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48 hr brine, too long?



 
 
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Old 23-12-2004, 02:01 AM
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Default 48 hr brine, too long?

Eddie wrote:
If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Try he
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...n%27s+brine%22


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Old 23-12-2004, 05:22 AM
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Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I do
TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1 or 2
days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I have
brine pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and sage)


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Old 23-12-2004, 02:15 PM
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"Piedmont" wrote in message
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Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I do
TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1 or 2
days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I have brine
pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and sage)


--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw


Is that 2 tbsp each of Italian seasoning or a total of 2 tbsp.



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Old 23-12-2004, 02:15 PM
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"Piedmont" wrote in message
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Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I do
TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1 or 2
days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I have brine
pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and sage)


--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw


Is that 2 tbsp each of Italian seasoning or a total of 2 tbsp.



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Old 23-12-2004, 02:17 PM
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bk wrote:
"Piedmont" wrote in message
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Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read
recommended time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I
do TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1
or 2 days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I
have brine pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and
sage)


--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw


Is that 2 tbsp each of Italian seasoning or a total of 2 tbsp.


2 Tbsp. Italian Seasoning - it already comes mixed with the herbs.

kili


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Old 24-12-2004, 02:41 PM
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On 24-Dec-2004, Eddie wrote:

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:52:44 -0000, Bubbabob
wrote:

Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.



I've done turkeys for 72 hrs and they came out fine.

Thx, nice to know I ain't gonna ruin the birds. My bad experience
happened when I marinaded chicken for, IIRC, 24 hours or so. Well,
that taught me a quick lesson. The meat came out almost mushy. I now
know brining and marinading are two different animals.
Eddie


I don't like to speculate, but IIRC, marinating is supposed to break down
tough cuts of meat. Depending on what you use for brine, it will have
varying effects on tenderness. For instance a straight salt brine would
do little to break down the texture of the meat, wheras lots of citrus
could practically dissolve it given enough time.
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Old 24-12-2004, 05:16 PM
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Eddie wrote:

If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie

Go to this link: Click on AFB Recipes Brine, it is a "text" document
that I have partially (in the construction phase) compiled of brine info
articles and recipes, all about brining. You can download and save it on
your PC if you wish.

http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...c_p=%2FRecipes


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Old 24-12-2004, 05:17 PM
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bk wrote:

"Piedmont" wrote in message
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Eddie wrote:


If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I do
TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1 or 2
days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I have brine
pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and sage)


--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw


Is that 2 tbsp each of Italian seasoning or a total of 2 tbsp.




2 tablespoon of Italian seasoning which is comprised of the,
(ingrediants)

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Old 24-12-2004, 05:17 PM
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bk wrote:

"Piedmont" wrote in message
...

Eddie wrote:


If I brine for 36 to 48 hours am I doing any harm? I read recommended
time to brine anywhere from 12 to 24 hr.
Just curious if longer is better.
Also, did Hound's brine for TG day. Thinking of doing TFM brine for
Xmas. Couldn't find it using google. Anyone have it?
Eddie
getting ready, chomping at the mouth, two in the K soon


Eddie,
It all depends on what your brining and how much salt you've used. I do
TFM turkey brine and brine for 3 days and prefer that time over 1 or 2
days, doesn't seem to get as much flavor unless I go 3 days. I have brine
pork steaks in TFM brine for 1 day and they were done.

The Fat Man's Brine

2 gallons water
1 1/4 cup pickling salt
3/4 cup brown sugar
3 tbsp. garlic powder
1 tbsp chili powder
1 tbsp ground sage
2 tbsp crushed red pepper
1 tbsb fresh black pepper
4 bay leaves
1 tbsp Old bay seasoning
1 tbsp Dave's Insanity Sauce
2 tbsp Italian seasoning (oregano, marjoram, thyme, rosemary and sage)


--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw


Is that 2 tbsp each of Italian seasoning or a total of 2 tbsp.




2 tablespoon of Italian seasoning which is comprised of the,
(ingrediants)

--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBa...ewwelcome.msnw

Secret experiments to make females obsolete gone awry!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../intersex_fish



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Old 24-12-2004, 05:25 PM
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Brick wrote:

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I don't like to speculate, but IIRC, marinating is supposed to break down
tough cuts of meat. Depending on what you use for brine, it will have
varying effects on tenderness. For instance a straight salt brine would
do little to break down the texture of the meat, wheras lots of citrus
could practically dissolve it given enough time.


Brick,
Yes, correct, marinades are to tenderize, hence high acid content or
what not to attack meat.
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