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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

Lobster Apology



 
 
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:29 AM
Marc Butler
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Hi Guys,

Sorry for posting my silly question last week. I was reading through a book
on internet marketing as I did a few years ago, 1999, and posted a few
messages. After receiving such negative remarks, I remember why I haven't
done anything like that since 1999. And I will never do anything like it
again. I should always remember to think before doing.

I did hear back right away from alt.food.wine and I posted an apology on
that site and those guys seemed to go to town with their opinions of the
best wines to go with Lobster. There was one guy who blasted me for my
apology, saying I shouldn't apologize for anything, but if you want to read
that you can go to alt.food.wine.

I BBQ my tails with a little lemon and butter, but not too much butter or I
get a lot of flare ups.

best regards,

Marc Butler
Lobster Direct
www.lobsterdirect.com



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Old 05-10-2004, 02:04 AM
Dana H. Myers
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Marc Butler wrote:

I BBQ my tails with a little lemon and butter, but not too much butter or I
get a lot of flare ups.


I'll bet a quarter you're actually *grilling* those lobster tails,
not BBQing them...

3.1 Our definition

--------------------

[Just what is barbecue?]

Ed Pawlowski--

There are many interpretations of the term 'barbecue' in the world. Some people use it to describe a social gathering and cooking outdoors. Others use it to describe grilling food. For our purpose here, we are using the term to describe meat, slow-cooked, using wood smoke to add flavor. There is equipment designed just for this type of cooking.

Barbecuing is not grilling. Grilling is cooking over direct heat, usually a hot fire for a short time. Barbecuing is cooking by using indirect heat or low-level direct radiant heat at lower temperatures and longer cooking times. The distinction between barbecuing and grilling is the heat level and the intensity of the radiant heat. It is the smoke from the burning wood that gives barbecue its unique and delicious flavor.


(From http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/toc.html)

Dana
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Old 05-10-2004, 04:17 PM
Marc Butler
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you're right,

I have a propane BBQ that I use and home, but I have a charcoal BBQ at the
cottage.


marc


"Dana H. Myers" wrote in message
...
Marc Butler wrote:

I BBQ my tails with a little lemon and butter, but not too much butter

or I
get a lot of flare ups.


I'll bet a quarter you're actually *grilling* those lobster tails,
not BBQing them...

3.1 Our definition

--------------------

[Just what is barbecue?]

Ed Pawlowski--

There are many interpretations of the term 'barbecue' in the world. Some

people use it to describe a social gathering and cooking outdoors. Others
use it to describe grilling food. For our purpose here, we are using the
term to describe meat, slow-cooked, using wood smoke to add flavor. There is
equipment designed just for this type of cooking.

Barbecuing is not grilling. Grilling is cooking over direct heat,

usually a hot fire for a short time. Barbecuing is cooking by using indirect
heat or low-level direct radiant heat at lower temperatures and longer
cooking times. The distinction between barbecuing and grilling is the heat
level and the intensity of the radiant heat. It is the smoke from the
burning wood that gives barbecue its unique and delicious flavor.

(From http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/toc.html)

Dana



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Old 05-10-2004, 04:54 PM
Dave Bugg
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Marc Butler wrote:

I have a propane BBQ that I use and home, but I have a charcoal BBQ
at the cottage.


Nope, you have a propane GRILL you use at home, and a charcoal GRILL that
you use at the cottage. BBQ is meat, not a piece of equipment.


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Old 05-10-2004, 06:03 PM
Nathan Lau
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Marc Butler wrote:
Hi Guys,

Sorry for posting my silly question last week. I was reading through a book
on internet marketing as I did a few years ago, 1999, and posted a few
messages. After receiving such negative remarks, I remember why I haven't
done anything like that since 1999. And I will never do anything like it
again. I should always remember to think before doing.


Marc, toss out that internet marketing book and get into the 21st
century. While you were running your lobster shipping business, the
rules about internet marketing have changed. However, one thing hasn't
changed: honesty is *still* the best policy.

best regards,

Marc Butler
Lobster Direct
www.lobsterdirect.com


See now, this is a more appropriate way to advertise your site.

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Old 05-10-2004, 06:03 PM
Nathan Lau
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Marc Butler wrote:
Hi Guys,

Sorry for posting my silly question last week. I was reading through a book
on internet marketing as I did a few years ago, 1999, and posted a few
messages. After receiving such negative remarks, I remember why I haven't
done anything like that since 1999. And I will never do anything like it
again. I should always remember to think before doing.


Marc, toss out that internet marketing book and get into the 21st
century. While you were running your lobster shipping business, the
rules about internet marketing have changed. However, one thing hasn't
changed: honesty is *still* the best policy.

best regards,

Marc Butler
Lobster Direct
www.lobsterdirect.com


See now, this is a more appropriate way to advertise your site.

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Old 05-10-2004, 06:07 PM
Michael
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"Dave Bugg" deebuggatcharterdotnet wrote in message
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Marc Butler wrote:

I have a propane BBQ that I use and home, but I have a charcoal BBQ
at the cottage.


Nope, you have a propane GRILL you use at home, and a charcoal GRILL that
you use at the cottage. BBQ is meat, not a piece of equipment.



Now Dave I hate to correct you but BBQ is pork and it is also a verb (at
least in NC). IE, I BBQ, therefore I am.

Grilling is also a verb and they do not mean the same thing.

