"Kent" wrote in message
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At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.


And yet again, Kent comes out with another beauty!

You sure your not a comedian?

Graeme

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:21:19 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

You know, Kent, I came this close to including a disclaimer at the
bottom of my original post, something along the lines of "PS: Yes, I
know the difference between cold-smoking and what I'm doing here. I
don't care what you want to call what I'm doing, and I care even less
to discuss it."

But I didn't include the disclaimer, thinking, "Who would be dumb
enough to trot out that tired, shopworn topic of conversation for the
18,756th time in this newsgroup?"

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:21:19 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

You know, Kent, I came this close to including a disclaimer at the
bottom of my original post, something along the lines of "PS: Yes, I
know the difference between cold-smoking and what I'm doing here. I
don't care what you want to call what I'm doing, and I care even less
to discuss it."

But I didn't include the disclaimer, thinking, "Who would be dumb
enough to trot out that tired, shopworn topic of conversation for the
18,756th time in this newsgroup?"

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:43:35 -0000, "Graeme...in London"
wrote:


"Kent" wrote in message
news:zmkwd.245261$HA.216764@attbi_s01...
At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

And yet again, Kent comes out with another beauty!

Graeme, you must be unaware of the difference between smoking and all
other methods of preparing meat for consumption. There's smoking, and
then there is cooking.

Smoking is not a form of cooking. Kent just now said so.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:43:35 -0000, "Graeme...in London"
wrote:


"Kent" wrote in message
news:zmkwd.245261$HA.216764@attbi_s01...
At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

And yet again, Kent comes out with another beauty!

Graeme, you must be unaware of the difference between smoking and all
other methods of preparing meat for consumption. There's smoking, and
then there is cooking.

Smoking is not a form of cooking. Kent just now said so.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

This part is not for you to read Kent, so skip to the next paragraph.
[Hoobaaaaa! The CALClone is baaaack. What fun we gonna have now. By
popular request, I deplonked Kent and the amusement value is well worth it.]

So....Kent? At precisely *what* temp does "smoking" become "cooking?" We
really need a number, ole buddy, a dividing line. You know, a FailSafe. A
Go/NoGo. So we'll know what to tell our friends and families when we serve
up that salmon or whatever. Smoked? Or Cooked? Wouldn't want to mislead
anybody.

"This Salmon was smoked," we'll say. "It never went above XX degrees." Or
is it XXX degrees? And suppose, just for a minute that the temp inside the
cooker went *over* the XX or XXX degree temp for just a minute or two.
Would that change the smoked/cooked definition? Truth in advertising and
all, eh?

What if the temp creeped up a little over Go/NoGo and you didn't see it
happen? Would that count? How would we know? There must be a change, a
test we could perform, right?

Enlighten us, KentH.

Jack Curry
-Curious minds want to know-

This part is not for you to read Kent, so skip to the next paragraph.
[Hoobaaaaa! The CALClone is baaaack. What fun we gonna have now. By
popular request, I deplonked Kent and the amusement value is well worth it.]

So....Kent? At precisely *what* temp does "smoking" become "cooking?" We
really need a number, ole buddy, a dividing line. You know, a FailSafe. A
Go/NoGo. So we'll know what to tell our friends and families when we serve
up that salmon or whatever. Smoked? Or Cooked? Wouldn't want to mislead
anybody.

"This Salmon was smoked," we'll say. "It never went above XX degrees." Or
is it XXX degrees? And suppose, just for a minute that the temp inside the
cooker went *over* the XX or XXX degree temp for just a minute or two.
Would that change the smoked/cooked definition? Truth in advertising and
all, eh?

What if the temp creeped up a little over Go/NoGo and you didn't see it
happen? Would that count? How would we know? There must be a change, a
test we could perform, right?

Enlighten us, KentH.

Jack Curry
-Curious minds want to know-

To all on one of Kevie's rare non vitreolic non-trolling or non-flaming
posts*. Let's all thank him for focusing the mission of this NG.
Smoking is not a form of cooking. The cooking follows the smoking everywhere
in the world except on this NG.
Fish is a bit more confusing. Cold smoked salmon and other fish are cured
and then smoked, and then eaten. BTW it's important to freeze the salmon in
advance to protect against parasitic infection when you do this. This is
also true of Gravlax, which is simply cured and eaten, without smoking. The
difference between Gravlax and Cold Smoked Salmon is only in flavor. When
you cure the salmon, or fish, as in this case, and put it in an oven or
grill or whatever at 200+ degrees you are cooking, regardless of what you
put on the fire to flavor the final product.

