Piedmont wrote:

Nathan Lau wrote:
snip

Instead of water, put ice cubes.

Nathan,

Something tells me that would be a negative affect. Because when I don't
pre-boil my water pan water. Its takes much longer to get up to temp.

If you want to run your cooker cooler, adjust the bottom vents to
restrict the airflow.

This is assuming you are using a WSM.

How cool do you want to run anyway?

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Piedmont wrote:

Nathan Lau wrote:
snip

Instead of water, put ice cubes.

Nathan,

Something tells me that would be a negative affect. Because when I don't
pre-boil my water pan water. Its takes much longer to get up to temp.

If you want to run your cooker cooler, adjust the bottom vents to
restrict the airflow.

This is assuming you are using a WSM.

How cool do you want to run anyway?

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Nathan Lau wrote:
snip

Instead of water, put ice cubes.


Nathan,

Something tells me that would be a negative affect. Because when I don't
pre-boil my water pan water. Its takes much longer to get up to temp.

Mike Willsey

Nathan Lau wrote:
snip

Instead of water, put ice cubes.


Nathan,

Something tells me that would be a negative affect. Because when I don't
pre-boil my water pan water. Its takes much longer to get up to temp.

Mike Willsey

Nathan Lau wrote:
snip

Instead of water, put ice cubes.


Nathan,

Something tells me that would be a negative affect. Because when I don't
pre-boil my water pan water. Its takes much longer to get up to temp.

Mike Willsey

F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:

Piedmont wrote:

I'm going to try something the next time I q and wondered if anyone
else does it way or has tried it.

Try sheilding the bottom of the water from the coals. I'm pretty sure
the water will last longer but will have to see if that by the water
being cooler, will the cooker run cooler?


Just fill it with sand, cover it with foil, and never worry about the damned
thing again.


I hear ya F.G.
I've been reading about the use of water pans and how you will not get
"that crusty skin" that is coveted by some. Will the sand regulate the
temp the same as water?

--
Mike Willsey

F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:
Piedmont wrote:
F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:

Piedmont wrote:

I'm going to try something the next time I q and wondered if anyone
else does it way or has tried it.

Try sheilding the bottom of the water from the coals. I'm pretty
sure the water will last longer but will have to see if that by the
water being cooler, will the cooker run cooler?


Just fill it with sand, cover it with foil, and never worry about
the damned thing again.


I hear ya F.G.
I've been reading about the use of water pans and how you will not
get "that crusty skin" that is coveted by some. Will the sand
regulate
the temp the same as water?

My experience is that your cooker will run a bit hotter with the
sand, and I have had to pay a bit more attention to the fire as it
wants to cook a bit hotter, but all in all its been worth it. Hell,
its been so long since cookin with water in the damned thing I cant
really remember.

Of course, TFM'll prolly be chiming in any time now to tell us we
ain't Q'ing unless we get rid of that goddamned pan altogether.g I
may give it a go next time.


How about I chime in now and tell y'all I ain't cooked withOUT the water pan
in place *and* full of water since I got the dadblamed thang?

I'm pretty confident with it now and nekkid is next (sans water pan) I
gotta admit, it is *SO* much easier with the pan in place.


TFM®

"Harry Demidavicius" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 01:29:34 GMT, "TFM®"

How about I chime in now and tell y'all I ain't cooked withOUT the water pan
in place *and* full of water since I got the dadblamed thang?

I'm pretty confident with it now and nekkid is next (sans water pan) I
gotta admit, it is *SO* much easier with the pan in place.


TFM®

Is this the same guy that used to say that unless the fire was made
from fossilized dinosaur bones and located in a hole in the ground, it
wasn't real que? How quickly they forget their roots, eh. Next thing
you know he'll wan AC in the house and stuff like that . . . .

Harry

Naw, he graduated from that a long time ago to cinder blocks, sheet metal, and
straight wood.

Kili, if he even mutters gas in his sleep, tell us and we'll come haul his ass
off for some serious intervention therapy.


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F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:

snip

My experience is that your cooker will run a bit hotter with the sand, and I
have had to pay a bit more attention to the fire as it wants to cook a bit
hotter, but all in all its been worth it. Hell, its been so long since
cookin with water in the damned thing I cant really remember.

Of course, TFM'll prolly be chiming in any time now to tell us we ain't
Q'ing unless we get rid of that goddamned pan altogether.g I may give it a
go next time.

Fos,

I gotta stand beside TFM on no pan with butts, the best butts I ever
tasted were done sans barrier betweenist coals and meat! Though I
haven't done it for too long.

--
Mike Willsey

TFM® wrote:

snip


How about I chime in now and tell y'all I ain't cooked withOUT the water pan
in place *and* full of water since I got the dadblamed thang?

