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Cedar Planks



 
 
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Old 08-12-2004, 09:05 PM
Tony
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Default Cedar Planks

Hi

I've been barbecuing and grilling for a year, and now I would like to give
cedar planks a try.

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,
and shipping from the States just to give it a try is going a bit over ...

So, does anybody know the scientific name of the safe cedar to use for
planking?

I just don't want to poison my friends !!

Regards,
Tony


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Old 08-12-2004, 09:31 PM
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"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi

I've been barbecuing and grilling for a year, and now I would like to give
cedar planks a try.

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,
and shipping from the States just to give it a try is going a bit over ...

So, does anybody know the scientific name of the safe cedar to use for
planking?

I just don't want to poison my friends !!

Regards,
Tony


Try This,

www.wrcla.org/

I use Western Red Cedar and I can UPS some to you for $55.00 US ouch

Ken


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Old 08-12-2004, 09:39 PM
bk
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"Tony" wrote in message
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So, does anybody know the scientific name of the safe cedar to use for

planking?

I just don't want to poison my friends !!

Regards,
Tony


That's very kind of you, Tony.


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Old 08-12-2004, 09:46 PM
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Tony wrote:

Hi

I've been barbecuing and grilling for a year, and now I would like to give
cedar planks a try.

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,
and shipping from the States just to give it a try is going a bit over ...

So, does anybody know the scientific name of the safe cedar to use for
planking?

I just don't want to poison my friends !!

Regards,
Tony




CEDRELA ODORATA (Spanish Cedar) My understanding is that you can use
any species as long as it's untreated. Don't they use a lot of Spanish
cedar to make humidors? I would think some pieces from such a place
would be about the ideal thickness.

Bubba

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You wanna measure, or you wanna cook?


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Old 09-12-2004, 02:36 AM
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:05:11 +0100, "Tony"
wrote:

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,


Business opportunity.

I haven't figured out to my satisfaction if the "raw" cedar planks
sold as fence pickets are wholly untreated, but you might want to
investigate them. My only hesistation is that they may be sprayed with
an anti-fungal agent during processing.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:29 PM
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:05:11 +0100, "Tony"
wrote:

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,


Business opportunity.

I haven't figured out to my satisfaction if the "raw" cedar planks
sold as fence pickets are wholly untreated, but you might want to
investigate them. My only hesistation is that they may be sprayed with
an anti-fungal agent during processing.


Shouldn't be because that is the reason cedar is used in the first
place. A producer trying to minimize cost will most likely be leveraging
cedar's natural antifungal properties and omitting additives. Then again
you never know.
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Old 09-12-2004, 03:51 PM
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"Bubba" wrote in message news:6AKtd.49583

CEDRELA ODORATA (Spanish Cedar) My understanding is that you can use any
species as long as it's untreated. Don't they use a lot of Spanish cedar to
make humidors? I would think some pieces from such a place would be about
the ideal thickness.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Cedar is the national tree of Lebanon. What with the Spanish cedar and
Lebanese Cedar, I bet you can find some locally.

Can you get fresh wild salmon?


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Old 09-12-2004, 03:51 PM
Duwop
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"Bubba" wrote in message news:6AKtd.49583

CEDRELA ODORATA (Spanish Cedar) My understanding is that you can use any
species as long as it's untreated. Don't they use a lot of Spanish cedar to
make humidors? I would think some pieces from such a place would be about
the ideal thickness.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Cedar is the national tree of Lebanon. What with the Spanish cedar and
Lebanese Cedar, I bet you can find some locally.

Can you get fresh wild salmon?


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Old 09-12-2004, 05:57 PM
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From my under standing is that treated cedar is not for fungus or
longevity but it is treated for UV protection to help prolong the fresh
look of cedar so it does not silver as fast. Most cedar is untreated
so to keep the cost down but your best bet is to ask if it is treated
and if they are unsure or can not give you a deffinate Yes or NO then
stay away from it.

Large cedar shims work pretty good and they are not treated and run
about $2-$4 bucks a bundle. Can be found at most lumber and home
stores.

Ted


Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:05:11 +0100, "Tony"
wrote:

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier

here,

Business opportunity.

I haven't figured out to my satisfaction if the "raw" cedar planks
sold as fence pickets are wholly untreated, but you might want to
investigate them. My only hesistation is that they may be sprayed

with
an anti-fungal agent during processing.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically


useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you."

--J. Furr

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Old 09-12-2004, 09:06 PM
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wrote:

From my under standing is that treated cedar is not for fungus or

longevity but it is treated for UV protection to help prolong the fresh
look of cedar so it does not silver as fast. Most cedar is untreated
so to keep the cost down but your best bet is to ask if it is treated
and if they are unsure or can not give you a deffinate Yes or NO then
stay away from it.