*Kevie has posted 3,050 NG messages in several newsgroups since January 1,
2004. 95+ percent of these are either trolling or flaming.



"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:43:35 -0000, "Graeme...in London"
wrote:


"Kent" wrote in message
news:zmkwd.245261$HA.216764@attbi_s01...
At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

And yet again, Kent comes out with another beauty!

Graeme, you must be unaware of the difference between smoking and all
other methods of preparing meat for consumption. There's smoking, and
then there is cooking.

Smoking is not a form of cooking. Kent just now said so.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J.
Furr

Very Good:
However, you are still cooking.

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:21:19 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

You know, Kent, I came this close to including a disclaimer at the
bottom of my original post, something along the lines of "PS: Yes, I
know the difference between cold-smoking and what I'm doing here. I
don't care what you want to call what I'm doing, and I care even less
to discuss it."

But I didn't include the disclaimer, thinking, "Who would be dumb
enough to trot out that tired, shopworn topic of conversation for the
18,756th time in this newsgroup?"

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J.
Furr

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:33:03 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

To all on one of Kevie's rare non vitreolic non-trolling or non-flaming
posts*. Let's all thank him for focusing the mission of this NG.

I asked you before to define the "mission of this NG." You ignored the
question. I'll ask again. What exactly is the "mission" of this NG?

Smoking is not a form of cooking.

Left in for people to chuckle over years from now.

*Kevie has posted 3,050 NG messages in several newsgroups since January 1,
2004. 95+ percent of these are either trolling or flaming.

Kent, no one here is stupid enough to believe that you read 2,897
posts of mine, which you would have had to have done to accurately
characterize 95% of my posts.

You didn't read them, so why are you pretending that you did?

PS: Stalk much, Google-boy?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:33:03 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

To all on one of Kevie's rare non vitreolic non-trolling or non-flaming
posts*. Let's all thank him for focusing the mission of this NG.

I asked you before to define the "mission of this NG." You ignored the
question. I'll ask again. What exactly is the "mission" of this NG?

Smoking is not a form of cooking.

Left in for people to chuckle over years from now.

*Kevie has posted 3,050 NG messages in several newsgroups since January 1,
2004. 95+ percent of these are either trolling or flaming.

Kent, no one here is stupid enough to believe that you read 2,897
posts of mine, which you would have had to have done to accurately
characterize 95% of my posts.

You didn't read them, so why are you pretending that you did?

PS: Stalk much, Google-boy?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

"Jack Curry" Jack wrote in message
...

"Graeme...in London" wrote in message
...
Personally, I thoroughly recommend a sprinkling of dried or fresh fennel
seeds to both salmon and trout prior to smoking. There is something
about
fennel, smoke and fish that works wonders with my palate.

Neat idea, Graeme. I love fennel seeds too, but would never have thought
to
put them on smoked salmon.

I guess it shouldn't be a surprise the Curry likes fennel.

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:21:19 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

At that temp. you're cooking the salmon, not smoking it.

You know, Kent, I came this close


Are you using a template for the above structure, looks familiar...



But I didn't include the disclaimer, thinking, "Who would be dumb
enough to trot out that tired, shopworn topic of conversation for the
18,756th time in this newsgroup?"


Well hell, you are senor semantic/ speel flamer. Who are you to be talking
Prof.

-CAL

"Kent" wrote in message
news:Jfowd.205893$V41.57804@attbi_s52...
Very Good:
However, you are still cooking.

Well he is hungry...he can't help it.

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:33:03 GMT, "Kent" wrote:

To all on one of Kevie's rare non vitreolic non-trolling or non-flaming
posts*. Let's all thank him for focusing the mission of this NG.

I asked you before to define the "mission of this NG." You ignored the
question. I'll ask again. What exactly is the "mission" of this NG?

Dual purpose mission.
1) To satisfy Kevie's insecurity
2) To talk bbq


PS: Stalk much, Google-boy?


Once again Pot calling the kettle black

-CLA (opps mispeeled it)