dimitri



thank's a lot, it helps. which part of the ribs do you prefer? loin or
belly.

thanks,

Adriaan



Boy that is a very tough question to answer. I think all 3 have their
place.

The baby backs grill quite well and are normally meaty and tender. The
belly "spareribs" take longer to cook correctly and there is quite a bit
of waste. All things considered I like the Saint Louis cut which really
the belly ribs trimmed. Because of the price difference I usually do the
trimming myself and then use the trimmed pieces for soups and Italian
gravy (spaghetti sauce).

Dimitri





 




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