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I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent
neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" |
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Louis Cohen wrote: I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks Wild birds are very difficult to keep moist, even if you brine them. I've cooked many a pheasant and the only ways I've found that result in moist meat a 1. Remove the meat, cut into chunks, saute quickly with garlic and oil over high heat and serve over pasta or rice (you can make a garlic cream sauce, if you like). 2. Stew the birds 3. Cut up and grill, then brush with your fave bbq sauce. You can smoke them, if you like, but they're going to be quite dry. -- Stan |
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Louis Cohen wrote: I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks Wild birds are very difficult to keep moist, even if you brine them. I've cooked many a pheasant and the only ways I've found that result in moist meat a 1. Remove the meat, cut into chunks, saute quickly with garlic and oil over high heat and serve over pasta or rice (you can make a garlic cream sauce, if you like). 2. Stew the birds 3. Cut up and grill, then brush with your fave bbq sauce. You can smoke them, if you like, but they're going to be quite dry. -- Stan |
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Dog3 wrote:
Deathbed statement... "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d. December 12, 1968 That sig caught my eye. Nobody gave her what she wanted, did they? She was dying and all anybody around her did was write her words down on a scrap of paper. "Damn her wishes, we'll record what she said for posterity." Did she get a shot or a pill? Does anybody know? ("shot" referring to a shot of liquor, not a medicinal shot.) |
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Dog3 wrote:
Deathbed statement... "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d. December 12, 1968 That sig caught my eye. Nobody gave her what she wanted, did they? She was dying and all anybody around her did was write her words down on a scrap of paper. "Damn her wishes, we'll record what she said for posterity." Did she get a shot or a pill? Does anybody know? ("shot" referring to a shot of liquor, not a medicinal shot.) |
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"Louis Cohen" wrote in message ... I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---- Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" This is the simplest way to keep 'em from being too dry; (as well as your favorite brine, with a few sprigs of rosemary added) 1 Pheasant Salt and pepper Butter 4 Cloves fresh garlic, minced 1 Chopped onion Salt and pepper pheasant inside and out. Rub butter on outside of pheasant and add garlic, onion and a little butter to cavity of bird. Put bird in a brown bag and tie end. Set on cookie sheet and bake 1 1/2 hours at 350 degrees. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On 2004-07-15, Louis Cohen wrote:
My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? I know this is bubbu-Q blaspheme, but I recommend moist cooking. Even a raised pheasant is fast muscle fiber. That means tough/lean breast meat. Your best bet is a braise or fricassee. My fave is to braise in a mushroom espagnole sauce. Yum! nb |
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"Louis Cohen" wrote in message ... I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250$B!(B or roasted at 375-400$B!(B? Any special handling to keep it moist? Louis, I smoked a pheasant (with oak) in the spring and still have another in the freezer. I brined mine for 2 days and then allowed it to dry. I (carefully) teased the skin away from the meat and laid strips of fatty bacon between the skin and the meat. I smoked it for approx 3 hours at 250-275 and it kept relatively moist due to the fat rendering from the bacon. It's also very gamey, and watch out for lead shot when eating. The liver was particularly enjoyable. Graeme |
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Thanks, everybody for your suggestions.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" "Louis Cohen" wrote in message ... I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---- Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" |
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If you want to do something different, you can try what I did a couple of
years ago. Take a chicken gumbo recipe and substitue the pheasant. Serve this with your next bbq. If you smoke a brisket, and start the crock for the gumbo at the same time you start the fire in your firebox, they will finish about the same time. I have done this with Pheasant and Chuckar and other than needing a touch of extra butter or olive oil, they turn out lovely. Paul "Louis Cohen" wrote in message ... I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---- Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" |
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"Graeme...in London" wrote in message ... Louis, I smoked a pheasant (with oak) in the spring and still have another in the freezer. I brined mine for 2 days and then allowed it to dry. I (carefully) teased the skin away from the meat and laid strips of fatty bacon between the skin and the meat. I smoked it for approx 3 hours at 250-275 and it kept relatively moist due to the fat rendering from the bacon. It's also very gamey, and watch out for lead shot when eating. The liver was particularly enjoyable. Graeme Louis: I'm sort of with Graeme on this one, but I would use herbed butter in place of the bacon. Also, you might think about using alder as a smoking wood. James Emanuel |
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Louis Cohen wrote:
I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Thanks Want it frutie? Stuff it with plums and just a few cloves. Make a plum sauce to serve with it. The key here IMHO is to stuff the thing with something that will keep it moist during smoaking. Crack the ribs using a sharp knife from the inside and scrape till meat is exposed on the inside, then stuff with anything you may like that will keep it moist but add the flavor that you want. Smoke with any fruit wood. Another thing to try is to stuff it with chicken thighs with the skin on? That should do it too. It in fact does do it. I have done it. Yummy! Use Alder. |
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Louis Cohen wrote:
I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excell= ent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? =20 My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250=B0 or roasted at 375-400=B0? Any special handling to= keep it moist? Start with the idea that they're *extremely* lean. Moistness comes=20 from 3 different sources; water-based juices, fat and our saliva while=20 eating. You can affect 2 of them with culinary technique. Brining is a good idea, but you might also want to think about barding=20 and larding the birds. Larding is making small holes in the meat and=20 putting fat (bacon, suet, blanched salt pork, goose fat, etc.) in the=20 holes. It can be as simple as making several small holes and pushing=20 little pieces of fat into them or, more effectively, to push strips of=20 bacon through the breast meat. Larding is draping the bird with slices=20 or strips of fat. Smoke it as cool as you can (but still over 160=B0F) or roast at low=20 temps (between 225=B0F to 275=B0F) to keep moisture in the meat. The=20 degree of doneness will determine the water-moistness, so the=20 combination of brining to add extra water and low-temp roasting to=20 evaporate less juice will give you a more moist and tender bird.=20 Cooking at 225=B0F will give you virtually no pan juices; they're all=20 still in the meat. Before cooking the bird, take it out of the brine and either suspend=20 it or put it on a rack - in the fridge - to let the surface dry and=20 form a skin or "pellicle" to make it cook more cleanly. Let the bird=20 sit on your counter until it comes close to room temp before cooking.=20 It'll help the bird cook more quickly and because the meat will come=20 to temp more quickly and evenly, less moisture loss. A variation on larding is to rub the birds with a generous portion of=20 mayonnaise. It's an old chef's trick for moistening the skin and=20 helping it to brown more evenly. A further way to keep it more moist is to brine, bard, rub with mayo=20 (or goose fat) and dredge in seasoned breadcrumbs. The crumbs provide=20 a further buffer against moisture loss and another opportunity for=20 subtle seasoning. Pastorio |
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Louis Cohen wrote:
I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excell= ent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? =20 My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250=B0 or roasted at 375-400=B0? Any special handling to= keep it moist? Start with the idea that they're *extremely* lean. Moistness comes=20 from 3 different sources; water-based juices, fat and our saliva while=20 eating. You can affect 2 of them with culinary technique. Brining is a good idea, but you might also want to think about barding=20 and larding the birds. Larding is making small holes in the meat and=20 putting fat (bacon, suet, blanched salt pork, goose fat, etc.) in the=20 holes. It can be as simple as making several small holes and pushing=20 little pieces of fat into them or, more effectively, to push strips of=20 bacon through the breast meat. Larding is draping the bird with slices=20 or strips of fat. Smoke it as cool as you can (but still over 160=B0F) or roast at low=20 temps (between 225=B0F to 275=B0F) to keep moisture in the meat. The=20 degree of doneness will determine the water-moistness, so the=20 combination of brining to add extra water and low-temp roasting to=20 evaporate less juice will give you a more moist and tender bird.=20 Cooking at 225=B0F will give you virtually no pan juices; they're all=20 still in the meat. Before cooking the bird, take it out of the brine and either suspend=20 it or put it on a rack - in the fridge - to let the surface dry and=20 form a skin or "pellicle" to make it cook more cleanly. Let the bird=20 sit on your counter until it comes close to room temp before cooking.=20 It'll help the bird cook more quickly and because the meat will come=20 to temp more quickly and evenly, less moisture loss. A variation on larding is to rub the birds with a generous portion of=20 mayonnaise. It's an old chef's trick for moistening the skin and=20 helping it to brown more evenly. A further way to keep it more moist is to brine, bard, rub with mayo=20 (or goose fat) and dredge in seasoned breadcrumbs. The crumbs provide=20 a further buffer against moisture loss and another opportunity for=20 subtle seasoning. Pastorio |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:19:15 -0400, "Bob (this one)"
wrote: Louis Cohen wrote: I just got 4 frozen pheasants (and a load of birch wood) from my excellent neighbor. Any suggestions for cooking the birds? My hunch is that a brine for this lean poultry would be in order. But smoked at 220-250° or roasted at 375-400°? Any special handling to keep it moist? Start with the idea that they're *extremely* lean. Moistness comes from 3 different sources; water-based juices, fat and our saliva while eating. You can affect 2 of them with culinary technique. Brining is a good idea, but you might also want to think about barding and larding the birds. Larding is making small holes in the meat and putting fat (bacon, suet, blanched salt pork, goose fat, etc.) in the holes. It can be as simple as making several small holes and pushing little pieces of fat into them or, more effectively, to push strips of bacon through the breast meat. Larding is draping the bird with slices or strips of fat. Smoke it as cool as you can (but still over 160°F) or roast at low temps (between 225°F to 275°F) to keep moisture in the meat. The degree of doneness will determine the water-moistness, so the combination of brining to add extra water and low-temp roasting to evaporate less juice will give you a more moist and tender bird. Cooking at 225°F will give you virtually no pan juices; they're all still in the meat. Before cooking the bird, take it out of the brine and either suspend it or put it on a rack - in the fridge - to let the surface dry and form a skin or "pellicle" to make it cook more cleanly. Let the bird sit on your counter until it comes close to room temp before cooking. It'll help the bird cook more quickly and because the meat will come to temp more quickly and evenly, less moisture loss. A variation on larding is to rub the birds with a generous portion of mayonnaise. It's an old chef's trick for moistening the skin and helping it to brown more evenly. A further way to keep it more moist is to brine, bard, rub with mayo (or goose fat) and dredge in seasoned breadcrumbs. The crumbs provide a further buffer against moisture loss and another opportunity for subtle seasoning. Pastorio I once had to deal with farm-raised free-range pheasants and I was scared to death because everyone said they are dry when roasted. I eventually cooked them in an oven bag with very fatty rashers of bacon over them. They were delicious and were NOT dry at all. |
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