I'm pretty confident with it now and nekkid is next (sans water pan) I
gotta admit, it is *SO* much easier with the pan in place.


TFM®



Hey TFM,

So you don't really notice a difference in bark with or without the
water pan?? It really is so much easier with the water pan, but the
taste goes down on butts compared to direct from my experiences.

--
Mike Willsey

Brick wrote:


Ya all might note that TFM® cooked over a turkey fryer burner
for a spell before he switched to fire IIRC. I doubt his 'Q' is a
great deal better now, but he might be having more fun cooking
it.


IIRC, TFM® even posted a picture of his turkey fryer in operation with
two jerry cans of gasoline conveniently nearby:-)

Don't knock using gas for a smoker. I've pretty much converted to using
gas only to fire the ECBX2 and it does make some excellent Q. The WSM
will not be converted to gas since using it is nearly as effortless. I
did get the gas option for my two Kamado cookers and I ordered 1500# of
charcoal to be delivered with them. I suspect that there will be times
when I only use gas on a K, but I plan on using charcoal most of the time.

Matthew

Brick wrote:


Ya all might note that TFM® cooked over a turkey fryer burner
for a spell before he switched to fire IIRC. I doubt his 'Q' is a
great deal better now, but he might be having more fun cooking
it.


IIRC, TFM® even posted a picture of his turkey fryer in operation with
two jerry cans of gasoline conveniently nearby:-)

Don't knock using gas for a smoker. I've pretty much converted to using
gas only to fire the ECBX2 and it does make some excellent Q. The WSM
will not be converted to gas since using it is nearly as effortless. I
did get the gas option for my two Kamado cookers and I ordered 1500# of
charcoal to be delivered with them. I suspect that there will be times
when I only use gas on a K, but I plan on using charcoal most of the time.

Matthew

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Brick wrote:


Ya all might note that TFM® cooked over a turkey fryer burner
for a spell before he switched to fire IIRC. I doubt his 'Q' is a
great deal better now, but he might be having more fun cooking
it.


IIRC, TFM® even posted a picture of his turkey fryer in operation with
two jerry cans of gasoline conveniently nearby:-)

Don't knock using gas for a smoker. I've pretty much converted to using
gas only to fire the ECBX2 and it does make some excellent Q. The WSM
will not be converted to gas since using it is nearly as effortless. I
did get the gas option for my two Kamado cookers and I ordered 1500# of
charcoal to be delivered with them. I suspect that there will be times
when I only use gas on a K, but I plan on using charcoal most of the time.

Matthew

I bet after a couple of tries, you'll only use the gas for lighting and getting
the ceramic mass up to cooking temperature quickly. It works, but not well
enough for *me* to leave unattended for more than a minute or two.

BOB
a quick pizza comes to mind

On 3-Dec-2004, "Matthew L. Martin" wrote:

Brick wrote:


Ya all might note that TFM® cooked over a turkey fryer burner
for a spell before he switched to fire IIRC. I doubt his 'Q' is a
great deal better now, but he might be having more fun cooking
it.


IIRC, TFM® even posted a picture of his turkey fryer in operation with
two jerry cans of gasoline conveniently nearby:-)

I remember that thread. As I remember, we got quite a bit of mileage out
of it on top of the fact that it was TFM® that called our attention to it in the
first place. I was just glad that it wasn't me that did something that dumb,
(that time). Brick


Don't knock using gas for a smoker. I've pretty much converted to using
gas only to fire the ECBX2 and it does make some excellent Q. The WSM
will not be converted to gas since using it is nearly as effortless. I
did get the gas option for my two Kamado cookers and I ordered 1500# of
charcoal to be delivered with them. I suspect that there will be times
when I only use gas on a K, but I plan on using charcoal most of the time.

Matthew



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On 3-Dec-2004, "Matthew L. Martin" wrote:

Brick wrote:


Ya all might note that TFM® cooked over a turkey fryer burner
for a spell before he switched to fire IIRC. I doubt his 'Q' is a
great deal better now, but he might be having more fun cooking
it.


IIRC, TFM® even posted a picture of his turkey fryer in operation with
two jerry cans of gasoline conveniently nearby:-)

I remember that thread. As I remember, we got quite a bit of mileage out
of it on top of the fact that it was TFM® that called our attention to it in the
first place. I was just glad that it wasn't me that did something that dumb,
(that time). Brick


Don't knock using gas for a smoker. I've pretty much converted to using
gas only to fire the ECBX2 and it does make some excellent Q. The WSM
will not be converted to gas since using it is nearly as effortless. I
did get the gas option for my two Kamado cookers and I ordered 1500# of
charcoal to be delivered with them. I suspect that there will be times
when I only use gas on a K, but I plan on using charcoal most of the time.

Matthew



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