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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

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Old 22-11-2004, 10:06 PM
RW
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I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not so
good. I thought this was a pretty good general
guideline.http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/facts_smoking.pdf

Wayne in Phoenix


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Old 23-11-2004, 01:02 AM
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RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good. I thought this was a pretty good general
guideline.http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/facts_smoking.pdf

Wayne in Phoenix



Good general guideline if you like overcooked meat.

Pork doesn't need to be cooked over 130 if it's a loin chop. Those
guidelines guarantee dried out meat.

The only one that was reasonable was the poultry breast.

Everything else was only so high to avoid lawsuits.


How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.



TFM®


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Old 23-11-2004, 01:02 AM
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RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good. I thought this was a pretty good general
guideline.http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/facts_smoking.pdf

Wayne in Phoenix



Good general guideline if you like overcooked meat.

Pork doesn't need to be cooked over 130 if it's a loin chop. Those
guidelines guarantee dried out meat.

The only one that was reasonable was the poultry breast.

Everything else was only so high to avoid lawsuits.


How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.



TFM®


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Old 23-11-2004, 01:12 AM
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"RW" wrote in message ...
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not so
good. I thought this was a pretty good general
guideline.http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/facts_smoking.pdf

Wayne in Phoenix


Overall, very good. I disagree with the food temperatures. It was written
by lawyers that build in huge comepensation..


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Old 23-11-2004, 01:12 AM
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"RW" wrote in message ...
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not so
good. I thought this was a pretty good general
guideline.http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/facts_smoking.pdf

Wayne in Phoenix


Overall, very good. I disagree with the food temperatures. It was written
by lawyers that build in huge comepensation..


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Old 23-11-2004, 04:06 AM
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RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


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Old 23-11-2004, 04:47 AM
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Dave Bugg wrote:
RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


Dave, you know good and well who (what?) he's talking about. For example, one
do-do bird says that he brines in his garage (or back porch, I ferget) and he
doesn't live in the tundra, and the last time he posted that little tid-bit was
in June or July.
Then there's those other two...

BOB


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Old 23-11-2004, 04:47 AM
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Dave Bugg wrote:
RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


Dave, you know good and well who (what?) he's talking about. For example, one
do-do bird says that he brines in his garage (or back porch, I ferget) and he
doesn't live in the tundra, and the last time he posted that little tid-bit was
in June or July.
Then there's those other two...

BOB


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Old 23-11-2004, 05:55 AM
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"TFM®" wrote:
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How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.


TFM®, I particularly like your temperatures for beef. Blood rare!

So are ya turnin' Kili into a cavewoman? ;~)

--
Nick, Cogito, ergo armatum sum


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Old 23-11-2004, 12:36 PM
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wrote in message
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"TFM®" wrote:
[]
How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.


TFM®, I particularly like your temperatures for beef. Blood rare!

So are ya turnin' Kili into a cavewoman? ;~)

--


Nick, I've always liked my beef rare as well. If it's brown or grey, take
it away! If it's blood red, get me fed!

kili


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Old 23-11-2004, 12:37 PM
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" BOB" wrote in message
.. .
Dave Bugg wrote:
RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


Dave, you know good and well who (what?) he's talking about. For

example, one
do-do bird says that he brines in his garage (or back porch, I ferget) and

he
doesn't live in the tundra, and the last time he posted that little

tid-bit was
in June or July.
Then there's those other two...

BOB



And we *know* who you're talkin' about........

kili


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Old 23-11-2004, 12:37 PM
kilikini
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" BOB" wrote in message
.. .
Dave Bugg wrote:
RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


Dave, you know good and well who (what?) he's talking about. For

example, one
do-do bird says that he brines in his garage (or back porch, I ferget) and

he
doesn't live in the tundra, and the last time he posted that little

tid-bit was
in June or July.
Then there's those other two...

BOB



And we *know* who you're talkin' about........

kili


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Old 23-11-2004, 06:34 PM
Rob
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"TFM®" wrote in message news:26vod.64064 Good general guideline if you like overcooked meat.

Pork doesn't need to be cooked over 130 if it's a loin chop. Those
guidelines guarantee dried out meat.

The only one that was reasonable was the poultry breast.

Everything else was only so high to avoid lawsuits.


How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.



TFM®


TFM®-
Great except you left out brisket which I'd assume you cook until done?

Rob
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Old 23-11-2004, 06:34 PM
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"TFM®" wrote in message news:26vod.64064 Good general guideline if you like overcooked meat.

Pork doesn't need to be cooked over 130 if it's a loin chop. Those
guidelines guarantee dried out meat.

The only one that was reasonable was the poultry breast.

Everything else was only so high to avoid lawsuits.


How about a TFM® general guideline list??

Poultry - 165 in the breast.

Pork - 130 for loin or chops, until done for other (BBQ) cuts.

Beef - 120 for rare, 145 for well done.



TFM®


TFM®-
Great except you left out brisket which I'd assume you cook until done?

Rob
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Old 23-11-2004, 09:21 PM
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" BOB" wrote in message ...
Dave Bugg wrote:
RW wrote:
I've noticed a wide range of advice on the group, some good, some not
so good.


And what is the "not so good"?
--
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/


Dave, you know good and well who (what?) he's talking about. For example, one
do-do bird says that he brines in his garage (or back porch, I ferget) and he
doesn't live in the tundra, and the last time he posted that little tid-bit was
in June or July.


It's Kent, our neighbor here in northern California.
He lives somewhere over in Contra Costa County,
where it gets plenty hot in the summer time.
He brines in his garage.

-- Yip
 




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