:-)


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Old 05-10-2004, 06:07 PM
Michael
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"Dave Bugg" deebuggatcharterdotnet wrote in message
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Marc Butler wrote:

I have a propane BBQ that I use and home, but I have a charcoal BBQ
at the cottage.


Nope, you have a propane GRILL you use at home, and a charcoal GRILL that
you use at the cottage. BBQ is meat, not a piece of equipment.



Now Dave I hate to correct you but BBQ is pork and it is also a verb (at
least in NC). IE, I BBQ, therefore I am.

Grilling is also a verb and they do not mean the same thing.

:-)


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Old 05-10-2004, 07:58 PM
Kevin S. Wilson
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:03:35 GMT, Nathan Lau
wrote:

While you were running your lobster shipping business, the
rules about internet marketing have changed.


When was it ever okay to spam Usenet with fictitious posts aimed at
driving traffic to your web site?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:14 PM
Steve Calvin
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Michael wrote:

"Dave Bugg" deebuggatcharterdotnet wrote in message
...
=20
Marc Butler wrote:


I have a propane BBQ that I use and home, but I have a charcoal BBQ
at the cottage.


Nope, you have a propane GRILL you use at home, and a charcoal GRILL th=

at
you use at the cottage. BBQ is meat, not a piece of equipment.


=20
=20
Now Dave I hate to correct you but BBQ is pork and it is also a verb (a=

t
least in NC). IE, I BBQ, therefore I am.
=20
Grilling is also a verb and they do not mean the same thing.
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:-)
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Well... not to "split hairs" but according to Websters, no mention of=20
just pork.

Noun:

Main Entry: barbecue
Variant(s): also bar=B7be=B7que
Function: noun
Etymology: American Spanish barbacoa framework for supporting meat=20
over a fire, probably from Taino
1 : a large animal (as a steer) roasted whole or split over an open=20
fire or a fire in a pit; also : smaller pieces of barbecued meat
2 : a social gathering especially in the open air at which barbecued=20
food is eaten
3 : an often portable fireplace over which meat and fish are roasted

Verb:

Main Entry: bar=B7be=B7cue
Pronunciation: 'b=E4r-bi-"ky=FC
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -cued; -cu=B7ing
1 : to roast or broil on a rack over hot coals or on a revolving spit=20
before or over a source of heat
2 : to cook in a highly seasoned vinegar sauce
- bar=B7be=B7cu=B7er noun



--=20
Steve

Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake
when you make it again.


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Old 05-10-2004, 08:21 PM
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:14:27 -0400, Steve Calvin
wrote:

Michael wrote:

snip

Tune in tomorrow, folks, for another exciting episode of "Quibbling
Over Semantics," followed by the season finale of "My Dic is Bigger
than Your Dic."

Do we really have to have this same tired discussion every time
someone uses BBQ as a verb or to refer to a piece of equipment or to a
gathering of people?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:29 PM
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:14:27 -0400 Steve Calvin
wrote:

Well... not to "split hairs" but according to Websters, no mention of
just pork.


Language is a living thing and is constantly changing and evolving. The
sheer usage of a term may drive its definition, no matter the 'correctness'
of it. Take for example the word "calorie". Everyone in the US refers to a
2000 calorie diet, but in reality it is a 2,000,000 calorie diet. The
difference? The food calories we all use are really kcals, 1 Calorie (note
capped 'c') = 1000 calories. So we go around calling a kcal a calorie but
have it all wrong. No matter, the sheer volume of usage drives the
definition.

Another example, 'steam'. Steam by definition is gaseous water. Steam is
clear and colorless. That white billowing stuff you see is not steam but
condensed gaseous water, 'water vapor'. True steam is under most condition
very very hot and about the only time anyone really is observing it to the
naked eye is say near the exit end of a teapot spout that contains boiling
water. The first cm or so will be gaseous water, the rest just water vapor.
So even though this usage is obviously incorrect by its sheer commonplace
presence the white billowy stuff is, in the vernacular, 'steam'.

I suspect that the word or term 'bbq' is following the same course. Massive
ignorance in common usage can turn the denotation of the word.
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:38 PM
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"Steve Calvin" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:

Now Dave I hate to correct you but BBQ is pork
:-)


Well... not to "split hairs" but according to Websters, no mention of
just pork.

Well I've never seen anything but pork in Bridge's, Stamey's or Allen &
Sons.

Maybe I shouldn't have used Webster's to get the chimney started last
weekend.


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Old 05-10-2004, 08:41 PM
Michael
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:14:27 -0400, Steve Calvin
wrote:

Michael wrote:

snip

Tune in tomorrow, folks, for another exciting episode of "Quibbling
Over Semantics," followed by the season finale of "My Dic is Bigger
than Your Dic."


What better to quibble over? Save the argueing for the important stuff.

PS mine is bigger than yours.


Do we really have to have this same tired discussion every time
someone uses BBQ as a verb or to refer to a piece of equipment or to a
gathering of people?


Yes.

snip


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Old 05-10-2004, 08:54 PM
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
Tune in tomorrow, folks, for another exciting episode of "Quibbling
Over Semantics," followed by the season finale of "My Dic is Bigger
than Your Dic."


We're sorry, but "My Dic" won't be seen this week. Instead, we bring you a
special edition of "My Candidate is Better Than Your Candidate".


 




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