Ted

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:


I haven't figured out to my satisfaction if the "raw" cedar planks
sold as fence pickets are wholly untreated, but you might want to
investigate them. My only hesistation is that they may be sprayed

with
an anti-fungal agent during processing.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically



I'm 99.999% sure the fencing boards are not treated in anyway - they would
have to label like pressure treated wood - (regulations) and if someone
was selling treated (in any way) cedar, they would know, and you would pay
more for it. If in doubt, smell it!

Here in Oregon, I laugh at the people who will pay $14.95 (but it's smooth
on both sides, and the edges milled) for a shrink wrapped cedar plank in
the with label and instructions on how to cook with it , when a 6 foot x
6" wide, $1.59 fence board, will make 4-5 planks, which you are basically
gonna burn anyway after a few uses.

Ted is right - it's the natural aromatic oils that keeps the bugs out of
cedar. I think the reason redwood stands up to bugs is due to something
else - it isn't as aromatic as cedar, but if you get a sliver in your
finger you will know it the next morning - the body doesn't like whatever
it is (you don't need details, it will spoil your appetite) - also, while
all wood dust should be avoided, I've heard redwood is expecially nasty.


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Old 09-12-2004, 09:06 PM
Dick Wiegand
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wrote:

From my under standing is that treated cedar is not for fungus or

longevity but it is treated for UV protection to help prolong the fresh
look of cedar so it does not silver as fast. Most cedar is untreated
so to keep the cost down but your best bet is to ask if it is treated
and if they are unsure or can not give you a deffinate Yes or NO then
stay away from it.

Ted

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:


I haven't figured out to my satisfaction if the "raw" cedar planks
sold as fence pickets are wholly untreated, but you might want to
investigate them. My only hesistation is that they may be sprayed

with
an anti-fungal agent during processing.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically



I'm 99.999% sure the fencing boards are not treated in anyway - they would
have to label like pressure treated wood - (regulations) and if someone
was selling treated (in any way) cedar, they would know, and you would pay
more for it. If in doubt, smell it!

Here in Oregon, I laugh at the people who will pay $14.95 (but it's smooth
on both sides, and the edges milled) for a shrink wrapped cedar plank in
the with label and instructions on how to cook with it , when a 6 foot x
6" wide, $1.59 fence board, will make 4-5 planks, which you are basically
gonna burn anyway after a few uses.

Ted is right - it's the natural aromatic oils that keeps the bugs out of
cedar. I think the reason redwood stands up to bugs is due to something
else - it isn't as aromatic as cedar, but if you get a sliver in your
finger you will know it the next morning - the body doesn't like whatever
it is (you don't need details, it will spoil your appetite) - also, while
all wood dust should be avoided, I've heard redwood is expecially nasty.


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Old 09-12-2004, 10:14 PM
Tony
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I take it that means "Tuhja Plicata" (western red cedar).

Thanks,
Tony

"Hannan" escribió en el mensaje
news:WoKtd.2520$N%6.1979@trnddc05...
Try This,

www.wrcla.org/

I use Western Red Cedar and I can UPS some to you for $55.00 US ouch

Ken




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Old 10-12-2004, 05:01 AM
Piedmont
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Tony wrote:
Hi

I've been barbecuing and grilling for a year, and now I would like to give
cedar planks a try.

The problem is that I live in Spain, and can't find a plank supplier here,
and shipping from the States just to give it a try is going a bit over ...

So, does anybody know the scientific name of the safe cedar to use for
planking?

I just don't want to poison my friends !!

Regards,
Tony



Hey, Tony:

Yeesh! All kinds of answers, well, maybe answers to your question. Heck,
if you pay for shipping and packaging. I'll take the chainsaw out in the
backyard and slice you some planks from an old cedar that fell recently!
Do you get UPS there?

--
Mike Willsey
http://groups.msn.com/ThePracticalBarBQr/_whatsnew.msnw

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Old 10-12-2004, 01:14 PM
cl
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Piedmont wrote:
Hey, Tony:

Yeesh! All kinds of answers, well, maybe answers to your question. Heck,
if you pay for shipping and packaging. I'll take the chainsaw out in the
backyard and slice you some planks from an old cedar that fell recently!
Do you get UPS there?


It is amazing how tough cedar is on the chain. I dulled 2 chains just to
fell 3 smallish cedars.


-CAL
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Old 10-12-2004, 01:14 PM
cl
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Piedmont wrote:
Hey, Tony:

Yeesh! All kinds of answers, well, maybe answers to your question. Heck,
if you pay for shipping and packaging. I'll take the chainsaw out in the
backyard and slice you some planks from an old cedar that fell recently!
Do you get UPS there?


It is amazing how tough cedar is on the chain. I dulled 2 chains just to
fell 3 smallish cedars.


-CAL
 




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